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Psmith · 18 February 2010, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jagwap

I voted 233, and I also voted with my wallet and bought one.

The dome looks beautiful in real life, and animates the dial.

I wanted the 270, as I do think a 10 day reserve does make sense on an automatic. You wear it for the weekend, and put it in the safe. Still ticking when you pull it out next weekend, and winds back up. However, it's all about proportion, and that's a personal choice. The addition of the rotor made the body just a little too thick on my wrist. The same applies more so to the 312 and it's cousins. Just take a look at profile views.

Now I've learnt to enjoy winding the fang up to the top.

It's all personal.

That's interesting - you found the 312 to be thicker (taller) than the 270 ?

Cheers

CorruptedSanity · 18 February 2010, 10:57 PM

I voted for the 312 because I like the cleaner dial and dislike the fang style PR indicator and also think the 233/270 are over priced.

Tommysol · 23 February 2010, 03:21 PM

Looks like a very close race between the 233 and 312. I kind of wonder what would happen if only those two were in a poll?

NSXsan · 23 February 2010, 06:03 PM

I own 270 but I dont mind 312 thou its value for money . . .

Trurolexer · 25 February 2010, 09:51 PM

233 for me.

Tommysol · 5 March 2010, 02:28 AM

Amazingly close between the 233 and 312! I wonder if we deleted the 270 from the poll...where would the 270 votes go to...the 312 or 233?

zlin08033 · 5 March 2010, 02:33 AM

If 270 is saem $$$ as 312, I guess you'll see the different result.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommysol

Amazingly close between the 233 and 312! I wonder if we deleted the 270 from the poll...where would the 270 votes go to...the 312 or 233?

alphamale2012 · 5 March 2010, 02:34 AM

Has to be 270.

Joey_V · 5 March 2010, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zlin08033

If 270 is saem $$$ as 312, I guess you'll see the different result.

I forgot... how much is retail on the 233 and 270?

I know the 312 is $7400...

Vanilla Gorilla · 5 March 2010, 09:45 AM

233. I like the simple dial with the power reserve and domed crystal.

jagwap · 6 March 2010, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psmith

That's interesting - you found the 312 to be thicker (taller) than the 270 ?

Cheers

Yes, visually. It may be similar in height, but as the 312 and 9000 family have more of their height taken up in steel, it makes them look fatter (or more presence if you like). The domed crystal adds less to the height asthetically. For me (purely personal) the 233 has the best proportions.

zlin08033 · 6 March 2010, 11:33 PM

233 is almost double of 312 at $14700.
270 is even more $17300

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joey_V

I forgot... how much is retail on the 233 and 270?

I know the 312 is $7400...

Joey_V · 7 March 2010, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zlin08033

233 is almost double of 312 at $14700.
270 is even more $17300

Geez...

mdtddd2007 · 8 March 2010, 02:38 PM

I too like the 233 and funny thing I show my son almost 4 years pointed out of the 3 pictures. Pointed at the middle one. Like father like son...boy he has good taste too 8).

Tommysol · 11 March 2010, 04:58 AM

Interesting that the 312 took the lead in this poll.

Do you think it has to do with the current state of the world economy that collectors are looking for better values...especially since the 312 is less than 1/2 the price of the 270 and 233?

Joey_V · 12 March 2010, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommysol

Interesting that the 312 took the lead in this poll.

Do you think it has to do with the current state of the world economy that collectors are looking for better values...especially since the 312 is less than 1/2 the price of the 270 and 233?

Yes... it's the overall package.

It'd be different if it was a poll based on desires rather than what you'd actually buy. If it were not for the financial standpoint, I'd pick up the 270 or 275.

E.Peynado · 30 September 2010, 10:03 AM

270

Randy · 30 September 2010, 10:10 AM

270 for me!

alexhr · 1 October 2010, 04:52 PM

233 for me, the flagship of panerai in-house movt.

alexhr · 1 October 2010, 05:23 PM

233 for me, the flagship of panerai in-house movt.

E.Peynado · 2 October 2010, 06:50 PM

So it means 270 owner's are in the most exclusive segment of 24.14%

B. Doggy · 3 October 2010, 01:47 AM

312 still in the lead....

rr-nyc · 3 October 2010, 02:35 AM

I have the 328(312) but I would love to have the 270

MrJ320 · 3 October 2010, 09:59 AM

233 for me. I actually like the heavier weight of the 312, but overall though the 233 is the one that's the best fit for me, and I love to wind the watch manually. Can't go wrong with any of them.

Cheers,
James

lee2375 · 3 October 2010, 11:08 AM

233!!!! The original inhouse...

E.Peynado · 3 October 2010, 01:11 PM

270 ! first in-house auto & more exclusive of all 3 (23.02% now)

Manual or Auto ? , remember the Ferraris & F1s , now most of them are paddle shift and no harm...

clint501 · 26 October 2010, 10:50 AM

I would definitely go for the 320. Why? mainly because you cannot fully appreciate the beauty of the brown croc strap vs. the black strap of the 312. And the power reserve is on the display back, not on the front where it clutters the dial. Also, the seconds has an auto reset on the 320 but not on the 312 (I believe)- this makes setting the time to the second much easier. And if you buy a 312, but then want the brown strap, it is $500, and this is half of the extra $1000 or so you pay for a GMT. Plus, of course, the GMT function, which can be hidden behind the hour hand.

ForçaBarça · 3 November 2010, 12:11 PM

I

312

Carlo Miguel · 4 November 2010, 11:28 AM

Go for the kill!!!

312's everywhere

il go for 233 / 270!

B. Doggy · 4 November 2010, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlo Miguel

Go for the kill!!!

312's everywhere

il go for 233 / 270!

At this juncture there are probably as many (if not more) 233's out there as 312's. I have yet to see current production numbers to date, but I'd bet this is the case..

View Poll Results: What is your favorite in-house movement watch?
PAM 312 (3 Day Auto)	144	38.71%
PAM 233 (8 Day Manual)	147	39.52%
PAM 270 (10 Day Auto)	81	21.77%
Voters: 372. You may not vote on this poll

30 September 2010, 10:03 AM	#47
E.Peynado Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Watch: SS Zenith Daytona Posts: 147	270 270

2 October 2010, 06:50 PM	#51
E.Peynado Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Watch: SS Zenith Daytona Posts: 147	270 So it means 270 owner's are in the most exclusive segment of 24.14%

3 October 2010, 01:47 AM	#52
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	312 still in the lead.... __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

3 October 2010, 11:08 AM	#55
lee2375 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Peter Location: Dallas, Houston, Watch: 5 Digit Hoarder Posts: 5,485	233!!!! The original inhouse... __________________ Instagram/Twitter @wxwatches Official Member: 'Perpetual 30' Las Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member: 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member: 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas International GTG 2018 Official Member: 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas International GTG 2019

18 February 2010, 10:57 PM	#32
CorruptedSanity Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Saif Location: Abu Dhabi, UAE Watch: AP Posts: 402	I voted for the 312 because I like the cleaner dial and dislike the fang style PR indicator and also think the 233/270 are over priced.

23 February 2010, 03:21 PM	#33
Tommysol "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: California Posts: 591	Looks like a very close race between the 233 and 312. I kind of wonder what would happen if only those two were in a poll?

23 February 2010, 06:03 PM	#34
NSXsan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 134	I own 270 but I dont mind 312 thou its value for money . . .

25 February 2010, 09:51 PM	#35
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	233 for me.

5 March 2010, 02:28 AM	#36
Tommysol "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: California Posts: 591	Amazingly close between the 233 and 312! I wonder if we deleted the 270 from the poll...where would the 270 votes go to...the 312 or 233?

5 March 2010, 02:34 AM	#38
alphamale2012 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Sam Location: UK Posts: 1,305	Has to be 270.

5 March 2010, 09:45 AM	#40
Vanilla Gorilla Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Bo Location: Baltimore, MD Watch: 111 Posts: 35	233. I like the simple dial with the power reserve and domed crystal.

8 March 2010, 02:38 PM	#44
mdtddd2007 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: U.S Watch: Rolex, PP, AP, GS Posts: 5,657	I too like the 233 and funny thing I show my son almost 4 years pointed out of the 3 pictures. Pointed at the middle one. Like father like son...boy he has good taste too 8).

11 March 2010, 04:58 AM	#45
Tommysol "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: California Posts: 591	Interesting that the 312 took the lead in this poll. Do you think it has to do with the current state of the world economy that collectors are looking for better values...especially since the 312 is less than 1/2 the price of the 270 and 233?

30 September 2010, 10:10 AM	#48
Randy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Randy Location: Ohio Watch: AP, Rolex, Panerai Posts: 1,241	270 for me!

1 October 2010, 04:52 PM	#49
alexhr "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Alex R Location: LA Watch: Tudor Blue Sub,Rol Posts: 134	233 for me, the flagship of panerai in-house movt.

1 October 2010, 05:23 PM	#50
alexhr "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Alex R Location: LA Watch: Tudor Blue Sub,Rol Posts: 134	233 for me, the flagship of panerai in-house movt.

3 October 2010, 02:35 AM	#53
rr-nyc Liar & Ratbag Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Renato Location: NYC / Miami Beach Watch: Rolex Daytona Posts: 5,344	I have the 328(312) but I would love to have the 270

3 October 2010, 09:59 AM	#54
MrJ320 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: James Location: Toronto Watch: IG: @j.project Posts: 2,194	233 for me. I actually like the heavier weight of the 312, but overall though the 233 is the one that's the best fit for me, and I love to wind the watch manually. Can't go wrong with any of them. Cheers, James

3 October 2010, 01:11 PM	#56
E.Peynado Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: USA Watch: SS Zenith Daytona Posts: 147	270 ! first in-house auto & more exclusive of all 3 (23.02% now) Manual or Auto ? , remember the Ferraris & F1s , now most of them are paddle shift and no harm...

26 October 2010, 10:50 AM	#57
clint501 Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: toronto Posts: 45	I would definitely go for the 320. Why? mainly because you cannot fully appreciate the beauty of the brown croc strap vs. the black strap of the 312. And the power reserve is on the display back, not on the front where it clutters the dial. Also, the seconds has an auto reset on the 320 but not on the 312 (I believe)- this makes setting the time to the second much easier. And if you buy a 312, but then want the brown strap, it is $500, and this is half of the extra $1000 or so you pay for a GMT. Plus, of course, the GMT function, which can be hidden behind the hour hand.

3 November 2010, 12:11 PM	#58
ForçaBarça Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Spain Watch: PAM 312L-TH CE1111 Posts: 17	I 312

4 November 2010, 11:28 AM	#59
Carlo Miguel Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Carlo Location: Philippines Watch: Rolex Daytona Posts: 444	Go for the kill!!! 312's everywhere il go for 233 / 270!

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