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Old 10 December 2022, 08:04 PM   #61
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AP make a huge mistake in my humble opinion….
They do a big step when decide to close all retailers and keep only his Boutiques…..
Then in this hype sell 50 Anniversary to very much customers who in the end shows there are only flippers….. yes you could afford to lose money on a CODE if you received an RO anniversary who you sell with higher profit….
So, look how the things looks now, Chrono24 are full of 15510, 26240 50 anniversary and the price it’s going down and down…… see some 15510 50 anniversary there are more cheaper then RO 15500….
In this condition 50 anniversary who was supposed to be for the AP funs or AP lovers are ending on grey market….
If AP don’t wake up soon and change policy then the price will come below retail in the near future…..
I see someone compare with Patek, I am not Nautilus fun but I must admit that when Patek say it’s the last green itinerary of 5711 after one year stop production…..
From what I understand green AP will be in production in the future so nothing special….
Just my 2 cents
Respectfully, I have to say, if you think AP would have solved the problems you mentioned by sticking with retailers, then I think you are sorely mistakened. Where I’m from, big time ADs are impenetrable unless you’re willing to spend loads on other brands; ADs could care less about your horological interests, just about how much slow moving inventory you take off their hands. There’s no perfect system, but I’d take AP’s boutique construct anytime of the day. Part of the reason I have huge respect for FHB.
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Old 10 December 2022, 08:04 PM   #62
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Going to subjectively and politefully disagree. The launch of the new dark green dial RO/ROC is an incredible new dial. Jumbo skeleton? Yes please. Code Star Wheel. Incredible, I actually want to own a code now. Ceramic ROC. Yes Please. Red QP. HELL YES. Blue Ceramic QP. New and unique. YG Jumbo with burnt dial. Yes Please. New dimple dial tourbs. Amazing. What are we talking about here. Sorry, AP crushed it this year, one of the best years for them in a LONG time. Do we lack so much altruism that we can't share a silly 50th rotor with someone who is new and appreciates the brand? We should be welcoming newcomers to the brand, not hoarding all things because we are long time clientele of the brand.
As always 7sins, well said.
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Old 12 December 2022, 05:18 PM   #63
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hmmm I have not heard a single story about ANYONE getting an aquanaut by just waiting. Almost everyone I know has a significant spend history with Patek. On the other hand with AP it seems quite a few people have had ROs as their first watch.
That's what I've been told by my colleagues. Of course, I've also heard stories about people buying 1 woman's PP watch -> being called to view a calatrava -> then being offered a 5712G on the spot (London Bond Street). Guess PP works in mysterious ways as well.
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Old 12 December 2022, 11:42 PM   #64
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Are allocations improving at Boutiques?

Edit: just realized this is the AP thread lol I had a Patek rant. Deleted.
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Old 14 December 2022, 01:49 AM   #65
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Edit: just realized this is the AP thread lol I had a Patek rant. Deleted.
I hope we get to read it on another Patek thread then
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Old 14 December 2022, 03:38 AM   #66
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Edit: just realized this is the AP thread lol I had a Patek rant. Deleted.

Patek retail location is where all watch enthusiasm goes to die.

I’m happy with AP! I prefer their designs and I don’t have to buy 3 leather strap dress watches I don’t want just to possibly get a aquanaut - hard pass!
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Old 14 December 2022, 04:03 AM   #67
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Patek retail location is where all watch enthusiasm goes to die.

I’m happy with AP! I prefer their designs and I don’t have to buy 3 leather strap dress watches I don’t want just to possibly get a aquanaut - hard pass!
I’m told it’s still very, very difficult — if not impossible to get an aquanaut from an AP boutique! sorry….so day over here.
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Old 14 December 2022, 05:06 AM   #68
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Patek retail location is where all watch enthusiasm goes to die.

I’m happy with AP! I prefer their designs and I don’t have to buy 3 leather strap dress watches I don’t want just to possibly get a aquanaut - hard pass!
Couldn't disagree with you more!
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Old 14 December 2022, 10:14 AM   #69
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Couldn't disagree with you more!
AP win because of Patek scarcity. Because many of the watch lovers discover AP when waiting for Patek Aquanaut or Nautilus. Many people will not play any more Patek games…
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Old 14 December 2022, 12:41 PM   #70
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It's definitely becoming easier. In the past two months I had the call for ROO blue diver, ROO Music Edition and ROC. Rejected them all...
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Old 14 December 2022, 02:06 PM   #71
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It's definitely becoming easier. In the past two months I had the call for ROO blue diver, ROO Music Edition and ROC. Rejected them all...

Which ROC and what are you waiting for?


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Old 14 December 2022, 02:12 PM   #72
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I only buy three handers, preferably without a date (that's why I was interested in the ROO Music Edition, but changed my mind). Waiting for a RO white dial, should be either by the end of December, otherwise January 2023. Will be the 15510 without the 50th anniversary rotor, which I prefer.

ROC black dial.
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Old 14 December 2022, 02:24 PM   #73
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It's definitely becoming easier. In the past two months I had the call for ROO blue diver, ROO Music Edition and ROC. Rejected them all...
Have you established relationship with prior purchases?
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Old 14 December 2022, 02:36 PM   #74
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Have you established relationship with prior purchases?
Yup... Nice guy, see him more as a friend. I go drinking now and then with him.
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Old 14 December 2022, 02:56 PM   #75
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From nothing for two years, I was offered two women's’ royal oaks in the space of the last 10 days. Declined the first, bought the second.
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Old 14 December 2022, 03:23 PM   #76
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From nothing for two years, I was offered two women's’ royal oaks in the space of the last 10 days. Declined the first, bought the second.
which model that you declined
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Old 14 December 2022, 06:58 PM   #77
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Old 16 December 2022, 11:38 AM   #78
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AP win because of Patek scarcity. Because many of the watch lovers discover AP when waiting for Patek Aquanaut or Nautilus. Many people will not play any more Patek games…
Your mileage may vary.

I've had to play wayyyyyyy less games with Patek and actually feel appreciated by them, compared to AP. But, guess in both cases ultimately depends on your points of sale / contacts.
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Old 6 January 2023, 04:56 PM   #79
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Just visited AP here in HK...

I'm interested in a few pieces, and according to my contacts at AP, they will allocate one to me by Feb/March, which is great.

I wanted to see the CODE Starwheel, but they didn't have a display model available. Will go to AP House next week. If I want one, I'm first line (as a CODE owner, at least that's what AP told me), which is good news. Have to see it in person before I can put it on my 'Wishlist'.
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Old 6 January 2023, 11:10 PM   #80
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From nothing for two years, I was offered two women's’ royal oaks in the space of the last 10 days. Declined the first, bought the second.
Things are slowing when I get offered something.. However Still waiting
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Old 6 January 2023, 11:15 PM   #81
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I refuse to give money to the greys. I don't see getting the call until things cool off--in another 2 years probably
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Old 6 January 2023, 11:48 PM   #82
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I refuse to give money to the greys. I don't see getting the call until things cool off--in another 2 years probably
Cooling off as we speak. I think in 2 years, unless something major happens, economy will be hot again.
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Old 9 January 2023, 04:28 PM   #83
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Just visited AP here in HK...

I'm interested in a few pieces, and according to my contacts at AP, they will allocate one to me by Feb/March, which is great.

I wanted to see the CODE Starwheel, but they didn't have a display model available. Will go to AP House next week. If I want one, I'm first line (as a CODE owner, at least that's what AP told me), which is good news. Have to see it in person before I can put it on my 'Wishlist'.
at least they're giving you a clear timeline - that's great.
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Old 10 January 2023, 05:01 AM   #84
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Cooling off as we speak. I think in 2 years, unless something major happens, economy will be hot again.
I think this is the year to get a watch if you've been on the waiting list. 2024 and beyond I think you see grey market prices well above retail and waitlists at boutiques to be steady.
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Old 16 January 2023, 01:22 AM   #85
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But here’s my gripe with Patek. They shut down ADs too rapidly, and left those clients in the cold. I’m freezing!! SF/Bay Area guys won’t believe in Santa no more.

The only “safe” bet for Patek… is Tiffany’s. Till Patek erects their own boutiques, I guess.


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