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Old 25 August 2021, 04:11 PM   #31
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The "S"es in STAINLESS look off by quite a bit.

The top half of the "S" is much bigger than the bottom half. Its way out of proportion to what you would normally expect to see.
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Old 25 August 2021, 07:45 PM   #32
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Soo again have you contacted the original seller and who was it???? Time to put the cards on the table….the watch is BS
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Old 25 August 2021, 10:13 PM   #33
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This is why I suggested for full serial, ref, and caseback stamps. The fonts are suspect and sloppy in the wrong places - perfect fonts are suspect too. Having the full serial can show additional mistakes on the engraving.

Without opening a can of worms, I have seen a handful of suspect and likely fake cases on a major site or two.
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Old 26 August 2021, 04:08 AM   #34
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Serial doesn’t match up

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This is why I suggested for full serial, ref, and caseback stamps. The fonts are suspect and sloppy in the wrong places - perfect fonts are suspect too. Having the full serial can show additional mistakes on the engraving.

Without opening a can of worms, I have seen a handful of suspect and likely fake cases on a major site or two.

I could really use help evaluating my engravings, but it is really hard to take close up pics.
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Old 26 August 2021, 04:45 AM   #35
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Get a Moment lens and case for your smart phone and a lot of trial and error ; )

Zoom and remote shutter also help
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Old 26 August 2021, 06:31 AM   #36
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Here’s another 1680 2.9 mil serial:




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Old 26 August 2021, 07:08 AM   #37
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The "S"es in STAINLESS look off by quite a bit.

The top half of the "S" is much bigger than the bottom half. Its way out of proportion to what you would normally expect to see.

That’s what I noticed too.


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Old 26 August 2021, 08:47 AM   #38
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I could really use help evaluating my engravings, but it is really hard to take close up pics.
From what I can see they look alright.

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Old 26 August 2021, 08:54 AM   #39
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Here’s another 1680 2.9 mil serial:


These watches were made in batches so within the same batch, the engravings should look more or less the same. Since they were engraved by hand, there can be slight deviations but these are usually within certain tolerances.

You cannot compare 2.4 to 2.9 mil. Different story.


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I could really use help evaluating my engravings, but it is really hard to take close up pics.
sorry to go off topic but you found a 1680! good one!
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I could really use help evaluating my engravings, but it is really hard to take close up pics.

So hard to say anything definitive due to the resolution of those photos.

I tried to sharpen them up a bit…





Of course, it may go without saying, but…
Engravings are not the only thing to evaluate if you have concerns about your watch.


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Old 26 August 2021, 09:04 AM   #42
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These watches were made in batches so within the same batch, the engravings should look more or less the same. Since they were engraved by hand, there can be slight deviations but these are usually within certain tolerances.

You cannot compare 2.4 to 2.9 mil. Different story.


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Just saying a general thanks for sharing your experience.

I have often used your website discussion on vintage Daytona case engravings and the two types of fonts used in the engraving days.


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Old 26 August 2021, 09:06 AM   #43
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So hard to say anything definitive due to the resolution of those photos.

I tried to sharpen them up a bit…





Of course, it may go without saying, but…
Engravings are not the only thing to evaluate if you have concerns about your watch.


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thanks

The dial and bracelet look good btw, I'll have the movement checked out at Ridley.
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Old 26 August 2021, 09:16 AM   #44
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These watches were made in batches so within the same batch, the engravings should look more or less the same. Since they were engraved by hand, there can be slight deviations but these are usually within certain tolerances.

You cannot compare 2.4 to 2.9 mil. Different story.


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That’s correct. I was posting to provide another data point, and to show another pointed “A” example.


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Old 26 August 2021, 09:37 AM   #45
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Mine is from 79 and the A looks flat though it is barely visible in the pic
Macro lense is on the way!
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These watches were made in batches so within the same batch, the engravings should look more or less the same. Since they were engraved by hand, there can be slight deviations but these are usually within certain tolerances.

You cannot compare 2.4 to 2.9 mil. Different story.


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Obviously I wanna also thank you for your participation, I'm also a follower!

For what I know the engraving where done by hand using a Pantograph machine, I believe they where following a template, so it could be a change of the template during those year and the A went from flat to pointy
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sorry to go off topic but you found a 1680! good one!
Thanks - it looks like a nice one.

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