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El prosa · 25 May 2018, 12:15 AM

Hi,
I'm Nicola and I'm from Roma.
I'm looking for a vintage 16750. I found this GMT 16750, serial 627XXXX. I know with this pics are not enough to give an accurate opinion, but it's what I have right now.
I hope you'll help me to know, first of all, if dial and hands are ok. I'd also like to know if that big scratch close to "GMT" on the dial makes the watch lose lot of value.
Thanks a lot.

Cheutc · 25 May 2018, 03:09 AM

Personally I would want a clean dial, also depends on what price it is

dhknola · 25 May 2018, 03:21 AM

I am not an expert, but that dial wouldnt bother me as I like them showing some age :)

El prosa · 25 May 2018, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheutc

Personally I would want a clean dial, also depends on what price it is

Me too. I really like It. But it's a little expensive, so I don't want to risk a "fake" dial and so on...

statuskuo · 25 May 2018, 03:28 AM

big scratch going through text will hurt value. the dial itself looks genuine, along with the lume. the hands may have been color matched to match the lume (it looks surprisingly clean given how the rest of the lume aged).

personally, the dial looks quite worn to me and i would pass. if you're looking to hold on to this watch for awhile i would pay more for a cleaner dial. you'll regret trying to save a few dollars, esp if you need to resell it one day

lee fowler · 25 May 2018, 03:41 AM

I would pass on this one, the dial is too badly damaged I feel.

Kingface66 · 25 May 2018, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhknola

I am not an expert, but that dial wouldnt bother me as I like them showing some age :)

I love a dial that shows some age, as well. But, in this case, that looks more like deterioration/damage, not age.

Wahlberg · 25 May 2018, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingface66

I love a dial that shows some age, as well. But, in this case, that looks more like deterioration/damage, not age.

But if it belonged to someone well known (not a celebrity but for some heroic act) it would have been cool to have.

For example: What if it belonged to an astronaut who survived falling from space and he was wearing this.

GeorgeK · 25 May 2018, 04:04 AM

I would also like to see the part covered by the GMT hand, as there seems to be damage there as well.

Tom1675 · 25 May 2018, 04:22 AM

There are better examples out there for sure. That dial is too rugged and likely indicates some deeper issue(s).

El prosa · 25 May 2018, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by statuskuo

big scratch going through text will hurt value. the dial itself looks genuine, along with the lume. the hands may have been color matched to match the lume (it looks surprisingly clean given how the rest of the lume aged).

personally, the dial looks quite worn to me and i would pass. if you're looking to hold on to this watch for awhile i would pay more for a cleaner dial. you'll regret trying to save a few dollars, esp if you need to resell it one day

No, this is not cheap! It's about 10k! So I think it's better to leave It...

Kingface66 · 25 May 2018, 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wahlberg

But if it belonged to someone well known (not a celebrity but for some heroic act) it would have been cool to have.

For example: What if it belonged to an astronaut who survived falling from space and he was wearing this.

I understand where you're coming from, but that's not the case for me. The added value of a watch simply because it was owned buy a person of note doesn't really appeal to me. Especially, if it's a watch in a condition that would turn me off from buying it in the first place.

El prosa · 25 May 2018, 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom1675

There are better examples out there for sure. That dial is too rugged and likely indicates some deeper issue(s).

What do you think about the case? I know it's not the right pic, but I'd like to know if it seems overpolished or it's ok for its time.

El prosa · 25 May 2018, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheutc

Personally I would want a clean dial, also depends on what price it is

It's about 10k. Lot of money in this crazy speculation era.

lee fowler · 25 May 2018, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El prosa

What do you think about the case? I know it's not the right pic, but I'd like to know if it seems overpolished or it's ok for its time.

Looks like the crown guards have been polished but would need much better pics.

storm66 · 25 May 2018, 06:22 AM

How would the dial get a gouge like that?

NOPDK · 25 May 2018, 06:53 AM

The condition of the dial is a non-starter for me. I would take a big pass on this one.

El prosa · 25 May 2018, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by storm66

How would the dial get a gouge like that?

Yep. That's the question IMO too.

alwayshere · 25 May 2018, 10:45 AM

likely poor workmanship by a prior watchmaker. Its not circular so not done by loose / poorly fitted hands

El prosa · 25 May 2018, 10:43 PM

So, is this 16750 so bad in your opinion?

springer · 26 May 2018, 12:13 AM

What about that date wheel? Dial and or movement was probably dropped or damaged during a service.

Chunky · 26 May 2018, 01:06 AM

I would pass too, Something is up with that date wheel. I 've never seen it in that shade, and numerals look a litttle off. My opinion.

BobDyl · 26 May 2018, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wahlberg

For example: What if it belonged to an astronaut who survived falling from space and he was wearing this.

Made me laugh.

holdtime · 10 June 2018, 12:48 AM

No good for me .To dirty

rolstaff · 10 June 2018, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El prosa

So, is this 16750 so bad in your opinion?

Yes, it is...

Mik8yu · 12 June 2018, 12:06 PM

The Lume on the dial is so brownish in color does it look baked to anyone?

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25 May 2018, 03:41 AM	#6
lee fowler 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: UK Watch: GMT Posts: 2,507	I would pass on this one, the dial is too badly damaged I feel. __________________ Instagram: @lee1563

25 May 2018, 06:53 AM	#17
NOPDK "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Florida Posts: 598	No The condition of the dial is a non-starter for me. I would take a big pass on this one.

26 May 2018, 12:13 AM	#21
springer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,191	What about that date wheel? Dial and or movement was probably dropped or damaged during a service. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

26 May 2018, 01:06 AM	#22
Chunky "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Charles Location: Montreal, QC Watch: 1680 Red, 116710 Posts: 359	I would pass too, Something is up with that date wheel. I 've never seen it in that shade, and numerals look a litttle off. My opinion. __________________ 1972 1680 SUB 2018 116710 BLNR 2005 Citizen Skyhawk C651

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25 May 2018, 03:09 AM	#2
Cheutc "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Mars Posts: 152	Personally I would want a clean dial, also depends on what price it is

25 May 2018, 03:21 AM	#3
dhknola "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,153	I am not an expert, but that dial wouldnt bother me as I like them showing some age :)

25 May 2018, 03:28 AM	#5
statuskuo "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Caleb Location: San Francisco Posts: 49	big scratch going through text will hurt value. the dial itself looks genuine, along with the lume. the hands may have been color matched to match the lume (it looks surprisingly clean given how the rest of the lume aged). personally, the dial looks quite worn to me and i would pass. if you're looking to hold on to this watch for awhile i would pay more for a cleaner dial. you'll regret trying to save a few dollars, esp if you need to resell it one day

25 May 2018, 04:04 AM	#9
GeorgeK "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: The Alps Posts: 404	I would also like to see the part covered by the GMT hand, as there seems to be damage there as well.

25 May 2018, 04:22 AM	#10
Tom1675 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Tom Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,172	There are better examples out there for sure. That dial is too rugged and likely indicates some deeper issue(s).

25 May 2018, 06:22 AM	#16
storm66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: london Posts: 842	How would the dial get a gouge like that?

25 May 2018, 10:45 AM	#19
alwayshere "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Australia Posts: 1,511	likely poor workmanship by a prior watchmaker. Its not circular so not done by loose / poorly fitted hands

25 May 2018, 10:43 PM	#20
El prosa "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Real Name: Nicola Location: Roma Posts: 87	So, is this 16750 so bad in your opinion?

10 June 2018, 12:48 AM	#24
holdtime Banned Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Planet Earth. Posts: 582	No good for me .To dirty

12 June 2018, 12:06 PM	#26
Mik8yu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Hong kong Posts: 147	The Lume on the dial is so brownish in color does it look baked to anyone? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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