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24 March 2020, 01:37 AM | #3481 |
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The WHO stated in a March, 2019 article that...
Every year across the globe, there are an estimated 1 billion cases, of which 3 to 5 million are severe cases, resulting in 290,000 to 650,000 influenza-related respiratory deaths. There is a wide difference between 290,000 and 650,000... Embracing ambiguity will be a benefit as you grapple with the onslaught of dodgy numbers - if not for your outlook, then for your sanity. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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24 March 2020, 01:38 AM | #3482 | |
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That CNN story is just them posting the same CDC report. There was no new original nor investigational reporting into its veracity. I can only say we won’t know with any precision. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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Now, it’s disingenuousness is a problem as it keeps coming up as marginalization of Coronavirus. |
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regardless of the potentially questionable numbers, what we know for a fact is that the flu is a hugely impactful ailment that often renders people on their a$$, and sometimes worse. and clearly it also happens in huge numbers.
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I see your point 77T and Fleetlord.
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Army troops being deployed in Johannesburg
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I hope people understand the responsibility on each and every one of their own shoulders to act with prudence and not unknowingly add to the exponential spread, consequently infecting and possibly killing more vulnerable people. Again, you know you can be asymptomatic for around 10 days. |
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Many times a day, I see people throwing out influenza incidence and mortality rates to show that Coronavirus is apparently a minor problem in comparison. However, in almost 30 years of ER practice as a doc, every year of which we dealt with influenza, I never saw anything as frightening as what is happening now with Covid-9. I’m not at all comforted that SO FAR, the Covid numbers are less than those of influenza.
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Flu is a big deal, but flu deaths are spread out, both in terms of time, across 6 months of the year as well as in terms of location - many 'flu deaths are in the community rather than in hospitals. Because our immune systems have encountered 'flu before and because there's an (imperfect) vaccine, we don't all get it at the same time. If we did it'd kill even more people.
I've opined on here that the COVID-19 mortality rate will end up being lower that the 3-4% people are talking about, and I stand by that though it'll likely be higher than the average seasonal 'flu epidemic. But this misses the point. The problem is the virus will overwhelm any given health service if left unchecked, because the majority of the population will get it within a short time-frame, many of them will need hospital and critical care and then the law of large numbers applies. When that happens, not only will lots of people with COVID-19 start dying, lots of people with other treatable medical conditions will start dying for lack of access to critical care. Fast.
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The number of new cases in Italy has fallen for the second day. Welcome news.
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Great point. I am ok with “shelter in place” orders for the very elderly (more than 70?) for a set period of time, with public support.
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South Africa .Country lock down ,21 days starting Thursday at Midnight .
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Geez. They’re going into fall, right?
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https://www.marketwatch.com/story/vi...?mod=home-page
Not sure if this is true maybe our friends from across the pond can chime in. Article is saying a lot of people in the U.K. are ignoring social distancing |
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I am just feeling horrible about their mortality rate, from what I saw, close to 10%??? |
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Very much appreciate your commentary and experience.
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This is so far from "the flu" that the light from "the flu" is going to take days to reach it. Appreciate your words of wisdom, Joey. |
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Are symptoms so drastically different between coronavirus and seasonal flu that you can tell which patients have coronavirus without an actual coronavirus test? Not trying to be confrontational. Genuinely curious. |
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