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20 March 2020, 05:02 AM | #2821 |
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on a lighter note, Apple has pledged donations to Protezione Civile in Italy to help aid in the fight against the virus. They've already donated 15 million worldwide so far and are looking to do more. Its great PR but nevertheless a good gesture. Also carnival has offered to use its ships as temporary floating hospitals. Glad to see there are some corporations helping out regardless.
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20 March 2020, 05:33 AM | #2829 |
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Let's look at the bright side. Carbon dioxide emissions are certainly going down and this is going to make it more likely that climate change will be mitigated. It could perhaps wake the world up to the fact that we do not really need to travel and consume as much as we have been doing. This is thankfully not all doom and gloom.
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Really disappointed to hear, both from friends/colleagues and the BBC via the news that lots of pubs and restaurants in London are still doing good business with people who don’t seem to give a toss. All whilst hospitals are seeing more and more seriously unwell people coming in.
I would support enforced deprivation of liberty at this stage. There’s always going to be a core of people who will not be told anything. They need to be “persuaded”.
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It’s not. That was canned about 24 hours after it was announced (though even then it wasn’t the core of the strategy, rather an intended side-effect). The Imperial study posted and quoted extensively above saw to that.
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On a theoretical level how do you see this pandemic ending. The people most at risk will always be at risk until a vaccine, I guess. And we can’t shut the world down forever. People need to work, civilization needs jobs, an economy etc.
What is the exit strategy. Quarantine high risk people only, wait a year or more for a vaccine.... No emotional responses please, just theoretically, what do you see as an end game here. |
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As I've said previously, I'm not advocating simply doing nothing. However we must get back to living, working and yes - spending. I think the middle ground we arrive at will involve dramatically ramping up testing. We must identify the infected very early on and get them quarantined. We will need to continue the "social distancing," but it cannot be shelter-in-place. The last piece is that hopefully we will arrive at a treatment or treatments which can at least be somewhat effective.
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The exit comes when there’s a vaccine or a cure, though as you say that might take a year or longer. In the meantime the economy gets marmalised.
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Thanks for that. I saw Boris talking about the herd immunity plan and I was horrified. If the herd immunity plan has indeed been canned, then people should certainly not be allowed to congregate in restaurants, etc., given how many already seem to be infected in the UK. I hope that confusion and poor leadership are not going to cause needless deaths.
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It seems that every country is doing it's "own thing." They should be getting all the great minds from each country and thrashing this out together. There should be a world strategy instead of whats going on now. UK and European countries doing different things from each other, the US doing different again, US states all doing different strategy's it's an absolute mess.
It looks like each countries leader wants to be crowned "the saviour of the world" when their country finds a treatment/cure/vaccine.
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1. Testing, testing, testing - early identification of cases and quarantine. Develop new ways of contact tracing
2. Infrastructure - dramatically ramp up production of all necessary PPE & ventilators, build temporary medical facilities, convert existing structures into medical facilities 3. Innovate - development of an antiviral treatment
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What approach is the US now taking with testing? I see 90% of those tested were negative but are they testing symptomatic or others also?
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20 March 2020, 06:00 AM | #2845 | |
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I do also think it’s understandable to a degree: This situation is unprecedented in the last hundred years and the remedies - whilst they may be the right thing to do - will also have harmful consequences. These are not decisions that I would want to be having to make.
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We are a country in the United States that’s used to getting something from Amazon in two days. So therefore a large portion of our population is quite upset that our country can’t instantly manufacture tens of millions of highly complicated test kits for a new virus. At least everyone blames the federal government for it even though to be perfectly frank that’s asinine. But I would like to blame them for everything anyway.
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I think it’s highly dependent on location. Local to me, they opened a drive thru test facility just yesterday. Despite needing an appointment based on a Doctor’s orders (which requires suspicion of infection), they tested 60 the first day. It will be interesting to see how many are tested each day to see if this high number on the first day was due to pent-up demand or if infections are really that numerous. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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