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rolexcd · 15 August 2010, 08:26 PM

I visited an AD and was told that there will be numerous special editions to be released for China, including a China wide edition (366), Hong Kong edition (402 and 412), Shanghai edition (410 and 420) and Taipei edition (403 and 413).

The 366 looks weid with a Chinese charater "Fu" down the bottom (limited to 1500 pieces.

412, 413 and 420 share the same front look with different back-cases.

402 and 403 are basically the same, 10-day automatic with different back-cases,

410 is 8-day hand wound model.

Watchman1957 · 15 August 2010, 09:14 PM

90% of the Chinese Singaporean Paneristi do not like it and feel that Richemont has lost the plot but don't take my biased word for it, read it all here: http://www.sg-roc.com/showthread.php?t=44962

Watchman1957 · 15 August 2010, 09:26 PM

Wonder if these will do the same as the Brooklyn Bridge PAM did and drop, drop and drop in price after people figure out it is not a collectors model and no one can see the city engraving since it is strapped to your wrist?

andrew79 · 16 August 2010, 12:47 AM

sorry to say I hate the special edition with the "fu" character on it.... i don't think it represents any DNA of the panerai at all... I am a chinese indonesian, but i see this as a joke just to capture some market exposure in china.
Just my 2 cts....

mfer · 16 August 2010, 01:42 AM

uhhhhh....man....uhhhh.....

L-16610 · 16 August 2010, 02:12 AM

I like that brand as much as I like Rolex but they are screwing it.

A LE should stay a LE. That means not making a new LE every week !!

mike · 16 August 2010, 02:37 AM

Well,...It's certainly got a lot of attention in the community. China represents a huge market, but you wonder sometimes if Panerai isn't taking the SE thing down the same road Omega has done with the Speedmaster.

B. Doggy · 16 August 2010, 03:10 AM

Ummm....interesting.

kevin5 · 16 August 2010, 04:17 AM

I actually really like them, seems like a lot of SEs for one country but I like them. Especially the 412, 402 and i'd like to see the 410 too...

andrew79 · 16 August 2010, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mike

Well,...It's certainly got a lot of attention in the community. China represents a huge market, but you wonder sometimes if Panerai isn't taking the SE thing down the same road Omega has done with the Speedmaster.

yup Mike....LE/SE should stay LE/SE... panerai is releasing more and more LE/SE that at one point in time, it means nothing compared to their non LE/SE product.

Speed · 16 August 2010, 09:14 AM

Maybe they should just call it an "edition." Not too special if they make so many of them!

TheLino · 16 August 2010, 09:39 AM

Actually, they look pretty cool. I'd pick one on the used market for sure.

rolexcd · 16 August 2010, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin5

I actually really like them, seems like a lot of SEs for one country but I like them. Especially the 412, 402 and i'd like to see the 410 too...

Here you go.

Joey_V · 16 August 2010, 10:37 AM

Gross...

ocwatching · 16 August 2010, 11:15 AM

interesting....

jvo300 · 16 August 2010, 12:09 PM

Too gimmicky for my tastes.

Carlos98326194 · 16 August 2010, 01:49 PM

Someone needs a restructuring in their business development dept

leeye · 16 August 2010, 08:58 PM

Richemont lacks creativity. Of all things they have to put a "fu" on the dial. Horror!

htc8p · 16 August 2010, 09:30 PM

not good. why do they have to bring in ethnicity

inspires · 16 August 2010, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlos98326194

Someone needs a restructuring in their business development dept

Ditto on that!

To be honest, most of the Mainland Chinese really only know Rolex and Patek Philippe.

Watchman1957 · 17 August 2010, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ocwatching

interesting....

What is so interesting, Phil?

Watchman1957 · 17 August 2010, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeye

Richemont lacks creativity. Of all things they have to put a "fu" on the dial. Horror!

Maybe they realized early on the criticism they were going to have about this model and it is meant as F. U.

mfer · 17 August 2010, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watchman1957

Maybe they realized early on the criticism they were going to have about this model and it is meant as F. U.

Kanger · 17 August 2010, 04:56 AM

The dial is kind of weird; that said, I love the back designs.

leeye · 17 August 2010, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watchman1957

Maybe they realized early on the criticism they were going to have about this model and it is meant as F. U.

hahaha that's a good one.

in true chinese tradition, the "fu" should be inverted which means arrival of prosperity.

or maybe the designer was pissed with the management and just vented his anger with the "fu".

jcatral14 · 18 August 2010, 10:22 AM

I like this one

Is this the 420? How much?

hkjai · 18 August 2010, 12:29 PM

nice. i like the Hong Kong and GMT version. thanks for sharing

Watchman1957 · 18 August 2010, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcatral14

I like this one

Is this the 420? How much?

Jay no difference in this and the current PAM 270 J or K (not sure about L or M) and you can easily get a precared for, used 270J now for about 10k USD or a 270K for about 11K USD because retail for these is about 13 or 14K USD if I am not mistaken.

Ok there is one difference, this model has the city engraving on the back that as we have all found out via the big price drops for the Brooklyn Bridge model that those engravings on the back don't mean much nor do they hold the value. But you can take it off your wrist at night and lay in bed and wish upon an engraving.....

Watchman1957 · 18 August 2010, 02:55 PM

OOOPPPPPSS

Sorry Jay, I just checked by the price list on this forum that 270 retail price for 2010 is:

PAM00270 Luminor 1950 P.2003 steel, black dial 44mm $17,300

Shade · 18 August 2010, 07:09 PM

I like the straps though... :D

16 August 2010, 12:47 AM	#4
andrew79 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Andrew Location: Indonesia Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,277	sorry to say I hate the special edition with the "fu" character on it.... i don't think it represents any DNA of the panerai at all... I am a chinese indonesian, but i see this as a joke just to capture some market exposure in china. Just my 2 cts.... __________________ Baume & Mercier Riviera Rolex GMT II c, DJ 116234, Sub 16610, EXP 2 16570 Panerai 111 , 232

16 August 2010, 01:42 AM	#5
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16 August 2010, 03:10 AM	#8
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16 August 2010, 10:37 AM	#14
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16 August 2010, 11:15 AM	#15
ocwatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Phil Location: CA Posts: 5,372	interesting.... __________________ too much into watches...

15 August 2010, 09:14 PM	#2
Watchman1957 Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Robert Location: Jakarta,Indonesia Watch: 201/A 202/A PreA9 Posts: 243	90% of the Chinese Singaporean Paneristi do not like it and feel that Richemont has lost the plot but don't take my biased word for it, read it all here: http://www.sg-roc.com/showthread.php?t=44962

15 August 2010, 09:26 PM	#3
Watchman1957 Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Robert Location: Jakarta,Indonesia Watch: 201/A 202/A PreA9 Posts: 243	Wonder if these will do the same as the Brooklyn Bridge PAM did and drop, drop and drop in price after people figure out it is not a collectors model and no one can see the city engraving since it is strapped to your wrist?

16 August 2010, 02:12 AM	#6
L-16610 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Europe Posts: 825	I like that brand as much as I like Rolex but they are screwing it. A LE should stay a LE. That means not making a new LE every week !!

16 August 2010, 02:37 AM	#7
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Well,...It's certainly got a lot of attention in the community. China represents a huge market, but you wonder sometimes if Panerai isn't taking the SE thing down the same road Omega has done with the Speedmaster.

16 August 2010, 04:17 AM	#9
kevin5 Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Northern VA Posts: 53	I actually really like them, seems like a lot of SEs for one country but I like them. Especially the 412, 402 and i'd like to see the 410 too...

16 August 2010, 09:14 AM	#11
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,695	Maybe they should just call it an "edition." Not too special if they make so many of them!

16 August 2010, 09:39 AM	#12
TheLino Retired Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 196	Actually, they look pretty cool. I'd pick one on the used market for sure.

16 August 2010, 12:09 PM	#16
jvo300 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 1,897	Too gimmicky for my tastes.

16 August 2010, 01:49 PM	#17
Carlos98326194 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Carlos Location: UK Watch: ing YOU! Posts: 1,121	Someone needs a restructuring in their business development dept __________________ 16610 116400GV 116520W 00112 116710LN 16610LV 00292 116520B

16 August 2010, 08:58 PM	#18
leeye "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Lee Location: Singapore Watch: Too many...... Posts: 689	Richemont lacks creativity. Of all things they have to put a "fu" on the dial. Horror!

16 August 2010, 09:30 PM	#19
htc8p "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Bert Location: philippines Watch: 116710 ln Posts: 3,443	not good. why do they have to bring in ethnicity

17 August 2010, 04:56 AM	#24
Kanger Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: North Carolina Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 5,524	The dial is kind of weird; that said, I love the back designs.

18 August 2010, 10:22 AM	#26
jcatral14 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Jay Location: NJ Watch: aholic Posts: 722	I like this one Is this the 420? How much? __________________ -Jay

18 August 2010, 12:29 PM	#27
hkjai Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NY Posts: 81	nice. i like the Hong Kong and GMT version. thanks for sharing

18 August 2010, 02:55 PM	#29
Watchman1957 Banned Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Robert Location: Jakarta,Indonesia Watch: 201/A 202/A PreA9 Posts: 243	OOOPPPPPSS Sorry Jay, I just checked by the price list on this forum that 270 retail price for 2010 is: PAM00270 Luminor 1950 P.2003 steel, black dial 44mm $17,300

18 August 2010, 07:09 PM	#30
Shade "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Norman Location: Jakarta Watch: All of 'em.. Posts: 2,926	I like the straps though... :D

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