Rolex / Cartier 2 out of 4; HELP! Tough Tough Tough

[the dark knight]

Originally Posted by amh

Same.

Keep the GMT for sure, then one more for variety.

Why keep the GMT:
- Does everything the Sub can when it comes to realistic 'diving'
- Also has GMT function which is likely the mostly useful complication ever
- Similar size/weight as the sub many would say "They're the same watch"
- If you ever change your mind, a Sub is easier to add back than a GMT due to the relative hype
- Looks more interesting than the sub

While I also prefer the BLNR and thus agree with most of your points, can we say the BLNR can do everything the Sub does for “ diving” when it lacks a diver timing bezel?

[han_solo]

Originally Posted by jctrolex

Wasn’t the original Explorer a 34?

If you trace back to 34 Explorer, then all watches were smaller than now day's. However, Explorer was the first modern Rolex to return to a smaller size, to my knowledge. Well, except for the day date from 41 to 40...

[han_solo]

Originally Posted by sski

i'd keep the tank and gmt if in your shoes (welcome pop of color.)

That would be a good mix.

[han_solo]

Originally Posted by the dark knight

There seems to be mixed messaging. My AD said they can order a jubilee for my oyster BLNR as recently as last month, but some here have reported AD said no. So may want to ask your AD

Thank you so much for the info. May I have the quote on the jubilee bracelet from your AD?

[JJGreen]

Keep the two you like.

I would keep the Explorer and the Cartier. Since maybe those are the two least expensive, you can add one more? Omega or something.

[han_solo]

Originally Posted by the dark knight

While I also prefer the BLNR and thus agree with most of your points, can we say the BLNR can do everything the Sub does for “ diving” when it lacks a diver timing bezel?

The sub has its magic power.

I had one in 40mm with the maxi case; well, the time we still can walk in and get something right away from Rolex. Then I sold it. Then I missed it and traded in for the same model. I sold it again.

Last year, again, bought the 41mm sub...

When I hold it, I feel bored. I don't have it; I miss the look, the functionality, and the robustness.

Here we are again.

[han_solo]

Omega? Any suggestion? I had one-Seamaster in the white dial. The bracelet is... I wouldn't say bad... but not good?

[Auto16610]

Originally Posted by cdm765

I would sell the Sub and Cartier in your shoes.

Keep the blue and explorer. 100%

[marmite2005]

I'd drop the Explorer and the GMT.

The explorer would be easy to source again in the future. The GMT will probably be the easiest to sell and provide the biggest profit.

It leaves you a traditional sub and a dress watch (the Cartier will never bring a good resale profit anyway)

[the dark knight]

Originally Posted by han_solo

Thank you so much for the info. May I have the quote on the jubilee bracelet from your AD?

I didn't ask the price. If you search here I think you will find what ADs have quoted others. I want to say it's around $2k but I could be wrong.

[the dark knight]

Originally Posted by han_solo

The sub has its magic power.

I had one in 40mm with the maxi case; well, the time we still can walk in and get something right away from Rolex. Then I sold it. Then I missed it and traded in for the same model. I sold it again.

Last year, again, bought the 41mm sub...

When I hold it, I feel bored. I don't have it; I miss the look, the functionality, and the robustness.

Here we are again.

I know EXACTLY what you mean. I've bough and sold quite a number of Subs over the years.

I think the Sub is a wonderful (maybe the best) one-watch. If it's your only watch you can't get bored with it since it's the only one you have and you are stuck with it. This worked for me for a long time back in the day before the collecting bug bit me again.

But in a collection it can get boring and lost in the shuffle.

Having said that, I feel the exact same way about the Explorer which I have a similar history with the Sub. Great as an only watch, boring and lost in the shuffle in a collection. I had no problems wearing it everyday when it was my only nice watch, but I almost never wore it once I got other watches.

So I think I'm going to change my mind and contradict myself. I now think you should just keep the Cartier and one of the Rolexes (BLNR would be my pick by a mile). Because the Sub and Explorer don't really work well in a collection imo.

[han_solo]

Originally Posted by marmite2005

I'd drop the Explorer and the GMT.

The explorer would be easy to source again in the future. The GMT will probably be the easiest to sell and provide the biggest profit.

It leaves you a traditional sub and a dress watch (the Cartier will never bring a good resale profit anyway)

You may be right. If I sell my Explorer, I will go for vintage.

I'm not a fan of the modern Rolex movement. I mean, the movement is absolutely great! However, it makes the case back-humped. I love the vintage flat case back, and it defiantly wears better.

[han_solo]

Originally Posted by the dark knight

I know EXACTLY what you mean. I've bough and sold quite a number of Subs over the years.

I think the Sub is a wonderful (maybe the best) one-watch. If it's your only watch you can't get bored with it since it's the only one you have and you are stuck with it. This worked for me for a long time back in the day before the collecting bug bit me again.

But in a collection it can get boring and lost in the shuffle.

Having said that, I feel the exact same way about the Explorer which I have a similar history with the Sub. Great as an only watch, boring and lost in the shuffle in a collection. I had no problems wearing it everyday when it was my only nice watch, but I almost never wore it once I got other watches.

So I think I'm going to change my mind and contradict myself. I now think you should just keep the Cartier and one of the Rolexes (BLNR would be my pick by a mile). Because the Sub and Explorer don't really work well in a collection imo.

Hmmmm, collection imo... nice one. It will make me think for some time now.

I tried to be a one-watch guy. It's hard... harder than everything.

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by marmite2005

I'd drop the Explorer and the GMT.

The explorer would be easy to source again in the future. The GMT will probably be the easiest to sell and provide the biggest profit.

It leaves you a traditional sub and a dress watch (the Cartier will never bring a good resale profit anyway)

Problem is that the Explorer is the only one of the three Rolexes that he’s likely to take a loss on, though Sub may be same. In fact, that plus the Sub wouldn’t fetch much more than the GMT alone. That’s why I’d suggested starting by just selling the GMT and seeing if that’s sufficient.

[han_solo]

Originally Posted by dannyp

Problem is that the Explorer is the only one of the three Rolexes that he’s likely to take a loss on, though Sub may be same. In fact, that plus the Sub wouldn’t fetch much more than the GMT alone. That’s why I’d suggested starting by just selling the GMT and seeing if that’s sufficient.

The gmt is also going down right?


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[dannyp]

Originally Posted by han_solo

The gmt is also going down right?


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They all are. But still highest relative secondary market pricing of the four. Only Pepsi and Daytona are really maintaining anything remotely close to previous values.

[tagesol]

I actually depends on what's more dear to you but I would
keep the Explorer and GMT.

[Bigdaddy38]

Explorer and GMT as GMT has more function and a splash of color. Would hate to part with the Sub tho

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[TimeAZ]

Poll results look pretty reliable... lose the Cartier and the 35 mm explorer.

Later on, if you are still wanting an Explorer, then add the 40 mm Explorer when you are in a better position.

[zjd168]

if I were in your situation I would keep the BLNR and the Tank

[Kenny G]

I voted to keep your sub date and BLNR but..

If you’re worried about visual overlap, I’d suggest keeping your BLNR and Explorer and you’d realize the benefit of recovering more funds that way too (I assume by family reasons you’re looking to raise cash). The Explorer 36 can also fit the role of dressier watch better than a sub..

[han_solo]

Originally Posted by Kenny G

I voted to keep your sub date and BLNR but..

If you’re worried about visual overlap, I’d suggest keeping your BLNR and Explorer and you’d realize the benefit of recovering more funds that way too (I assume by family reasons you’re looking to raise cash). The Explorer 36 can also fit the role of dressier watch better than a sub..

I thought so. However, the modern Rolex makes the case bumped too much. Even the look of explorer fits the role of dress watch. The bump makes it feel sporty very much so.


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[han_solo]

Originally Posted by TimeAZ

Poll results look pretty reliable... lose the Cartier and the 35 mm explorer.

Later on, if you are still wanting an Explorer, then add the 40 mm Explorer when you are in a better position.

People just love sub and gmt.


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[SS Oyster]

I’d sell the Cartier and Explorer I


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[White Collar Boy]

If I loved them equally and was motivated by the money back, I‘d just sell the two that fetch the most.

Aesthetically though, I’d keep the Sub and the Explorer.

[1William]

The Cartier and the Explorer would exit. I would buy a Jubilee bracelet for the Batman to change it up a bit and have a great two watch collection.

[SearChart]

I'd keep the Explorer and Tank.

[han_solo]

Originally Posted by White Collar Boy

If I loved them equally and was motivated by the money back, I‘d just sell the two that fetch the most.

Aesthetically though, I’d keep the Sub and the Explorer.

Words to the heart.

[han_solo]

Well, that's new. Most people would suggest those two to go.

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by SearChart

I'd keep the Explorer and Tank.

Just curious, is that a matter of style preference, or slightly lower aversion to the 30 vs 35 or 85?