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Old 18 December 2018, 06:27 AM   #91
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I currently have 6 Rolex, and I want to be able to buy one when I want from an AD, not some grey dealers where the source of the watch could be questionable.

How's that difficult to understand?

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Old 18 December 2018, 06:34 AM   #92
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For all those disenchanted with Rolex these days,

imagine a big increase in availability:

* all ADs pretty much have full stock
* you buy what you want, when you want!
* no multi-purchase required
* your watch loses 30-60% of MSRP after purchase
* secondary market corrects by 30-60%
* so, Rolex would be like pretty much all other brands

Would that be better?
it would just be something different to complain about. Cant win either way.

I do think if that happened lot of members here would leave as the current situation isnt about watches at all so maybe its better after all and if they stayed the posts would be about where to get the biggest discounts again which is a large part of why we are where we are today. Thats why secondary dealers got so big in the first place as they were busy buying everyones watches for them in the biggest discount days and no one even knows their AD anymore because they haven't used them in a decade.
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Old 18 December 2018, 06:39 AM   #93
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Yes, I’d be fine since I bought my watches for myself and I’m not a douche
I don’t care for a few grands buying-selling watches, it’s so pathetic


Absolutely, the same here! Well said.


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Old 18 December 2018, 07:20 AM   #94
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TBH I admit I would be a little less interested in a Rolex if that were the case.

Even though I have no plans of selling a watch, it's all about the perceived value.

I would still be interested, but only if I could buy at a discount. I'd still love to have a gold or platinum rolex, and those don't hold value either.

Generally though, watches are pretty small dollars in the big scheme of things, even a stainless rolex. Most folks aren't buying these with the expectation to sell or trade in the future.
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Old 21 December 2018, 05:35 PM   #95
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if a brand new BLNR MSRP is GBP7k whilst the grey (fair mkt value) is 10k, why would Rolex wanna leave that 42% upside on the table? Is it becoz they wanna keep all the parties (ADs, grey mkt operator) happy? and at the same time create a "shortage premium" factor amongst the end users...
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Old 21 December 2018, 05:53 PM   #96
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This thread will go in the same direction as all the other threads on this subject.

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Old 21 December 2018, 06:36 PM   #97
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Even omegas hold good value, for example my speedy reduced is worth £2k (received offers) having paid about the same for it years ago. Seamaster new is 3k 1/2yrs old 2.5k and it subsequently doesnt decrease much.

All Rolex has done is put people off and brand and those people switching to Tudor or Omega will most likely not return
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Old 21 December 2018, 07:15 PM   #98
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I’d love it because I’d be buying second hand the watches I want for 30-60% off MSRP.


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Old 21 December 2018, 07:15 PM   #99
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I think it would have been excellent.
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Old 21 December 2018, 09:29 PM   #100
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if a brand new BLNR MSRP is GBP7k whilst the grey (fair mkt value) is 10k, why would Rolex wanna leave that 42% upside on the table? Is it becoz they wanna keep all the parties (ADs, grey mkt operator) happy? and at the same time create a "shortage premium" factor amongst the end users...


All correct answers. Spot on. And the sheeple keep buying...


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Old 24 December 2018, 10:06 PM   #101
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Why would you buy a 10k watch if you would worry about its value down the road? You should better spend that money on other, more important things in life then.


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Old 24 December 2018, 10:52 PM   #102
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For all those disenchanted with Rolex these days,

imagine a big increase in availability:


* your watch loses 30-60% of MSRP after purchase


Would that be better?
Buy used! Cars lose value when you drive them off the lot...you either accept that or buy used.
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Old 24 December 2018, 11:10 PM   #103
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For someone who never buys from an AD, it's a better scenario. The gray dealer has plenty of watches available and they are not horribly overpriced.
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Old 25 December 2018, 12:45 AM   #104
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Sorry to tell you this

But this is the way luxury sales are working now a days, and it is working wonders for this brands

ROLEX (ss models)
PORSCHE (the gt range)
HERMES (for the lady’s)

Exclusivity is the new thing now a days

It is not always fun, but when you atain that special piece, it feels so rewarding
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Old 25 December 2018, 12:58 AM   #105
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No but it use to be best when you’d buy a sub/gmt for 9k and could resell it for 8k. That’s the equilibrium I like.
Exactly, it wasn't as extreme as OP claimed to be.
It was great just few years ago when you can get most models from AD, some with a bit of wait but that's no big deal.
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