To my U.K. TRF brethren, can you explain meghanexit?

[TheVTCGuy]

Just casually following this story in the news but I don’t understand what the heck is going on. So the Prince and Princess have asked to be removed from the Royal family? What does that mean? I have read suggestions that there was sever tension between the Queen and other members because the Prince married a bi-racial American, and they were never accepted in to the family, hence the request by the couple.

Is this true?

[Beo3]

Paul - I think that it may have something to do with him being a rotorhead, and not a fixed wing guy....\

LOL!

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by Beo3

Paul - I think that it may have something to do with him being a rotorhead, and not a fixed wing guy....\

LOL!

You could be right Eddie

[Cloudchaser]

I don't speak UK but, I can do my best American:

Buddy of mine married into a family that hated him from day one. The wife decided after a couple of years that the best way to fix the problem would be to move closer to her family, both for the family help and because "getting to know you will help them love you."

Within six months of the move, she had filed for divorce and moved into a new house, where she lives with her parents and kids and he pays all the bills.

My buddy lives back in his hometown now; he couldn't quite make his unique skill set work anywhere else. The more I have talked to people about his story, the more common it seems to be. Who'd have thunk it? Classic American tale, I guess...

Slightly different situations, of course, so I'm sure the UK couple is just fine.

[Zakalwe]

Harry has always had a strained relationship with the media stemming from his mother's death. He also seems to be the most "normal" out of a family of people a number of whom are eccentric, out of touch beyond belief and thicker than constipated bowel movements.

His marriage to a mixed race American of all people has brought more press scrutiny than ever and now he has an excuse to get away from the whole weird setup.

BTW I think the technical term is Megxit

[envuks]

I am an American, but here is what I heard:

In exchange for their royal duties, members of the royal family receive a stipend from the queen. For Harry and Meghan, this is $5m annually (unclear on if that’s 5m each or combined).

They will be giving up that stipend and no longer participate in their royal duties (public appearances, events, etc).

[Token74]

It’s all a bit of a fuss about nothing.

Everyone loved Harry. We all felt sorry for him as a lad following his mothers coffin in the public eye, and that created a bond with the British people.

Harry then turned into a bit of a lad, did stuff that royals aren’t supposed to do, and was a bit of a ladies man.

Harry then did military service and saw action, firmly establishing himself as favourite royal. To add to that he did a bunch of stuff like the Invictus games. His stock could not have been higher.

Then he met Meghan. And that was good. We liked Suits. Meghan was nice and attractive. So we liked Meghan.

But...the British Press are a nasty bunch, and they love to tell a story. Harry hates the press following the blame apportioned to them for Diana’s death. And whilst the bloodline to King will largely be left alone, the brother of the the to-be king is fair game.

The press then tore into Meghan about her treatment of her father. And every headline had a negative bias. Unfortunately, over here, that sells papers.

Harry and Meghan have had a Royal strop and want to go from being major royals to minor royals (fewer duties. Fewer constraints, less cash). Something like that anyway.

There are now two sides to the British public on this, it seems to be the way we operate now over here, nobody can be in the middle, must be extreme.

Side one. British press are a disgrace and racist, and the royal family don’t like Meghan because they too are racist.

Side two. Harry and Meghan want their cake and eat it. They want to be partially funded by the tax payer whilst selling themselves for commercial gain.

So...take your pick.

Personally, I can see both sides. I would however say that I don’t like the way people are using the race card. This exact same things happened to Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson. Hard to believe now, but Prince Andrew was once the one everyone liked. Good looking man when younger, ladies man (known as randy Andy), served in the military (falklands I think).

All a bit rushed and on my phone, sorry. But hopefully you get the gist.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Bluside]

Originally Posted by Token74

It’s all a bit of a fuss about nothing.

Everyone loved Harry. We all felt sorry for him as a lad following his mothers coffin in the public eye, and that created a bond with the British people.

Harry then turned into a bit of a lad, did stuff that royals aren’t supposed to do, and was a bit of a ladies man.

Harry then did military service and saw action, firmly establishing himself as favourite royal. To add to that he did a bunch of stuff like the Invictus games. His stock could not have been higher.

Then he met Meghan. And that was good. We liked Suits. Meghan was nice and attractive. So we liked Meghan.

But...the British Press are a nasty bunch, and they love to tell a story. Harry hates the press following the blame apportioned to them for Diana’s death. And whilst the bloodline to King will largely be left alone, the brother of the the to-be king is fair game.

The press then tore into Meghan about her treatment of her father. And every headline had a negative bias. Unfortunately, over here, that sells papers.

Harry and Meghan have had a Royal strop and want to go from being major royals to minor royals (fewer duties. Fewer constraints, less cash). Something like that anyway.

There are now two sides to the British public on this, it seems to be the way we operate now over here, nobody can be in the middle, must be extreme.

Side one. British press are a disgrace and racist, and the royal family don’t like Meghan because they too are racist.

Side two. Harry and Meghan want their cake and eat it. They want to be partially funded by the tax payer whilst selling themselves for commercial gain.

So...take your pick.

Personally, I can see both sides. I would however say that I don’t like the way people are using the race card. This exact same things happened to Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson. Hard to believe now, but Prince Andrew was once the one everyone liked. Good looking man when younger, ladies man (known as randy Andy), served in the military (falklands I think).

All a bit rushed and on my phone, sorry. But hopefully you get the gist.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Nice post. Thanks.

[tudorbaja27]

Originally Posted by Token74

It’s all a bit of a fuss about nothing.

Everyone loved Harry. We all felt sorry for him as a lad following his mothers coffin in the public eye, and that created a bond with the British people.

Harry then turned into a bit of a lad, did stuff that royals aren’t supposed to do, and was a bit of a ladies man.

Harry then did military service and saw action, firmly establishing himself as favourite royal. To add to that he did a bunch of stuff like the Invictus games. His stock could not have been higher.

Then he met Meghan. And that was good. We liked Suits. Meghan was nice and attractive. So we liked Meghan.

But...the British Press are a nasty bunch, and they love to tell a story. Harry hates the press following the blame apportioned to them for Diana’s death. And whilst the bloodline to King will largely be left alone, the brother of the the to-be king is fair game.

The press then tore into Meghan about her treatment of her father. And every headline had a negative bias. Unfortunately, over here, that sells papers.

Harry and Meghan have had a Royal strop and want to go from being major royals to minor royals (fewer duties. Fewer constraints, less cash). Something like that anyway.

There are now two sides to the British public on this, it seems to be the way we operate now over here, nobody can be in the middle, must be extreme.

Side one. British press are a disgrace and racist, and the royal family don’t like Meghan because they too are racist.

Side two. Harry and Meghan want their cake and eat it. They want to be partially funded by the tax payer whilst selling themselves for commercial gain.

So...take your pick.

Personally, I can see both sides. I would however say that I don’t like the way people are using the race card. This exact same things happened to Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson. Hard to believe now, but Prince Andrew was once the one everyone liked. Good looking man when younger, ladies man (known as randy Andy), served in the military (falklands I think).

All a bit rushed and on my phone, sorry. But hopefully you get the gist.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks!

[AzPaul]

Originally Posted by Token74

It’s all a bit of a fuss about nothing.

Everyone loved Harry. We all felt sorry for him as a lad following his mothers coffin in the public eye, and that created a bond with the British people.

Harry then turned into a bit of a lad, did stuff that royals aren’t supposed to do, and was a bit of a ladies man.

Harry then did military service and saw action, firmly establishing himself as favourite royal. To add to that he did a bunch of stuff like the Invictus games. His stock could not have been higher.

Then he met Meghan. And that was good. We liked Suits. Meghan was nice and attractive. So we liked Meghan.

But...the British Press are a nasty bunch, and they love to tell a story. Harry hates the press following the blame apportioned to them for Diana’s death. And whilst the bloodline to King will largely be left alone, the brother of the the to-be king is fair game.

The press then tore into Meghan about her treatment of her father. And every headline had a negative bias. Unfortunately, over here, that sells papers.

Harry and Meghan have had a Royal strop and want to go from being major royals to minor royals (fewer duties. Fewer constraints, less cash). Something like that anyway.

There are now two sides to the British public on this, it seems to be the way we operate now over here, nobody can be in the middle, must be extreme.

Side one. British press are a disgrace and racist, and the royal family don’t like Meghan because they too are racist.

Side two. Harry and Meghan want their cake and eat it. They want to be partially funded by the tax payer whilst selling themselves for commercial gain.

So...take your pick.

Personally, I can see both sides. I would however say that I don’t like the way people are using the race card. This exact same things happened to Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson. Hard to believe now, but Prince Andrew was once the one everyone liked. Good looking man when younger, ladies man (known as randy Andy), served in the military (falklands I think).

All a bit rushed and on my phone, sorry. But hopefully you get the gist.

Thanks for this. I was curious, but not to the point of finding out on my own.

[dauster]

Originally Posted by Token74

It’s all a bit of a fuss about nothing.

Everyone loved Harry. We all felt sorry for him as a lad following his mothers coffin in the public eye, and that created a bond with the British people.

Harry then turned into a bit of a lad, did stuff that royals aren’t supposed to do, and was a bit of a ladies man.

Harry then did military service and saw action, firmly establishing himself as favourite royal. To add to that he did a bunch of stuff like the Invictus games. His stock could not have been higher.

Then he met Meghan. And that was good. We liked Suits. Meghan was nice and attractive. So we liked Meghan.

But...the British Press are a nasty bunch, and they love to tell a story. Harry hates the press following the blame apportioned to them for Diana’s death. And whilst the bloodline to King will largely be left alone, the brother of the the to-be king is fair game.

The press then tore into Meghan about her treatment of her father. And every headline had a negative bias. Unfortunately, over here, that sells papers.

Harry and Meghan have had a Royal strop and want to go from being major royals to minor royals (fewer duties. Fewer constraints, less cash). Something like that anyway.

There are now two sides to the British public on this, it seems to be the way we operate now over here, nobody can be in the middle, must be extreme.

Great post and fun read thx for sharing. As a German living on the west coast I’m a it detached from good ol Europe

[Pw92676]

Originally Posted by Token74

It’s all a bit of a fuss about nothing.

Everyone loved Harry. We all felt sorry for him as a lad following his mothers coffin in the public eye, and that created a bond with the British people.

Harry then turned into a bit of a lad, did stuff that royals aren’t supposed to do, and was a bit of a ladies man.

Harry then did military service and saw action, firmly establishing himself as favourite royal. To add to that he did a bunch of stuff like the Invictus games. His stock could not have been higher.

Then he met Meghan. And that was good. We liked Suits. Meghan was nice and attractive. So we liked Meghan.

But...the British Press are a nasty bunch, and they love to tell a story. Harry hates the press following the blame apportioned to them for Diana’s death. And whilst the bloodline to King will largely be left alone, the brother of the the to-be king is fair game.

The press then tore into Meghan about her treatment of her father. And every headline had a negative bias. Unfortunately, over here, that sells papers.

Harry and Meghan have had a Royal strop and want to go from being major royals to minor royals (fewer duties. Fewer constraints, less cash). Something like that anyway.

There are now two sides to the British public on this, it seems to be the way we operate now over here, nobody can be in the middle, must be extreme.

Side one. British press are a disgrace and racist, and the royal family don’t like Meghan because they too are racist.

Side two. Harry and Meghan want their cake and eat it. They want to be partially funded by the tax payer whilst selling themselves for commercial gain.

So...take your pick.

Personally, I can see both sides. I would however say that I don’t like the way people are using the race card. This exact same things happened to Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson. Hard to believe now, but Prince Andrew was once the one everyone liked. Good looking man when younger, ladies man (known as randy Andy), served in the military (falklands I think).

All a bit rushed and on my phone, sorry. But hopefully you get the gist.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

This is quite nice journalism. Thanks for sharing.

[THC]

Careful, everyone ... lol

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by THC

Careful, everyone ... lol

Good point, though shouldn't the castle, like many in Europe, be made into a public museum so their citizens who paid for it get to enjoy it. Just seems weird that just because you are born into a family means you get preferential treatment in this day and age. Have enjoyed visiting many castles owned by 'rulers', and they're wonderful. Perhaps it's time England does the same as many other EU countries.

[Zakalwe]

I’m not sure I buy the racism angle either (aside from Phil the Greek, natch). Of course it’s possible especially as a lot of folk of the Queen’s generation can be unwittingly prejudiced but there’s no evidence for it. Also Liz isn’t stupid enough to ever let her facade slip to anybody who would tell tales.

It’s far more likely that Meghan is looked down on for being a commoner i.e. not a chinless, gormless member of the aristocracy.

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Good point, though shouldn't the castle, like many in Europe, be made into a public museum so their citizens who paid for it get to enjoy it.

They’ve got quite a few castles

The biggest one, Windsor, is open to the public. Buckingham Palace is also partially available to tour.

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

They’ve got quite a few castles

The biggest one, Windsor, is open to the public. Buckingham Palace is also partially available to tour.

Excellent point and yes as a youth toured a few, saw the Royal jewelry, etc. Sure the family members have 'a job' at visiting British companies and do the whole 'royal thing', yet perhaps it is time to slowly migrate away from that to a more modern society. No one voted them in as Royals or anything like that.

A nice solution would be to have citizens of England put it up for vote to continue, or to slowly migrate away and hand everything back to the people who paid for it all.

Am truly happy that the couple are choosing each other over continuing what i see as very outdated ways. Many countries have long moved away from such a structure.

[The Joker]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

A nice solution would be to have citizens of England put it up for vote to continue, or to slowly migrate away and hand everything back to the people who paid for it all.

The Queen has had a perfect reign, the royal family are very popular in the UK and would vote overwhelmingly to keep them, but it wouldn't take a lot for the public to turn, that's why it doesn't need any more upheaval.

[Doc Savage]

Originally Posted by Zakalwe

...They’ve got quite a few castles

The biggest one, Windsor, is open to the public. Buckingham Palace is also partially available to tour.

I visited Warwick Castle in 1988 on a trip from the Colonies. Locked our keys in the rental and borrowed a wire hanger from a Castle Guard to break back into the car. My buddy took a picture of the whole crazy event.

Originally Posted by Chewbacca

...
The Queen is clever. She knows how to manage this and Charles was going to cull the paid roles anyway when he's King...

I keep thinking the Queen will outlive Charles...

[Blansky]

The French got it right.

There are ways to deal with all that blue blood stuff.

Hey look, it's not really blue.

[rootbeer7]

Here’s my theory:
William was naughty. Meghan hung out to dry to divert press. Harry unhappy. Threatens to reveal who his Dad really is. Queen panics. Sends them fully-paid anywhere they like.

[The Joker]

Megan can't take the scrutiny which comes with the territory marrying into the royal family, she would of been warned.

With the royal family you are either in or out, you toe the line and do your duty or you're out.

Watch the crown, it's fantastic.

[Zakalwe]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

Excellent point and yes as a youth toured a few, saw the Royal jewelry, etc. Sure the family members have 'a job' at visiting British companies and do the whole 'royal thing', yet perhaps it is time to slowly migrate away from that to a more modern society. No one voted them in as Royals or anything like that.

A nice solution would be to have citizens of England put it up for vote to continue, or to slowly migrate away and hand everything back to the people who paid for it all.

Am truly happy that the couple are choosing each other over continuing what i see as very outdated ways. Many countries have long moved away from such a structure.

If I agree with you as vehemently as I want the thread might go down the pan. But The Joker is correct, there would only be one winner in a vote.

[enjoythemusic]

Good points, I'll bow out. Thanks for being patient with me.

[daveathall]

[Chewbacca]

There's you answer Paul!

Fwiw, I think this is was all brilliantly timed and planned on H&M's part well before the wedding. If it was a traditional business move, it would be a solid case study on strategy.

It's also a win for the full time Royals if you take a step back and see the mutual benefits and opportunities.

The Queen is clever. She knows how to manage this and Charles was going to cull the paid roles anyway when he's King.

Kudos to all.

[Brew]

Try as I might, I can't seem to muster the energy to give a hoot. Best wishes to the couple and their family.

[SpeakWithMichael]

Originally Posted by Brew

Try as I might, I can't seem to muster the energy to give a hoot. Best wishes to the couple and their family.

This.

[SMD]

I found this interesting:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...tandards-royal

The Danny Baker thing was, um, something. If you don't know you are better off.

[AzPaul]

Originally Posted by SMD

I found this interesting:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...tandards-royal

The Danny Baker thing was, um, something. If you don't know you are better off.

Here in the US, we're lucky the press is unbiased and would never play favorites.

[Cesium137]

Originally Posted by AzPaul

Here in the US, we're lucky the press is unbiased and would never play favorites.