“The Supercase was a mistake!”

[mykii]

Originally Posted by inv1siblehand

Disclaimer: I am biased as a 114060 owner and lover

Opinion: the Supercase helped to differentiate the Submariner from other dive watches. The original case shape introduced in the 1950's was copied by other brands and Rolex had to move away from a design they created to stand out from the pack. The new case looks beautiful, but it may lead to consumers considering other divers more readily than they had previously.

Well to add to this, I was drawn to Rolex finally because of the 114060. The case and its distinct "square" profile when viewed on another party, really distinguishes it, and is completely unique.

It emphasizes the tolerances where the bracelet meets the case, and I don't think any other brand could successfully imitate the look TBH.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Fin3908

I have a Dj36 just purchased, love it, very light, feels nice on my wrist.

I also have a 16710 larger watch feels great. Love it also

I recently got the call for the SD43.
I was worried I wasn’t going to like it because of the size. I tried it on, haven’t taking of yet. Great watch.

Rolex made no mistake, they know what there doing your all talking about now.

if you don’t like the watch because of the size
Don’t buy it!



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So you don't currently own a Fatman cased Sub?

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by mykii

Well to add to this, I was drawn to Rolex finally because of the 114060. The case and its distinct "square" profile when viewed on another party, really distinguishes it, and is completely unique.

It emphasizes the tolerances where the bracelet meets the case, and I don't think any other brand could successfully imitate the look TBH.

Perhaps they may not wish to?
Let's see what invitations comes up with

[Fin3908]

I let 114060 for the SD43


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[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Fin3908

I let 114060 for the SD43


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I see

[Thrasher36]

I dont like the reviewer.

[Equity]

Originally Posted by thenewrick

I’m standing by my opinion that the Hulk is the JNCO jeans of Rolex.

This made me spit out my Surge


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[thlax]

Originally Posted by noshame

I own an 116610LN and love the look of the supercase. I'm often confused when members talk about how the sub is a great tool watch, so solid, rugged, and tough, yet they want it to have "slim" lugs and a more "elegant" case shap. I appreciate the style of the 5-digit subs, but I also appreciate the bold risk Rolex took with the supercase. I respect people's opinions, but I get a little tired when people bash the supercase, especially when they haven't tried one on. Also, I could be wrong, but I believe the absolute outside to outside lug width in the new 12xxxx is similar to the 11xxxx, but because of the increase in bracelet width from 20 to 21mm, there is an optical illusion that the lugs are slimmer.

Maybe the optical illusion you’re talking about is this:

“Rolex also revised the numbers on the bezel of the Submariner by slightly tilting the numbers with precision, creating an illusion of it curving with the bezel itself. If you look closely at the 50 in the upper left, you’ll notice the top of the 5 and the 0 are slightly further apart than at their bottom.”


126610

[thlax]

I think after owning both during an overlapping time, I can whole heartedly say that Rolex completely knows what they’re doing in the market, spent a lot of R&D to refine this update to be as streamlined as can be with smallest amount of change while holding pretty much everything else true while giving them an update they can roll out to other models.

I do think the launch and release of the watch was jumbled and probably a one off with the supply up front and so soon since announcement.

The fact that there is a thread going on this long in circles just reinforces that they absolutely know their customer and market.

Lastly, IMO, the Sub Date 126610ln looks better than the new ND Sub. I think the new space on the dial helps balance the slight clutter of 4lines and date however I think the ND Sub looks better on a fat boy 114060.

Bravo. Keep it coming.


126610

[Kostas]

Imagine being so bitter that you have to condemn everyone that has bought a sub in the last ten years, and call it a mistake, oh and falling back on it’s not me it’s what some YT video said.

You’d think that if you like the new one you’d start a thread saying how much you like the new, but on the internet these days it’s about hate and trolling.

But of course the poll didn’t go the way they had hoped

[Jamie1111]

Originally Posted by Thanos

The reality is

NO ONE CARES what Crown & Caliber thinks!!

There opinion is as important as mine

I hope they read and understand this

^^^^

[Vetracer]

I have two beautiful “mistakes” and have no intention of getting the new 41mm due to the similarity with the outgoing subs.

[garyk]

Originally Posted by steveyrock

It wasn't a mistake. At the time larger watches were in fashion. I am glad they did the supercase rather than increase the size. Now smaller watches are in, I still surprised they increase to 40.5mm. I know it not much and that they slimed out the lugs to make it look smaller but I still surprised they went larger. I wonder what would it look like if they went to 39.5 MM and kept 20mm lug with.

So, smaller watches are in??? but they went larger? anyway, if I had said that, I get flamed. I do get your meaning!

[Frank McKay]

I HATE these clock bait threads, mission accomplished by the OP though.

[Ravager135]

Crown and Caliber is not the authority. They put out good content, but the difference between the 5 digit references and the newest 6 digit references is far greater than the difference between the older and newer 6 digit references. To therefore say the "supercase" was a mistake, you are essentially also saying the newest references are probably also a mistake because they more closely resemble the 116610, etc than the 16610. We are talking a millimeter difference here and there.

[Etschell]

Originally Posted by Kostas

Imagine being so bitter that you have to condemn everyone that has bought a sub in the last ten years, and call it a mistake, oh and falling back on it’s not me it’s what some YT video said.

You’d think that if you like the new one you’d start a thread saying how much you like the new, but on the internet these days it’s about hate and trolling.

But of course the poll didn’t go the way they had hoped

Best part about c and c is the case is still the supercase.

[TTalk]

Originally Posted by vh2k

They have 68K subscribers and the video received 11,000+ views and a 94% positive rating in only 24 hours. Fairly impressive.

This video is more accurate and informative, with less opinion and more facts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

And it has more subscribers, views, and ‘likes’... not that those numbers matter anywhere but on Snapface and Twittergram.

[garyk]

Originally Posted by Kostas

Looks like someones about to have a meltdown

I vote Kostas beautiful watch as the best on this thread lol...

[Kostas]

thank you Gary!

i have a diverse range of timepieces but the gold sub is a keeper

[inadeje]

Originally Posted by Thanos

The reality is

NO ONE CARES what Crown & Caliber thinks!!

There opinion is as important as mine

I hope they read and understand this

I’ve never heard of them, who/what are they? yet another deadbeat talentless influencer?

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by Kostas

Imagine being so bitter that you have to condemn everyone that has bought a sub in the last ten years, and call it a mistake, oh and falling back on it’s not me it’s what some YT video said.

You’d think that if you like the new one you’d start a thread saying how much you like the new, but on the internet these days it’s about hate and trolling.

But of course the poll didn’t go the way they had hoped

Very well said.

[Boaters]

I like it.

[garyk]

Perfect!

[David001]

Rolex have been making a case with thinner lugs and more svelte lines since 1992, they called it a Yachtmaster, but it wasn't popular.

It hasn't been hugely popular throughout almost three decades so it tells you something about that shape.

Some people don't know what they like until Instagram tells them.

[Wizardly]

Originally Posted by kostas

imagine being so bitter that you have to condemn everyone that has bought a sub in the last ten years, and call it a mistake, oh and falling back on it’s not me it’s what some yt video said.

You’d think that if you like the new one you’d start a thread saying how much you like the new, but on the internet these days it’s about hate and trolling.

But of course the poll didn’t go the way they had hoped

^bravo.^

[Psmith]

Originally Posted by Kostas

Imagine being so bitter that you have to condemn everyone that has bought a sub in the last ten years, and call it a mistake, oh and falling back on it’s not me it’s what some YT video said.

You’d think that if you like the new one you’d start a thread saying how much you like the new, but on the internet these days it’s about hate and trolling.

But of course the poll didn’t go the way they had hoped

Pretty much sums up this thread

[kwingy]

Jeez are people still talking about this? The super case design love it or hate it has been around for 13 years now and in that time, they sold millions of watches and remained as hard to get as ever. Not bad for a mistake.

[David001]

Originally Posted by kwingy

Jeez are people still talking about this? The super case design love it or hate it has been around for 13 years now and in that time, they sold millions of watches and remained as hard to get as ever. Not bad for a mistake.

Indeed, and the Rolex explosion in popularity and fashion (i.e. massive high demand) happened in the last few years whilst the super case was the current design, so if it was a mistake then it's a jolly lucky one.

Maybe changing it is a mistake

[peterskinner]

There was always a large contingent of owners who disliked the super case, and publicly said so. I bought one but couldn’t stand it, just ugly. Square, ‘blocky’ and lacking any elegance,
In the long run, it will be seen as the worst design in the entire run of submariners. Rolex won’t make that mistake again. Of course, there will always be fans, and they’re welcome to it. There’s more than enough around .

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by peterskinner

There was always a large contingent of owners who disliked the super case, and publicly said so. I bought one but couldn’t stand it, just ugly. Square, ‘blocky’ and lacking any elegance,
In the long run, it will be seen as the worst design in the entire run of submariners. Rolex won’t make that mistake again. Of course, there will always be fans, and they’re welcome to it. There’s more than enough around .

The new design is hardly a radical change. So minimal the average person would never notice.