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Old 17 November 2017, 06:08 AM   #31
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Vintage if you've owned it since then. I have looked at many older watches but I want the watch to look close to mint. If not then the stories on the watch aren't mine and if it does, its a shame to put the scratches on now when it's done so well for so long. Thus modern to wear, vintage to own.
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Old 17 November 2017, 08:01 AM   #32
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Pros and cons with both though equally great watches. I am fortunate to have picked up both and rotate them fairly regularly. Would no longer risk the 5513 in water though...no need to take the risk!
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Old 17 November 2017, 08:23 AM   #33
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Old 17 November 2017, 08:29 AM   #34
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Too close to call - both look great
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Old 17 November 2017, 09:58 AM   #35
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“On a similar note, I even prefer the old thin and very lightweight bracelets with folded links over the solid handcuffs that come with current models.”

Hah! Handcuffs. I’m using that...
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Old 17 November 2017, 11:37 AM   #36
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I like durability and comfort. I prefer the new one 114060


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Old 17 November 2017, 01:04 PM   #37
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Vintage all Day! I don't like the WG surrounds on the Modern Subs nor the shiny dial and bezel.
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Old 17 November 2017, 01:11 PM   #38
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I've always preferred applied indices over painted markers, but definitely a tough call. Trying to ignore the inherent value of a nice vintage piece, I probably could be convinced I aesthetically like the modern one more, but it's a very tough call.
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Old 17 November 2017, 02:01 PM   #39
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Modern for me. I like everything about them, not least of which the Glidelock clasp, it's a marvel.
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Old 17 November 2017, 02:42 PM   #40
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Vintage all days for sub.!
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Old 17 November 2017, 07:02 PM   #41
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Was a modern man and owned 3 ceramic subs. However become sick of the glossy ceramic look and “block” case. Going to pickup a 14060 soon I think
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Old 17 November 2017, 07:06 PM   #42
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I like the vintage one, but if I were to pick one, for practical reason I would get the SubC, cause it's going to be my every day watch.
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Old 17 November 2017, 07:30 PM   #43
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I went for the compromise: A 16610LV with LN insert.

Very beautiful, wow!
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Old 17 November 2017, 08:13 PM   #44
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I’m an antique collector but when it comes to watches I will pick a 2020 model if I can. To me the newer the less service, the less messing with the way Cmh, the less polishing and the more “here and now” I know I might be the odd duck here
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Old 17 November 2017, 08:27 PM   #45
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I went for the compromise: A 16610LV with LN insert.

Any no holes 16610 is the sweet spot for me, but that is the super sweet spot!
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Old 17 November 2017, 08:41 PM   #46
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Old 22 November 2017, 05:17 AM   #47
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5513 vs 114060 ?

14060 !
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Old 22 November 2017, 05:58 AM   #48
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I hate to say it because I'm not fond of the 114060 however the newer watch is much more functional and less risky in use than the older.
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Old 8 December 2017, 09:25 AM   #49
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I hate to say it because I'm not fond of the 114060 however the newer watch is much more functional and less risky in use than the older.
I love all vintage. I had a sweet 14060m and started looking for a 5513 and also kept thinking of seeing and trying on a 114060 and when I did it was all over for me, I traded for the Sub C and never looked back.

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Old 8 December 2017, 01:43 PM   #50
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I prefer modern to bang up and vintage to admire. I wouldn’t wear a vintage piece in the pool but anything modern I do without question.
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Old 8 December 2017, 01:52 PM   #51
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I like the overall design of a lot of vintage models over more recent designs but I would always buy modern over vintage for quality of finish, improved materials, better movement, etc.


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Old 8 December 2017, 02:00 PM   #52
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Was just comparing my Kermit with my 116610LN last night. I love the Kermit, but I can't deny the awesomeness of the ceramic bezel and those massive lugs.

So modern for me.
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Old 8 December 2017, 03:48 PM   #53
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To me it's a blessing to own any Rolex Submariner and appreciate each one for what is is. The whole vintage vs. modern comparison makes no sense. I currently own a 5512 and a 5513 Maxi to scratch my vintage itch and a new ceramic Sub (no date) as my daily "beater" as well as a 16613 TT (black dial of course) for more formal wear.
I think I have all bases covered and am quite happy with every reference for varying reasons
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Old 8 December 2017, 08:02 PM   #54
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I like both. The modern Sub with its ceramic bezel is a thing of beauty. Yes, the lugs are a little wide but it doesn't look so bad on the wrist. Its the ultimate Sub incarnation (at least until the next one) - precise and beautifully engineered. I also have a 1977 Sea Dweller "Great White" (part of the Sub family) - yes it rattly, clunky etc but has bags and bags of charm and more character than the modern incarnation with its super dome acrylic crystal and matt dial. Both are beautiful but if I had to chose one I'd keep the vintage.
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Old 9 December 2017, 12:53 AM   #55
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I appreciate the 5513 but prefer the 114060 by a mile. No right or wrong choice, its what you prefer.
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Old 9 December 2017, 02:43 AM   #56
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From these two I'd say 5513.

In general I would choose 5-digits or less references. For maximum useability the 5-digits represent the best balance between moder attributes and classic looks.

I have tried to like the ceramics, but failed every time.....
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Old 9 December 2017, 12:24 PM   #57
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The 5513 was a great watch in its day, but that day is long gone.

As a curiosity piece the 5513 is very collectable as its number dwindle due to its expiry date and that explains its price.

On the other hand, the 114060 is a today watch with modern day refinements in just about every area for continuous daily practical usage, month after month, year after year.

I'd buy both, but the modern day watch is what one would wear.
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Old 9 December 2017, 12:44 PM   #58
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I'd always pick any 5-digit or older Sub over the SubC, which I wouldn't even wear. The Subc is too heavy and aesthetically, uh, questionable, to put it nicely.

The SubC is the first Sub to be designed during the era of ubiquitous dive computer and cell phone usage, and its "look at me" jewelry vibe shows a bit. I think the same can be said of most 6-digit Rolex watches, and it's just not something that interests me. How's that for an opinion?
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Old 9 December 2017, 01:20 PM   #59
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I'd always pick any 5-digit or older Sub over the SubC, which I wouldn't even wear. The Subc is too heavy and aesthetically, uh, questionable, to put it nicely.

The SubC is the first Sub to be designed during the era of ubiquitous dive computer and cell phone usage, and its "look at me" jewelry vibe shows a bit. I think the same can be said of most 6-digit Rolex watches, and it's just not something that interests me. How's that for an opinion?
x2 Another here who wouldn't wear a SubC. I simply do not like them compared to their pre ceramic counterparts. I have tried to love it and I wish I'd have bought several LVCs through some miracle of prior taste before recently having a change of heart.
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Old 11 December 2017, 04:18 PM   #60
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5513 for me. Don't care for the new case
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