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View Poll Results: Which Grand Seiko?
SBGA415 Winter 38 45.78%
SBGA211 Snowflake 45 54.22%
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Old 12 January 2020, 05:40 PM   #1
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First GS - Winter or Snowflake?

Getting ready to purchase my next watch and have decided I’m going the grand seiko route.

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- Ti case and bracelet (will immediately put it on a leather strap though)
- auto wind
- more brushed than polished surfaces if possible
- light dial preferred

This has brought me to the new winter edition which is highly brushed and has the awesome 62GS case and the classic snowflake.
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Old 12 January 2020, 10:16 PM   #2
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I have handled both and would go with the Snowflake.
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Old 12 January 2020, 10:54 PM   #3
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I find the Snowflake casing boring and I don‘t like the hour markers on the Snowflake.
So SBGA4xx for me.

But you should have a look at the 413, the Spring dial is gorgeous!

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Old 12 January 2020, 11:00 PM   #4
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I also find the snoflakes case boring
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Old 12 January 2020, 11:46 PM   #5
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Cannot go wrong either way. I’d say Winter, but that’s ONLY because I’ve already got a Snowflake. Whatever you choose is a win...good problem to have.
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Old 12 January 2020, 11:57 PM   #6
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Spring over winter
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Old 13 January 2020, 12:04 AM   #7
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If Ti, I would go for the greater contrast of the Snowflake, which also, to my eyes, is a nicer dial. I also prefer its case, with its smoother lines: to me, more harmonious with the zen of the Spring Drive.
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Old 13 January 2020, 01:44 AM   #8
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I like the case of the winter better. The dial of the snowflake better. Also consider the spring and the golden snowflake.
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Old 13 January 2020, 05:02 AM   #9
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I own both- snowflake was first, then winter. Would be hard to choose between the two. Snowflake dial and hands pop more, winter is more muted. W regards to the Spring, I handled both and chose winter over spring - liked the gray tones better than the pink tones, and the flatter dial of the winter over the spring dial which at some angles has more reflectivity (similar to the sbga 387, which I owned and sold ).

Have you seen both in person and on yout wrist ? If not, that is the place to start.


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Old 13 January 2020, 01:51 PM   #10
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I find the Snowflake casing boring and I don‘t like the hour markers on the Snowflake.
So SBGA4xx for me.

But you should have a look at the 413, the Spring dial is gorgeous!

That looks great but I definitely prefer the blue second hand on the winter and snowflake. I’ve tried both on and they feel identical on the wrist to me. My only hesitation on the snowflake is the sharply down turned lugs. Wondering how well that will work on a leather strap.
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Old 13 January 2020, 02:05 PM   #11
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That looks great. I’ve tried both on and they feel identical on the wrist to me. My only hesitation on the snowflake is the sharply down turned lugs. Wondering how well that will work on a leather strap.
Mine’s on crocodile, if you want to see how it looks ?
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Old 13 January 2020, 02:21 PM   #12
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Mine’s on crocodile, if you want to see how it looks ?
that would be great thanks!
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Old 13 January 2020, 02:25 PM   #13
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that would be great thanks!
Don’t get excited, the price tag is the strap only
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Old 13 January 2020, 03:58 PM   #14
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Getting ready to purchase my next watch and have decided I’m going the grand seiko route.

Requirements:
- Spring Drive
- Ti case and bracelet (will immediately put it on a leather strap though)
- auto wind
- more brushed than polished surfaces if possible
- light dial preferred

This has brought me to the new winter edition which is highly brushed and has the awesome 62GS case and the classic snowflake.
Maybe consider the Godzilla SBGA405 or SBGA403 as well.
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Old 13 January 2020, 03:59 PM   #15
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Don’t get excited, the price tag is the strap only
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Looks really good. Does it sit up high on the wrist at all?
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Old 13 January 2020, 03:59 PM   #16
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Maybe consider the Godzilla SBGA405 or SBGA403 as well.
That case doesn’t really do it for me. Seems way to chunky. The red on the Godzilla is amazing though.
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Old 13 January 2020, 04:04 PM   #17
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Frankly, I vote neither. This is the 60th anniversary year of GS. They will be doing more interesting things than these watches this year. If you are absolutely compelled to buy one right now, which unless you don't have a watch is a mistake, then go snowflake.

The snowflake is a classic for a reason. If you're going to have something washed out, do it properly with a white dial or at least have a real flash of colour every now and then. The four seasons collection is a bit middling and derivative, as is the 62 case. The winter isn't even the pick of the four seasons.

This is just my opinion folks don't kill me.
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Old 13 January 2020, 04:06 PM   #18
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Looks really good. Does it sit up high on the wrist at all?
It works for me...6.5” wrist
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Old 13 January 2020, 04:07 PM   #19
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That case doesn’t really do it for me. Seems way to chunky. The red on the Godzilla is amazing though.
I can see that.

I agree the dial is phenomenal and think the watch is so good with the casebook print and strap choice. One of their best special editions imho
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Old 13 January 2020, 04:12 PM   #20
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Was that the price of the strap from a Japanese GS boutique?
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Old 13 January 2020, 04:12 PM   #21
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It works for me...6.5” wrist
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That works perfectly with the strap. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 13 January 2020, 04:14 PM   #22
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Frankly, I vote neither. This is the 60th anniversary year of GS. They will be doing more interesting things than these watches this year. If you are absolutely compelled to buy one right now, which unless you don't have a watch is a mistake, then go snowflake.

The snowflake is a classic for a reason. If you're going to have something washed out, do it properly with a white dial or at least have a real flash of colour every now and then. The four seasons collection is a bit middling and derivative, as is the 62 case. The winter isn't even the pick of the four seasons.

This is just my opinion folks don't kill me.
I’ve had this thought in the back of my mind now while shopping. GS always seems to be releasing better and better stuff and they are clearly making a huge effort to expand in North America now. Personally the 44GS case is my absolute favorite but I really like the bezel free aesthetic of the highly brushed 62GS.

Personally find the lighter GS dials more appealing because they don’t rely on a difference in reflection to read really well.
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Old 13 January 2020, 04:17 PM   #23
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Was that the price of the strap from a Japanese GS boutique?
I paid 250 USD from an AD in Japan.
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I’ve had this thought in the back of my mind now while shopping. GS always seems to be releasing better and better stuff and they are clearly making a huge effort to expand in North America now. Personally the 44GS case is my absolute favorite but I really like the bezel free aesthetic of the highly brushed 62GS.

Personally find the lighter GS dials more appealing because they don’t rely on a difference in reflection to read really well.
I think you've answered your own question here. As difficult as it is when you have an itchy trigger finger, wait. I waited more than six months on the kirazuri. These two watches will still be available BNIB at under retail price later in the year, just like the kirazuri was.

There is plenty to come this year. It's life-death-taxes-level certain that there will be something closer to your correct preferences for 44gs spring drive light dial stuff than what you're seeing right now.
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I’ve had this thought in the back of my mind now while shopping. GS always seems to be releasing better and better stuff and they are clearly making a huge effort to expand in North America now. Personally the 44GS case is my absolute favorite but I really like the bezel free aesthetic of the highly brushed 62GS.



Personally find the lighter GS dials more appealing because they don’t rely on a difference in reflection to read really well.


The 62gs case is just so damned sexy.



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I vote Season. I went Spring but Winter is a wonderful choice, too.

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If you can forgo the spring drive the sbgr305 is the business.



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Old 15 January 2020, 04:21 AM   #28
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Thats a great dial but spring drive is an absolute requirement for me in a GS. I honestly believe GS should only build spring drives and quartz watches. The high beat just doesn't interest me.
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Old 15 January 2020, 04:52 AM   #29
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Thats a great dial but spring drive is an absolute requirement for me in a GS. I honestly believe GS should only build spring drives and quartz watches. The high beat just doesn't interest me.


Fair enough cheers. I wish they’d build more high beats lol
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Thats a great dial but spring drive is an absolute requirement for me in a GS. I honestly believe GS should only build spring drives and quartz watches. The high beat just doesn't interest me.
What is it about hi-beat that turns you off?
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