Did i bought a fake DJ41 Wimbledon 2018?

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by 123Blueface

Years ago, I bought a DJ and took it to NYC RSC.
They readily inspected it and advised me it was authentic but had an aftermarket dial.
They returned the watch advising me they will never service it and went on my way, free of any charge, all in about a half hour.
As result, I was able to return it and get a full refund.

There are multiple examples like here:
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=679306

[Yzord]

Originally Posted by OysterBracelet

Good luck, but I'm afraid you are wasting your time.

That could be indeed the case and maybe it isn't needed after all. But i appreciate their willingness to help me when we are here in doubt.

But several people told me in this topic that the pictures i had in the OP were looking ok as far as their knowledge reaches. So i have trust it will be all ok.

[OysterBracelet]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

There are multiple examples like here:
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=679306

Neither of those examples are authentications - they are watches being rejected for service

[Yzord]

Originally Posted by OysterBracelet

Neither of those examples are authentications - they are watches being rejected for service

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=205893

[antrolexsub]

Originally Posted by OysterBracelet

The AD's 'authentication' is worth precisely 0. They have no means of checking the serial or movement numbers, nor have sufficient knowledge to visually authenticate.

My only hope is that you aren't paying them anything for this privilege.

Good luck, but I'm afraid you are wasting your time.

You’re spot on.

[OysterBracelet]

Originally Posted by Yzord

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=205893

That was 8 years ago. They won't do it now.

Off the top of my head, only RSC Toronto offers true 'authentication' and an RSC in the far east - Hong Kong or Singapore maybe?

[Yzord]

Originally Posted by OysterBracelet

That was 8 years ago. They won't do it now.

Off the top of my head, only RSC Toronto offers true 'authentication' and an RSC in the far east - Hong Kong or Singapore maybe?

Strange:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...6&postcount=12

Read the last line of the invoice.

[OysterBracelet]

Originally Posted by Yzord

Strange:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...6&postcount=12

Read the last line of the invoice.

What's strange? You've just proved my point.

[Yzord]

Originally Posted by OysterBracelet

What's strange? You've just proved my point.

Lol, you are right, sorry.

I also stop this discussion. It is hardly related anymore with this topic. Thanks for the discussion though :)

[OysterBracelet]

Originally Posted by Yzord

Lol, you are right, sorry.

I also stop this discussion. It is hardly related anymore with this topic. Thanks for the discussion though :)

Good luck - I hope it's a good one

[Yzord]

Originally Posted by OysterBracelet

Good luck - I hope it's a good one

Thanks...tomorrow will be the day

[123Blueface]

Originally Posted by OysterBracelet

That was 8 years ago. They won't do it now.

Off the top of my head, only RSC Toronto offers true 'authentication' and an RSC in the far east - Hong Kong or Singapore maybe?

Boy you are stubborn.
Didn’t ask me when my experience was.
So, if OP brings his watch to Rolex and tells them it’s running fast, they won’t accept it, inspect it, determine its authentic before proceeding with a warranty check on it?

Wow.

[kohe321]

Of course, any work done to the watch by a RSC is a de facto authentication. They won't work on the watch if it isn't 100% genuine, and their methods for authenticating are incredibly thorough from what I gather. Rolex spends a lot of resources to stay several steps ahead of the scum that is the fake industry.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by kohe321

Of course, any work done to the watch by a RSC is a de facto authentication. They won't work on the watch if it isn't 100% genuine, and their methods for authenticating are incredibly thorough from what I gather. Rolex spends a lot of resources to stay several steps ahead of the scum that is the fake industry.

Indeed - Rolex have now told any approved repair centers (Not Rolex RSC) that if they repair or service a Rolex that contains after market parts they will lose their approved status!

So just sending a ROLEX fore service or repair will get a thorough check and an estimate before continuing.

I have firm examples of someone taking their "suspect" Rolex into an RSC in GERMANY.
They could not go into actual service area - so Rolex technicians took photos and sent them to the persons mobile.

These are facts NOT myths!

I am not saying every RSC will help, nor are they abide to do so, but most will help, and putting the watch in for service will get a full blown authentication.
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[kohe321]

Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

I have firm examples of someone taking their "suspect" Rolex into an RSC in GERMANY.
They could not go into actual service area - so Rolex technicians took photos and sent them to the persons mobile.

That's interesting, and it makes complete sense that they don't want any replica watch or parts to even enter the main servicing area, but rather keep it "hermetically sealed" in that regard.

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by kohe321

That's interesting, and it makes complete sense that they don't want any replica watch or parts to even enter the main servicing area, but rather keep it "hermetically sealed" in that regard.

And I have the photos from ROLEX AD MUNICH, with his name and title - "atelier xxxxxxxx Munich"

But hell, what would a Rolex trained watchmaker know??
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[Phrank]

Originally Posted by OysterBracelet

That was 8 years ago. They won't do it now.

Off the top of my head, only RSC Toronto offers true 'authentication' and an RSC in the far east - Hong Kong or Singapore maybe?

Yes, when I brought my 18238 and 16613lb in for service last February (in Toronto), receptionist did all the paperwork, then brought my watches to the back. Ten minutes later, technician came out with my watches, minus bracelet, caseback opened up, told me the watches were in great shape, then asked me what I wanted done and *not* done.

He was impressed with how well the watches had been treated, as many times he has to come out and explain to a customer that his Rolex is in fact, "Not a Rolex".

I asked if they would authenticate a watch if I brought it in, and he said yes.

I gathered from the exchange, reason he comes out and asks, is that it is not infrequent people come in with what they think are legit watches and they're not...

[RolexFan007]

Simple. When you get the watch take it to RSC near you and if its all good release the Chrono24 or else send the watch back...

[Yzord]

Ok, i have the watch. When i try to set the time and wind the crown upwards the hands are going backwards instead of clockwise :(

I don't think a 3235 movement would do such thing. Anyone?

EDIT: apparantly the 3235 movements is a counterclockwise one. Called an AD and they confirmed

[GLADIATOR]

The 3255 is acting correctly.
No issue there.
It’s correct

[GLADIATOR]

Originally Posted by Yzord

Ok, i have the watch. When i try to set the time and wind the crown upwards the hands are going backwards instead of clockwise :(

I don't think a 3235 movement would do such thing. Anyone?

EDIT: apparantly the 3235 movements is a counterclockwise one. Called an AD and they confirmed

I think, Its going to be genuine.
Want to pass me the serial number