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NiceLittleThings · 18 June 2021, 12:40 PM

I am curious what you all think based on your experience in recent years (2020, 2021) of the of a pepsi/batman/batgirl to ss Daytona (panda or black) ratio?

Do you think it's like 2:1, 5:1? Using ratios as I assume the total amount of watches an AD gets varies so much depending on their size I feel like.

HMHM · 18 June 2021, 01:43 PM

Black to white Daytona ratio is 1:1
Approximately 2 pieces each per year.
I would assume Pepsi to be quite similar.

NiceLittleThings · 18 June 2021, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HMHM

Black to white Daytona ratio is 1:1
Approximately 2 pieces each per year.
I would assume Pepsi to be quite similar.

Would you say that all types of ADs, regardless of size, generally only get 2 pieces per year? Or some factors do change the number of allocation?

HMHM · 18 June 2021, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NiceLittleThings

Would you say that all types of ADs, regardless of size, generally only get 2 pieces per year? Or some factors do change the number of allocation?

The AD chains in Malaysia generally have a few stores. So even if they get more allocation they are distributed to more boutiques. A stand-alone shop may get less but the ratio is still the same at the end.

So I would hedge a bet that it would be 4 Pepsi to 4 Daytona but 2 black and 2 white. Which makes it appear as though the Pepsi is easier to get but it’s actually not

RealMadrid1988 · 18 June 2021, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HMHM

Black to white Daytona ratio is 1:1
Approximately 2 pieces each per year.
I would assume Pepsi to be quite similar.

I think any figures will be wild speculation, but if there’s one thing that’s virtually certain, it’s that it will vary from AD to AD. The above numbers may be correct at a small AD, for example, but obviously the Rolex Boutique in NYC, for example, is likely to get more than 4 Daytonas per year.

Son Goku · 18 June 2021, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HMHM

Black to white Daytona ratio is 1:1
Approximately 2 pieces each per year.
I would assume Pepsi to be quite similar.

2 pieces per AD per year seems insanely low.... What are you basing this on?

HMHM · 18 June 2021, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Son Goku

2 pieces per AD per year seems insanely low.... What are you basing this on?

When I got my Daytona I spoke with the people how many they have gotten so far. It was the second half of the year. They have only sold 2 the first half of the year 1 black and 1 white. I took the 2nd black one. So I would assume it’s equal amount for the 2nd half the year?

And I mean it’s 4 pieces : 2 black and 2 white.

Just to clarify: I’m only speaking about the boutique I go to. There are a couple more boutiques run by the same company. So the total number may be higher but I can’t speak for the other branches.

YGRLX · 18 June 2021, 01:59 PM

mine gets 12 a year 6/6. 2 YG Green daytona's.

padi56 · 18 June 2021, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NiceLittleThings

I am curious what you all think based on your experience in recent years (2020, 2021) of the of a pepsi/batman/batgirl to ss Daytona (panda or black) ratio?

Do you think it's like 2:1, 5:1? Using ratios as I assume the total amount of watches an AD gets varies so much depending on their size I feel like.

In the real world know one would know this information except for Rolex themselves.

myporsche · 18 June 2021, 06:39 PM

The answer is who cares

Dini · 18 June 2021, 06:47 PM

From what I've heard from my AD (true or false) is they get about 12 Daytona's a year, split evenly between black and white. The ratio of GMT to Daytona's is about 5:1 and the split between the GMT's are roughly 3:2 (BLNR to BLRO). Again this could be completely fabricated but it does sound realistic.

teck21 · 18 June 2021, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by padi56

In the real world know one would know this information except for Rolex themselves.

I know this is one of Padi’s favourite lines, but I think the AD may know too!

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HogwldFLTR · 18 June 2021, 08:17 PM

I'd seriously doubt it's fixed but based on sales of the individual AD and their purchase power!!! Similar to sales from the ADs to customers!!!

Brew · 18 June 2021, 08:29 PM

Is this just another "How rare is my Precious" thread?

ks58 · 18 June 2021, 09:30 PM

I think every AD is slightly different in their total allocation, but it’s definitely very limited. And way less Daytona’s.

mg18 · 18 June 2021, 10:18 PM

I don't know about Daytonas, but my AD told me they see significantly more BLNR than BLRO, about 4-1. It kind of makes sense, since they offered me BLNR twice while I waited for my BLRO.

stylinleems · 18 June 2021, 10:22 PM

The AD where I purchased my 116500 Black dial (11.2018) from told me they received 10 Daytona's in that year in total. By that time, they had received 6 black and 4 white.

Benzsiam · 18 June 2021, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by teck21

I know this is one of Padi’s favourite lines, but I think the AD may know too!

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Lol

sj24k · 19 June 2021, 12:05 AM

2, 4, 6, 8. Another thread to speculate!

andrewgusa · 19 June 2021, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dini

From what I've heard from my AD (true or false) is they get about 12 Daytona's a year, split evenly between black and white. The ratio of GMT to Daytona's is about 5:1 and the split between the GMT's are roughly 3:2 (BLNR to BLRO). Again this could be completely fabricated but it does sound realistic.

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Originally Posted by mg18

I don't know about Daytonas, but my AD told me they see significantly more BLNR than BLRO, about 4-1. It kind of makes sense, since they offered me BLNR twice while I waited for my BLRO.

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Originally Posted by stylinleems

The AD where I purchased my 116500 Black dial (11.2018) from told me they received 10 Daytona's in that year in total. By that time, they had received 6 black and 4 white.

Good information. Thank you!

franktehtank · 19 June 2021, 12:45 AM

AD's who tell you they only get two steel daytonas a year are either lying to you, or are on Rolex's shit list, soon to be axed as an AD altogether.

Tools · 19 June 2021, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Son Goku

2 pieces per AD per year seems insanely low.... What are you basing this on?

There are several thousand AD's around the world.

Rolex only makes a few thousand of any model each year.

Seems like the math would not allow for very many of the low-volume, high interest, models to be much more than that.

turkeysub93 · 19 June 2021, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by franktehtank

AD's who tell you they only get two steel daytonas a year are either lying to you, or are on Rolex's shit list, soon to be axed as an AD altogether.

Pure speculation...but I think this holds true. Why give more desirable watches to stores that will eventually have their licenses pulled? Seems inevitable that Rolex will gravitate toward major players in major cities. Mom and pop shops will be a thing of that past sooner rather than later. Happening is pretty much all industries...consolidation just makes sense for a brand like Rolex.

MetalMickey · 19 June 2021, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

There are several thousand AD's around the world.

Rolex only makes a few thousand of any model each year.

Seems like the math would not allow for very many of the low-volume, high interest, models to be much more than that.

I can categorically state that my local independent gains 2 x all allocation pieces per year. This certainly applies to SS Daytona and a white gold OysterFlex, Yellow Gold Daytona Green face.
I would assume the Pepsi, but I've never discussed that model.

TunaTuna · 19 June 2021, 04:04 AM

To answer your question, the GMT to daytona ratio is about 10 to 1

seosub · 19 June 2021, 01:18 PM

Really depends on size of AD..

Having said that, I spoke to an AD (owner) Ive known for some time about what he gets in - this was before covid so things have changed I’m sure. Small-Mid size AD, but long standing history w Rolex.

-BLRO:BLNR is 1:1, but more demand for BLRO so longer wait; said he gets about 1 of each every month
-I forget the Daytona number but I’m pretty sure it was less than half annually and I didn’t ask split between black & white — Daytona demand exceeds all other watches so wait list even then was insane & they were not taking names
-He seemed to have the toughest time getting Blue Dial Skydweller - from what I remember he said supply on that watch was only 1-2 per year

All of this was a while ago so I may be off on Daytona and Skydweller but I remember the GMT numbers clearly

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Rrpdc · 19 June 2021, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by franktehtank

AD's who tell you they only get two steel daytonas a year are either lying to you, or are on Rolex's shit list, soon to be axed as an AD altogether.

+1

ArtNouveau · 19 June 2021, 02:13 PM

2019, the year I got my Daytona, I was told they got 30 for the year equally split by dial color. Around 48 BLRO’s for the year. High volume big city boutique.

Nairn1980 · 19 June 2021, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sj24k

2, 4, 6, 8. Another thread to speculate!

Harry-57 · 19 June 2021, 05:36 PM

Doesn't make much difference. They don't get enough to satisfy demand for years to come.

The Rolex buyer at my small, family owned AD will tell me how many models they got in the last year - to the best of his memory. They are also told their allocation for a following year although this is a minimum value. I've never asked about the Daytona because I have no interest. They get a minimum of 2 BLROs a year. They got more of everything last year.

The best way to get information from your AD is to ask them. They may not disclose or may give filtered numbers. But at least they won't be guessing.

18 June 2021, 12:40 PM	#1
NiceLittleThings "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: San Francisco Posts: 13	What is ratio of pepsi:daytona an AD gets? I am curious what you all think based on your experience in recent years (2020, 2021) of the of a pepsi/batman/batgirl to ss Daytona (panda or black) ratio? Do you think it's like 2:1, 5:1? Using ratios as I assume the total amount of watches an AD gets varies so much depending on their size I feel like.

18 June 2021, 08:17 PM	#13
HogwldFLTR 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: What's on my wrist Posts: 33,256	I'd seriously doubt it's fixed but based on sales of the individual AD and their purchase power!!! Similar to sales from the ADs to customers!!! __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

18 June 2021, 01:43 PM	#2
HMHM "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Real Name: HM Location: 🇲🇾 Posts: 2,356	Black to white Daytona ratio is 1:1 Approximately 2 pieces each per year. I would assume Pepsi to be quite similar.

18 June 2021, 01:59 PM	#8
YGRLX "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: N/A Posts: 544	mine gets 12 a year 6/6. 2 YG Green daytona's.

18 June 2021, 06:39 PM	#10
myporsche "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: LA<>NY Watch: Rolex♠Lange Posts: 2,277	The answer is who cares

18 June 2021, 06:47 PM	#11
Dini "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Real Name: Fu Location: London Watch: 124060/126710BLRO Posts: 312	From what I've heard from my AD (true or false) is they get about 12 Daytona's a year, split evenly between black and white. The ratio of GMT to Daytona's is about 5:1 and the split between the GMT's are roughly 3:2 (BLNR to BLRO). Again this could be completely fabricated but it does sound realistic.

18 June 2021, 08:29 PM	#14
Brew "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: Larry Location: Finger Lakes Posts: 6,007	Is this just another "How rare is my Precious" thread?

18 June 2021, 09:30 PM	#15
ks58 Banned Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: United States Posts: 1,533	I think every AD is slightly different in their total allocation, but it’s definitely very limited. And way less Daytona’s.

18 June 2021, 10:18 PM	#16
mg18 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Toronto Watch: 126710BLRO Posts: 696	I don't know about Daytonas, but my AD told me they see significantly more BLNR than BLRO, about 4-1. It kind of makes sense, since they offered me BLNR twice while I waited for my BLRO.

18 June 2021, 10:22 PM	#17
stylinleems 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: N/A Posts: 3,179	The AD where I purchased my 116500 Black dial (11.2018) from told me they received 10 Daytona's in that year in total. By that time, they had received 6 black and 4 white.

19 June 2021, 12:05 AM	#19
sj24k "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: GMT-07:00 Posts: 895	2, 4, 6, 8. Another thread to speculate!

19 June 2021, 12:45 AM	#21
franktehtank "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Canada Watch: Sub, GMT Posts: 712	AD's who tell you they only get two steel daytonas a year are either lying to you, or are on Rolex's shit list, soon to be axed as an AD altogether.

19 June 2021, 04:04 AM	#25
TunaTuna 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: Merica Posts: 1,310	To answer your question, the GMT to daytona ratio is about 10 to 1

19 June 2021, 01:18 PM	#26
seosub "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Canada Posts: 308	Really depends on size of AD.. Having said that, I spoke to an AD (owner) Ive known for some time about what he gets in - this was before covid so things have changed I’m sure. Small-Mid size AD, but long standing history w Rolex. -BLRO:BLNR is 1:1, but more demand for BLRO so longer wait; said he gets about 1 of each every month -I forget the Daytona number but I’m pretty sure it was less than half annually and I didn’t ask split between black & white — Daytona demand exceeds all other watches so wait list even then was insane & they were not taking names -He seemed to have the toughest time getting Blue Dial Skydweller - from what I remember he said supply on that watch was only 1-2 per year All of this was a while ago so I may be off on Daytona and Skydweller but I remember the GMT numbers clearly Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

19 June 2021, 02:13 PM	#28
ArtNouveau 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: NWA, USA Watch: BLRO/Daytona/OP41s Posts: 4,964	2019, the year I got my Daytona, I was told they got 30 for the year equally split by dial color. Around 48 BLRO’s for the year. High volume big city boutique.

19 June 2021, 05:36 PM	#30
Harry-57 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Harry Location: England Posts: 9,678	Doesn't make much difference. They don't get enough to satisfy demand for years to come. The Rolex buyer at my small, family owned AD will tell me how many models they got in the last year - to the best of his memory. They are also told their allocation for a following year although this is a minimum value. I've never asked about the Daytona because I have no interest. They get a minimum of 2 BLROs a year. They got more of everything last year. The best way to get information from your AD is to ask them. They may not disclose or may give filtered numbers. But at least they won't be guessing.

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