14060 or Fifty Eight

[Sglass]

I bought a 14060 earlier in the year but love the look of the Fifty eight. Having both feels pretty senseless. What are thoughts, should I trade in for the 58?

[SLS]

I would keep the Sub

[vintageguy]

Originally Posted by sls

i would keep the sub

+1

[watchmavan]

While this is a forum for both brands, Rolex dominates by some margin, hense most replies will say Sub.

So my 2 cents worth won't say either as a would be in the same position perhaps as you. The Sub imo is the last of the true Subs. After this model, we have the maxi-case, imo a rather ugly boxy looking case that detracts from the classic beauty of the watch. This alone is enough to keep a 14060/M.

The BB58 is a classical diver rather than being a classic. It's movement is superior to the 14060 and in most other areas, I believe it is superior to the 14060.

I walked into a store to buy the 14060M and walked out with an Explorer, I also picked up the 58 last month. Physicaly touching and handling gives you more than other people's thoughts can ever hope. I certainly wouldn't decide until handling both.


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[Etschell]

Originally Posted by Sglass

I bought a 14060 earlier in the year but love the look of the Fifty eight. Having both feels pretty senseless. What are thoughts, should I trade in for the 58?

i would not. what i would do is wait until basel 2018. we may see a bb 58 in color or gmt. you never know.

[MickCollins1916]

While the 58 isn’t plentiful at this point, they’re making more of them. The sub, notsomuch. Plus, it’s a great watch!

[Soarer]

This is something you have to decide for yourself. No point asking people. Generally their default reply will be Sub. I have a Sub and waiting for the call from my AD for BB58. If asked to choose one, i will not hesitate to go with BB58. I think BB58 is better value for money.

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[andrewjb88]

Originally Posted by Sglass

I bought a 14060 earlier in the year but love the look of the Fifty eight. Having both feels pretty senseless. What are thoughts, should I trade in for the 58?

I can totally understand this, I want a sub, but what I really want is a sub that looks like a 6538 "Sean Connery"

The BB 58 is the perfect modern 6538.

[Dompropat]

I would keep the Sub.

[doubleinfive]

I don't believe having both is senseless...

[173rdabn]

Why not have both? You have two wrists.

[Finslayer83]

Originally Posted by Sglass

I bought a 14060 earlier in the year but love the look of the Fifty eight. Having both feels pretty senseless. What are thoughts, should I trade in for the 58?

Add the 58 or wait to see what else they use the movement in. I'm hoping for a 40mm Pelagos style titanium optiond or a 58 sized version of the Harrod's special with the green bezel.

None of those will replace the sub.

Dude you have the last true sports / professional model Rolex made. Drilled lugs bro....come on.

Don't replace but add.

[HogwldFLTR]

I've been wearing my t<25 14060 for a couple of days now. The only time it surprised me was when I checked the time in the middle of the night and thought what a dim glow. I then realized what watch I was wearing and also noted that the glow wasn't the only dim thing. I still love the watch. So much nicer imho than my old 114060 (even with out the fancy clasp). I sure wouldn't trade it for the Tudor 58 under any circumstances.

[Texasjim]

I wish the 58 had holes. They are different enough, to justify getting both. Both are super cool!

[roosvelt]

Better movement in the tudor, come on ! The 14060 is the Classic sub that age will never dim.

[skippy1]

Keep the 14060 for now. Why?
-They aren't making any more, people love them and the value is steadily rising so you won't lose and probably will gain by keeping it.
-BB58 is a new model and you will pay a premium (right now) to get it.
-If you can wait a year or two, the value of your sub will probably increase, BB58 will probably decrease and some other new shinny watch of the moment may come out that you like more. Infatuation can fade faster than you expect when the next thing come along.

Good luck

[HL65]

14060

[Old Expat Beast]

I had a 14060m but I sold it because it looked a bit bland next to my 5513. I am planning to pick up a BB 58, though.

[watchmavan]

Originally Posted by roosvelt

Better movement in the tudor, come on ! The 14060 is the Classic sub that age will never dim.

MT calibre has everything the 3035 has plus more.

It has a full balance bridge.
Rolex does not
It has COSC
Rolex does not
It has 70 hour power reserve
Rolex does not
It has silicon hairsping
Rolex does not

Yes the 14060 is a classic example of the Submariner, but the 3035 calibre is inferior to the MT5402.

You'll need more than "Come on" to counter these facts.



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[1William]

Keep the Submariner and give the 58 a little time and it will be on the market pre-owned with a good discount and you could possibly add it. I find the 58 to be too small but it works for some.

[mailman]

If the 14060 is a 4 line then I'd keep it.

[watchmavan]

Originally Posted by mailman

If the 14060 is a 4 line then I'd keep it.

Then it's an M. Different movement. Closer to MT bit still inferior. The calibre only. The package is subjective.


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[Tan]

Sub for sure!

[brandrea]

I love the 58, in really like what they've done with this reference.

If at all possible I'd try to own both

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[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by brandrea

I love the 58, in really like what they've done with this reference.

If at all possible I'd try to own both

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Yeap.

[mailman]

Originally Posted by watchmavan

Then it's an M. Different movement. Closer to MT bit still inferior. The calibre only. The package is subjective.


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I'm aware. There are 2 liners that are M's also. Some people don't put the M at the end of the reference number.

[watchmavan]

Originally Posted by mailman

I'm aware. There are 2 liners that are M's also. Some people don't put the M at the end of the reference number.

Yep. Early M's had new calibre without COSC. Not too many of them.


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[torifile]

Originally Posted by watchmavan

MT calibre has everything the 3035 has plus more.

It has a full balance bridge.
Rolex does not
It has COSC
Rolex does not
It has 70 hour power reserve
Rolex does not
It has silicon hairsping
Rolex does not

Yes the 14060 is a classic example of the Submariner, but the 3035 calibre is inferior to the MT5402.

You'll need more than "Come on" to counter these facts.



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I thought we were better than just comparing specs. If it were purely about the technical data, we’d have left our silly mechanical watches behind a long time ago. “Speeds and feeds” is how we compare our computers, not our jewelry.

[Finslayer83]

Originally Posted by watchmavan

MT calibre has everything the 3035 has plus more.

It has a full balance bridge.
Rolex does not
It has COSC
Rolex does not
It has 70 hour power reserve
Rolex does not
It has silicon hairsping
Rolex does not

Yes the 14060 is a classic example of the Submariner, but the 3035 calibre is inferior to the MT5402.

You'll need more than "Come on" to counter these facts.



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Some do...

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by Sglass

I bought a 14060 earlier in the year but love the look of the Fifty eight. Having both feels pretty senseless. What are thoughts, should I trade in for the 58?

I would not trade but having owned a 14060, it is a classic watch.

The 58 with the better movement will be a great watch to own for the future.

I would try to own both if it were me.