Want to learn about 5170

[Grisha40299]

Everyone, I’m trying to learn about 5170. Has this reference been on production about 13 years? Are black dials more valuable because of shorter window of production? Does anyone know how long each variation has been in production? Can this be worn as a “casual everyday” piece like a Daytona if on a different strap?

Thanks

[thetinkercompanies]

5170 was first introduced in 2010. The watch has gone through several iterations over the years, including a recent update in 2019 that features a new dial color and an updated movement.

[thetinkercompanies]

By swapping out the leather strap for a more casual option, such as a NATO or rubber strap, the 5170 can take on a more versatile and relaxed look

[HMHM]

I was told the 5170P had the shortest production run, approx 200-250 pieces max.

[Grisha40299]

Please post any wrist shots in different dial variations. How does it wear compared to Daytona?

[jon_jon]

The 5170 started with the J, then several variants of the G and a few R variants and finally the P version with diamond hour markers. When the P version came out, the diamond markers were divisive and many people didnt like it. It could be purchased from an AD at a decent discount.

Then watch market started a crazy period with Nautilus and Aquanaut prices going through the roof and the 5170P prices somewhat followed suit along with PM Daytona prices. Granted the 5170P wasn't produced more than a couple years, collectors will probably value that watch over the J, G and R versions.

[azizu]

White gold with pulsation dial gets my vote for sure.
I don’t know about putting it on nato, however putting it on a calf lather or new leather that Patek Philippe introduced that looks like sailcloth but it is rubber with rubber lining will make it daily driver for sure.
It’s on a totally different universe than Daytona IMHO, you can just look at the disaply case back and finishing all day long


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[GB-man]

It’s no longer being produced as it’s been replaced by the 5172G. It’s an absolute classic execution of a dress chronograph and a relative value on the secondary market. I personally like the 5170R black dial and the 5170P but that comes at a significant premium.

[LJubel328]

I have found the 5170 to be quite versatile depending on the strap. I love mine


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[sensui]

Originally Posted by LJubel328

I have found the 5170 to be quite versatile depending on the strap. I love mine


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Great look.

[7sins]

Originally Posted by LJubel328

I have found the 5170 to be quite versatile depending on the strap. I love mine


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Gorgeous

[draken1]

Where did you get those straps from? What are they called? Is that cloth linen or soemthing?

[LJubel328]

Originally Posted by sensui

Great look.

Originally Posted by 7sins

Gorgeous

Thanks guy

Originally Posted by draken1

Where did you get those straps from? What are they called? Is that cloth linen or soemthing?

The Geneva Salon was nice enough to give me a couple of straps while visiting in December. The one in the photo is the 5226 strap and I also have the beige calfskin 5935 strap. Both look quite nice on the 5170p imo

[bobernet]

5170P is awesome. I nearly bought one twice while they were still for sale at ADs.

[N1te Ryd3r]

Originally Posted by bobernet

5170P is awesome. I nearly bought one twice while they were still for sale at ADs.

Do you recall what the retail price was prior to it being discontinued by chance?

[Calatrava r]

I had the black lacquer dial model, and it is old school Patek. The watch is very hard to read in most low lighting at a glance as the hands blend into the black shiny dial. The key for me was to angle the watch, so the available light reflects off the hands. Many of the newer references have a more matte finished dial and lume on the hands. other than that, it is just your preference for black dials in dress watches.

[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by azizu

White gold with pulsation dial gets my vote for sure.
I don’t know about putting it on nato, however putting it on a calf lather or new leather that Patek Philippe introduced that looks like sailcloth but it is rubber with rubber lining will make it daily driver for sure.
It’s on a totally different universe than Daytona IMHO, you can just look at the disaply case back and finishing all day long


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I agree. One of the best iterations in the line.

[Chiboy]

Originally Posted by N1te Ryd3r

Do you recall what the retail price was prior to it being discontinued by chance?

The 5170P is the only Patek I have ever tried on, and I tried it on twice. The second time was when we landed in Paris and we were trying to stay awake the first day to get on Paris time. It's a beautiful watch and reminds me of the baguette version of the platinum Daytona in that the diamonds are very subtle. I told my wife that this was the only watch I would ever consider swapping my Daytona for. She was surprised when I said that, but I never tried to make it happen anyway.

I believe MSRP on the 5170P was around $90k.

[N1te Ryd3r]

Originally Posted by Chiboy

The 5170P is the only Patek I have ever tried on, and I tried it on twice. The second time was when we landed in Paris and we were trying to stay awake the first day to get on Paris time. It's a beautiful watch and reminds me of the baguette version of the platinum Daytona in that the diamonds are very subtle. I told my wife that this was the only watch I would ever consider swapping my Daytona for. She was surprised when I said that, but I never tried to make it happen anyway.

I believe MSRP on the 5170P was around $90k.

Thank you for the info.

Funny you say that as I am currently thinking about selling a Platona (and a few other models) to fund new purchases, one of which would be a 5170P. And all decent candidates I've come across are price at >$110k which, with a little bit of haggling, may not be that unreasonable actually...

It's a stunning watch, this is for sure!

[N1te Ryd3r]

Originally Posted by Chiboy

The 5170P is the only Patek I have ever tried on, and I tried it on twice. The second time was when we landed in Paris and we were trying to stay awake the first day to get on Paris time. It's a beautiful watch and reminds me of the baguette version of the platinum Daytona in that the diamonds are very subtle. I told my wife that this was the only watch I would ever consider swapping my Daytona for. She was surprised when I said that, but I never tried to make it happen anyway.

I believe MSRP on the 5170P was around $90k.

Thank you for the information

[jamestucker]

Originally Posted by HMHM

I was told the 5170P had the shortest production run, approx 200-250 pieces max.

5170P was produced for 2 years, the smallest AD in the UK received 2 pieces, with the large ADs receiving more pieces so way more than 200 - 250 pieces had been produced.

[ts3]

Originally Posted by N1te Ryd3r

Do you recall what the retail price was prior to it being discontinued by chance?

In mid 2018 it was EUR 87k including 19% German VAT.

[N1te Ryd3r]

Originally Posted by ts3

In mid 2018 it was EUR 87k including 19% German VAT.

thanks!

[chimp98]

Originally Posted by Grisha40299

Everyone, I’m trying to learn about 5170. Has this reference been on production about 13 years? Are black dials more valuable because of shorter window of production? Does anyone know how long each variation has been in production? Can this be worn as a “casual everyday” piece like a Daytona if on a different strap?



Thanks

I wear mine with jeans/khakis to the office everyday and no one bats an eye. A strap change makes a huge difference.tapatalk_771472531.jpg

[broca00]

Originally Posted by HMHM

I was told the 5170P had the shortest production run, approx 200-250 pieces max.

I do think the 5170P has the potential to be highly coveted in the future:

- FIRST in-house manual winding chronograph movement. Anything first has a tendency to be more collective vs. not.
- PLATINUM. Most precious of all precious metals?
- DIAMOND baguette markers. Highly divisive at first but IMO this adds to the uniqueness of this timepiece.
- SHORT PRODUCTION. I don't know the numbers but two years is quite short.

[APGuru]

The 5170 initially launched with the J model, followed by multiple versions of the G and a handful of R variants, culminating in the P version featuring diamond hour markers. Upon its release, the diamond markers on the P model sparked mixed reactions, with a notable number disapproving. It was available from an Authorized Dealer at a reasonable discount.

[sensui]

Originally Posted by APGuru

The 5170 initially launched with the J model, followed by multiple versions of the G and a handful of R variants, culminating in the P version featuring diamond hour markers. Upon its release, the diamond markers on the P model sparked mixed reactions, with a notable number disapproving. It was available from an Authorized Dealer at a reasonable discount.

Hmmmmm. Patek references that wasn't accepted on release and then rocketed in popularity and value. Nope.... Never seen that before.