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lappy4711 · 8 May 2018, 05:59 AM

Hi!
Just received a Datejust that I won at an auction. There was very little info on the watch....but I took a chance. I think it is from 1966.
I have two questions: what is the model number (1601, 1603 etc) and what is the hour markers called (and are they rare in any way)?
Thankful for any help!

glocati · 8 May 2018, 06:18 AM

Looks like a nice Datejust. With the "pie-pan" dial, it is certainly a 160X series. As it sits now with the fluted bezel, it is a 1601. Not uncommon for the bezel to be swapped, so until you check the case markings, you won't know for sure. Nice riveted bracelet as well, although it's a stainless bracelet and it should be two-tone. Looks period correct for late 60's/early 70's.

Remove the bracelet and you can see model and serial numbers between the lugs.

I have seen those hour markers referred to a as "coffin" hour markers. Although not super rare, they are not the common stick markers...

lappy4711 · 8 May 2018, 06:47 AM

The serial number indicates 1966, the bracelet is marked 67 with a 1 over so January 1967 for the bracelet I think. Couldn't see a model number between the lugs, maybe I missed it somehow. Thanks for the info!

alwayshere · 8 May 2018, 07:55 AM

Check again. No model number on lugs is a problem

jvmartin · 8 May 2018, 08:28 AM

The model number often gets VERY faint on 1601 models due to rub from the bracelet/spring bar... use a loupe or magnifying glass... it should be there... I would say it is more a problem when the serial is missing, then the model number... dial is standard for that vintage... nothing spectacular or rare...

Xyza0722 · 8 May 2018, 10:17 AM

Nice watch and nice find

Would you be able to take a photo of the endlinks and the model number?

Thanks

lappy4711 · 8 May 2018, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xyza0722

Nice watch and nice find

Would you be able to take a photo of the endlinks and the model number?

Thanks

I'll try when I get home from work.

s1im · 9 May 2018, 12:57 AM

I'd expect the bracelet to be incorrect rather than the bezel/crown/hands/batons.
Its rare(ish) to find that dial hand combo on a 1601 with white fluted bezel and s/s crown and s/s bracelet . you do get it but they tended to be from the middle east.

lappy4711 · 9 May 2018, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xyza0722

Nice watch and nice find

Would you be able to take a photo of the endlinks and the model number?

Thanks

Some images attaches! Enjoy!

lappy4711 · 9 May 2018, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by lappy4711

Some images attaches! Enjoy!

A few more

8 May 2018, 06:18 AM	#2
glocati "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Greg Location: Portland, Oregon Watch: 1675/3+16013 Posts: 538	Looks like a nice Datejust. With the "pie-pan" dial, it is certainly a 160X series. As it sits now with the fluted bezel, it is a 1601. Not uncommon for the bezel to be swapped, so until you check the case markings, you won't know for sure. Nice riveted bracelet as well, although it's a stainless bracelet and it should be two-tone. Looks period correct for late 60's/early 70's. Remove the bracelet and you can see model and serial numbers between the lugs. I have seen those hour markers referred to a as "coffin" hour markers. Although not super rare, they are not the common stick markers...

8 May 2018, 06:47 AM	#3
lappy4711 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 47	The serial number indicates 1966, the bracelet is marked 67 with a 1 over so January 1967 for the bracelet I think. Couldn't see a model number between the lugs, maybe I missed it somehow. Thanks for the info!

8 May 2018, 07:55 AM	#4
alwayshere "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Australia Posts: 1,511	Check again. No model number on lugs is a problem

8 May 2018, 08:28 AM	#5
jvmartin "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,349	The model number often gets VERY faint on 1601 models due to rub from the bracelet/spring bar... use a loupe or magnifying glass... it should be there... I would say it is more a problem when the serial is missing, then the model number... dial is standard for that vintage... nothing spectacular or rare...

8 May 2018, 10:17 AM	#6
Xyza0722 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Hong Kong Watch: Me go Posts: 400	Nice watch and nice find Would you be able to take a photo of the endlinks and the model number? Thanks

9 May 2018, 12:57 AM	#8
s1im "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: UK Watch: 116610ln Posts: 108	I'd expect the bracelet to be incorrect rather than the bezel/crown/hands/batons. Its rare(ish) to find that dial hand combo on a 1601 with white fluted bezel and s/s crown and s/s bracelet . you do get it but they tended to be from the middle east.

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