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Ditch · 31 July 2012, 04:27 AM

The 'Ed White' 105.003 is one of my grails. I've only been researching & on the look-out for one for about 6 months, so I'm not adequately confident of my instincts to buy one from eBay yet, but this one looks good to me:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1964-Vinta...item3a77a4136e

Not perfect condition, but looks honest to me & that's what I'd want. I've checked the numbers in various reference tables & they all seem good.

I'd love to know your opinions on it, so that when the time eventually comes, I know whether I can trust my instincts.

PS. I also reckon that if the buyer tonight gets it for around £2500 they'd have done pretty well. Anyone disagree?

Kringkily · 31 July 2012, 06:50 AM

There was one that just went for 3400 USD the other day with a much better dial, hands and bezel than the one you are looking at. Same head only type of sale.

Ditch · 31 July 2012, 08:26 AM

Head only is what i'd be looking for. I just don't get on whith bracelets.

Due to exchange rates US prices look great, until you allow for UK import duties, then they'll likely be more expensive than UK sales.

This would be my 'adventure' watch, so little point in me buying mint condition, because after six months it wouldn't be that anymore. It isn't going to be living in a safe. Immediately upon purchase I'd send it off for pressure test & seals.

The eBay one went for £2050 in the end. If it is as honest as I think it is (albeit with very limited knowledge & experience) I think someone did OK there.

Kringkily · 31 July 2012, 08:30 AM

You want one that is in better shape. Not so faded bezel and the dial / hands in a bit better condition. The only reason I say this is because if it has some wear on it the bezel, dial and hands can not be replaced unless you do with new parts. Speedies I would try and find the absolute best you can for your money and not settle. You are also going to have to factor in a service which is over 1000 at Omega based on their price list or a private watchmaker. For something vintage and I was going to wear I wouldn't want a fragile piece that has seen better days. Just my thoughts friend.

GTS Dean · 31 July 2012, 09:24 AM

As a young boy, mom took me to the San Antonio airport to see Ed White return to his hometown after his spacewalk. I've been a space geek ever since.

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SS/Black "U" Daytona
TT GMT II-C
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Ditch · 31 July 2012, 10:43 AM

Thanks Kringkily. If a worn example might be unable to handle the kind of use I'd be giving it, then that's definitely a problem. Purely aesthetically I prefer well worn though. I know I'm in the minority on that.

I've got a private watchmaker in mind for first service, where it would be about £500. They have plenty of 321 experience.

I had been working on the assumption (perhaps incorrectly?) that so long as the movement & all functions operate correctly, then after a decent service it should be pretty reliable even if the bezel, case & dial are a bit on the worn side...

Your expert advice is much appreciated, & I'm fully aware that I know nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Ditch · 31 July 2012, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTS Dean

As a young boy, mom took me to the San Antonio airport to see Ed White return to his hometown after his spacewalk. I've been a space geek ever since.

____________________________
TT OysterQuartz
SS/Black "U" Daytona
TT GMT II-C
DD OysterQuartz
Brietling Aero
Omega Speedmaster Pro

I just got what we English call 'goosebumps' 3 times after reading that! Epic.

When people talk about sportsstars as 'heroes' it bugs me.

Ed White was a hero.

31 July 2012, 04:27 AM	#1
Ditch "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 242	Speedmaster 105.003 The 'Ed White' 105.003 is one of my grails. I've only been researching & on the look-out for one for about 6 months, so I'm not adequately confident of my instincts to buy one from eBay yet, but this one looks good to me: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1964-Vinta...item3a77a4136e Not perfect condition, but looks honest to me & that's what I'd want. I've checked the numbers in various reference tables & they all seem good. I'd love to know your opinions on it, so that when the time eventually comes, I know whether I can trust my instincts. PS. I also reckon that if the buyer tonight gets it for around £2500 they'd have done pretty well. Anyone disagree?

31 July 2012, 06:50 AM	#2
Kringkily "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: George Location: New York Watch: Speedmaster, Rolex Posts: 3,082	There was one that just went for 3400 USD the other day with a much better dial, hands and bezel than the one you are looking at. Same head only type of sale.

31 July 2012, 08:26 AM	#3
Ditch "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 242	Head only is what i'd be looking for. I just don't get on whith bracelets. Due to exchange rates US prices look great, until you allow for UK import duties, then they'll likely be more expensive than UK sales. This would be my 'adventure' watch, so little point in me buying mint condition, because after six months it wouldn't be that anymore. It isn't going to be living in a safe. Immediately upon purchase I'd send it off for pressure test & seals. The eBay one went for £2050 in the end. If it is as honest as I think it is (albeit with very limited knowledge & experience) I think someone did OK there.

31 July 2012, 08:30 AM	#4
Kringkily "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: George Location: New York Watch: Speedmaster, Rolex Posts: 3,082	You want one that is in better shape. Not so faded bezel and the dial / hands in a bit better condition. The only reason I say this is because if it has some wear on it the bezel, dial and hands can not be replaced unless you do with new parts. Speedies I would try and find the absolute best you can for your money and not settle. You are also going to have to factor in a service which is over 1000 at Omega based on their price list or a private watchmaker. For something vintage and I was going to wear I wouldn't want a fragile piece that has seen better days. Just my thoughts friend.

31 July 2012, 09:24 AM	#5
GTS Dean "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NB, TX Watch: 3570.50 Posts: 1,012	As a young boy, mom took me to the San Antonio airport to see Ed White return to his hometown after his spacewalk. I've been a space geek ever since. ____________________________ TT OysterQuartz SS/Black "U" Daytona TT GMT II-C DD OysterQuartz Brietling Aero Omega Speedmaster Pro

31 July 2012, 10:43 AM	#6
Ditch "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 242	Thanks Kringkily. If a worn example might be unable to handle the kind of use I'd be giving it, then that's definitely a problem. Purely aesthetically I prefer well worn though. I know I'm in the minority on that. I've got a private watchmaker in mind for first service, where it would be about £500. They have plenty of 321 experience. I had been working on the assumption (perhaps incorrectly?) that so long as the movement & all functions operate correctly, then after a decent service it should be pretty reliable even if the bezel, case & dial are a bit on the worn side... Your expert advice is much appreciated, & I'm fully aware that I know nothing in the grand scheme of things.

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