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Joey_V · 21 February 2008, 02:31 PM

Hey fellas,

Looking to get a beater watch.... what are your opinions regarding Titanium vs SS? Which scratches easier? Which is better for a beater?

Thanks again.

mailman · 21 February 2008, 08:20 PM

What are you looking for in the watch, other then it being SS or Ti? Also if you don't mind me asking, what's your price range? Maybe we can be a little more helpful.

pa7el · 21 February 2008, 09:05 PM

Titanium is easier to scratc and harder to remove scratches from due to oxide film on titanuim cases.

It also looks like plastic IMO. but some will like it is light weight)

For durable good look i would go fo brushed SS

Good look in search!

TheDude · 23 February 2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pa7el

Titanium is easier to scratc and harder to remove scratches from due to oxide film on titanuim cases.

It also looks like plastic IMO. but some will like it is light weight)

For durable good look i would go fo brushed SS

Good look in search!

I'd have to disagree slightly with this.

It seems that some manufacturers' watches scratch very easily, while others do not. My Citizen Eco-Zilla has been given no special handling, and I have yet to put a mark in the titanium.

I love the look, very close to bead-blasted stainless. If you like the look but for some reason want steel, get a bead-blasted watch or have one blasted.

Letsgodiving · 23 February 2008, 12:42 PM

Ti is softer that SS. I have never owned one because I don't like how light they feel but from friends of mine that have owned them they tell me they are scratch magnets.

haakon59 · 23 February 2008, 01:00 PM

Titanium is easier to scratch yet is stronger than steel when it comes to withstanding water pressure, etc. Also, Titanium has a slightly "brownish" color. If you are a diver, I would go for Titanium, but if not, my guess is that SS will be easier to maintain and will attract fewer scratches.

Letsgodiving · 23 February 2008, 01:09 PM

I'm not sure I would agree that Ti is stronger than SS. It has a higher strength to weight ratio but I don't think it is any stronger.

As far as diving the strength of SS or Ti is a non-issue. Both are plenty strong for what any of us will ever need.

CPCC · 23 February 2008, 02:38 PM

Tit is stronger

Letsgodiving · 23 February 2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cpcc

Tit is stronger

Again, I would say it has a higher strength to weight ratio compared to SS but I don't believe it is any stronger than SS. If you can refute this please provide references.

mdx77 · 23 February 2008, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cpcc

Tit is stronger

WOW....left or right one?

roadcarver · 23 February 2008, 02:51 PM

My six yr old CA (Ti) had some scratches and a dig, this was removed by the AD service team with no issues.

Any watch when it meets the the edge of the door frame or something hard, will get dinged or scratched up.

boa2 · 25 February 2008, 04:43 AM

FROM WEBSITE RE: WATCHES...

It's strong: Titanium is 30% stronger than steel.

- It's light: Titanium weighs in at 47.90 on the atomic scale, nearly 50% lighter than steel. -It resists corrosion: When exposed to the atmosphere, titanium forms a tight, tenacious oxide film that resists a variety of materials that corrode other metals. It is especially resistant to salt water corrosion.

Here, Ti is stated as being 3x stronger than steel, which its tensile strength will attest to:http://www.galleries.com/minerals/el...m/titanium.htm

Of the 3 Ti watches I've owned, none scratched more easily than steel. Ti does not shine like steel, but it is MUCH lighter.

Letsgodiving · 25 February 2008, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by boa2

FROM WEBSITE RE: WATCHES...

It's strong: Titanium is 30% stronger than steel.

- It's light: Titanium weighs in at 47.90 on the atomic scale, nearly 50% lighter than steel. -It resists corrosion: When exposed to the atmosphere, titanium forms a tight, tenacious oxide film that resists a variety of materials that corrode other metals. It is especially resistant to salt water corrosion.

Here, Ti is stated as being 3x stronger than steel, which its tensile strength will attest to:http://www.galleries.com/minerals/el...m/titanium.htm

Of the 3 Ti watches I've owned, none scratched more easily than steel. Ti does not shine like steel, but it is MUCH lighter.

This article contradicts itself b/c it also states:

"titanium has been shown to be a strong aluminum-like metal; light weight, non-corrosive, able to withstand temperature extremes (especially its high melting point, 1800 degrees C) and it has good strength (as strong as steel and twice as strong as aluminum)."

This article in Industry Week states they have the same strength.

http://www.industryweek.com/ReadArti...CID=KNC-IWTRAF

"For example, in comparing identical size samples, titanium is as strong as steel, but only a little more than half its weight. Titanium is 60% heavier than aluminum, but twice as strong."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium states:

"Commercial (99.2% pure) grades of titanium have ultimate tensile strength of about 63,000 psi (434 MPa), equal to that of some steel alloys, but are 45% lighter.[5]"

Incurable · 25 February 2008, 05:24 AM

'Strong' is a nebulous term...

roadcarver · 25 February 2008, 11:24 AM

Makes you wonder why the SD HEV valve is made of Ti

Letsgodiving · 25 February 2008, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by roadcarver

Makes you wonder why the SD HEV valve is made of Ti

Good question. More corrosion resistant?

boa2 · 25 February 2008, 11:38 AM

http://www.timezone.com/library/arch...04753221240074

One distinction that has to be made is that titanium alloy is what's generally used in the manufacturing of watches, bicycles, etc. So it is difficult to compare the tensile strength of pure titanium to steel with the expectation that it applies to wristwatches, since it doesn't.

In any event, my experience has been that Ti is substantially lighter in weight (I've owned two of the same watches in both Ti & Steel), and has been no more prone to scratches than my steel watches. Just my experience, naturally.

boa2 · 25 February 2008, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Letsgodiving

Good question. More corrosion resistant?

From the same article:
Overall, titanium is superior to stainless steel (SS) in terms of density and corrosion resistance, especially in salt water.

Bingo!

Letsgodiving · 25 February 2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by boa2

From the same article:
Overall, titanium is superior to stainless steel (SS) in terms of density and corrosion resistance, especially in salt water.

Bingo!

Makes sense since this is a valve and if it didn't function properly due to corrosion the crystal could pop off which is never a good thing.

Lol-x · 25 February 2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cpcc

Tit is stronger

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdx77

WOW....left or right one?

Too(ter) funny!

roadcarver · 25 February 2008, 12:48 PM

Could very well be

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letsgodiving

Good question. More corrosion resistant?

Mrdi · 25 February 2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Incurable

'Strong' is a nebulous term...

Nubile is preferred however.

htbilgic · 11 August 2016, 11:32 AM

I have to agree with the comments that titanium looks plastic-like. But it's much lighter than stainless steel.

youthagainsttt · 11 August 2016, 11:43 AM

I've got a Piaget polo 45 and certainly it seems the titanium is easy to scratch even I didn't have noticeable bumps or clashes with anything to cause it

GB-man · 11 August 2016, 02:10 PM

I daily a pelagos and it has held up extremely well. As well if not better than my SDc. It's a watch I virtually never remove for fear of damage and I highly recommend it

21 February 2008, 02:31 PM	#1
Joey_V "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Joey Location: Dallas, TX Watch: SS Sub 16610 M Posts: 3,824	Titanium vs Stainless Steel Hey fellas, Looking to get a beater watch.... what are your opinions regarding Titanium vs SS? Which scratches easier? Which is better for a beater? Thanks again. __________________ Current Rotation: Rolex Submariner Date (M) - 1/08, Rolex Milgauss GV (V) - 2/10, Rolex SS Black Daytona (V) - 6/10, Rolex GMTIIC (G) - 5/11, TAG Heuer Silverstone (286/1860) - 1/2015 Former-watches: Omega PO/2535.80/2254, TAG Carrera/F1x2/Monaco, Panerai 312K/292L Wish List: Panerai 270/505, Rolex SMURF, Rolex RG Daytona, Rolex DSSD

21 February 2008, 08:20 PM	#2
mailman TRF Moderator & DATE-JUST41 2024 Patron Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: . Watch: 126610LN Posts: 35,357	What are you looking for in the watch, other then it being SS or Ti? Also if you don't mind me asking, what's your price range? Maybe we can be a little more helpful. __________________ JJ

21 February 2008, 09:05 PM	#3
pa7el Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Pavel Location: Moscow, RF Watch: 16600 Posts: 30	Titanium vs Steel Titanium is easier to scratc and harder to remove scratches from due to oxide film on titanuim cases. It also looks like plastic IMO. but some will like it is light weight) For durable good look i would go fo brushed SS Good look in search!

23 February 2008, 12:42 PM	#5
Letsgodiving "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Virginia, US Watch: SD 16600 Posts: 4,309	Ti is softer that SS. I have never owned one because I don't like how light they feel but from friends of mine that have owned them they tell me they are scratch magnets. __________________ The fool, with all his other faults, has this also - he is always getting ready to live. - Epicurus (341–270 BC)

23 February 2008, 01:09 PM	#7
Letsgodiving "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Virginia, US Watch: SD 16600 Posts: 4,309	I'm not sure I would agree that Ti is stronger than SS. It has a higher strength to weight ratio but I don't think it is any stronger. As far as diving the strength of SS or Ti is a non-issue. Both are plenty strong for what any of us will ever need. __________________ The fool, with all his other faults, has this also - he is always getting ready to live. - Epicurus (341–270 BC)

23 February 2008, 01:00 PM	#6
haakon59 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,571	Titanium is easier to scratch yet is stronger than steel when it comes to withstanding water pressure, etc. Also, Titanium has a slightly "brownish" color. If you are a diver, I would go for Titanium, but if not, my guess is that SS will be easier to maintain and will attract fewer scratches.

23 February 2008, 02:38 PM	#8
CPCC "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Bill Location: USA Posts: 1,857	Tit is stronger __________________

23 February 2008, 02:51 PM	#11
roadcarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Vernon Location: C-a-n-a-d-a Watch: 16600 Posts: 5,641	My six yr old CA (Ti) had some scratches and a dig, this was removed by the AD service team with no issues. Any watch when it meets the the edge of the door frame or something hard, will get dinged or scratched up. __________________ I'm just a cook...

25 February 2008, 04:43 AM	#12
boa2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Howard Location: US Watch: Me Now Posts: 3,656	FROM WEBSITE RE: WATCHES... It's strong: Titanium is 30% stronger than steel. - It's light: Titanium weighs in at 47.90 on the atomic scale, nearly 50% lighter than steel. -It resists corrosion: When exposed to the atmosphere, titanium forms a tight, tenacious oxide film that resists a variety of materials that corrode other metals. It is especially resistant to salt water corrosion. Here, Ti is stated as being 3x stronger than steel, which its tensile strength will attest to:http://www.galleries.com/minerals/el...m/titanium.htm Of the 3 Ti watches I've owned, none scratched more easily than steel. Ti does not shine like steel, but it is MUCH lighter.

25 February 2008, 05:24 AM	#14
Incurable "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Pat Location: PNW Watch: your P's and Q's Posts: 2,549	'Strong' is a nebulous term... __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 16710 (Blk/Blk) Rolex Explorer 114270 Sinn 356 Sa Flieger Limes Endurance 1Tausend Too many others... #2592 It may seem like I'm doing nothing but, at a cellular level, I'm actually quite busy...

25 February 2008, 11:24 AM	#15
roadcarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Vernon Location: C-a-n-a-d-a Watch: 16600 Posts: 5,641	Makes you wonder why the SD HEV valve is made of Ti __________________ I'm just a cook...

25 February 2008, 11:38 AM	#17
boa2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Howard Location: US Watch: Me Now Posts: 3,656	Here's another article on Titanium http://www.timezone.com/library/arch...04753221240074 One distinction that has to be made is that titanium alloy is what's generally used in the manufacturing of watches, bicycles, etc. So it is difficult to compare the tensile strength of pure titanium to steel with the expectation that it applies to wristwatches, since it doesn't. In any event, my experience has been that Ti is substantially lighter in weight (I've owned two of the same watches in both Ti & Steel), and has been no more prone to scratches than my steel watches. Just my experience, naturally.

11 August 2016, 11:32 AM	#23
htbilgic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Chicago Watch: Doxa Pro 300 NoT Posts: 535	I have to agree with the comments that titanium looks plastic-like. But it's much lighter than stainless steel.

11 August 2016, 11:43 AM	#24
youthagainsttt "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: HK Watch: Piaget,Rolex,AP,HB Posts: 1,038	I've got a Piaget polo 45 and certainly it seems the titanium is easy to scratch even I didn't have noticeable bumps or clashes with anything to cause it

11 August 2016, 02:10 PM	#25
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,856	I daily a pelagos and it has held up extremely well. As well if not better than my SDc. It's a watch I virtually never remove for fear of damage and I highly recommend it

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