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Old 2 July 2020, 06:33 AM   #91
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there is not a single watch i know of with a date window at 4:23 that i would like to have on my wrist.
The date window placement between 4 and 5 is a dealbreaker for some (not just on this watch). It’s not that big of a deal to others. For what it’s worth, I think it’s executed very well on the 11.59, maybe better than any other 4:23 date I’ve seen.

It’s definitely not the one thing that keeps me from buying this watch.

The new dials are a big improvement. Surprised it took AP 18 months to come out with these.
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Old 2 July 2020, 08:59 AM   #92
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These new ones are certainly putting more make-up on it, still wouldn't want to wake up next to them tho...
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Old 2 July 2020, 09:22 AM   #93
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Here is the new one
Would look much better without the date, IMO....
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Old 2 July 2020, 09:36 AM   #94
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These new ones are certainly putting more make-up on it, still wouldn't want to wake up next to them tho...

Ooh, I would.
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Old 2 July 2020, 11:38 AM   #95
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It’s definitely not the one thing that keeps me from buying this watch.



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This I agree with
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Old 2 July 2020, 12:19 PM   #96
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Moser x Michael Kors is all I see from those new dials
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Old 2 July 2020, 12:46 PM   #97
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Moser x Michael Kors is all I see from those new dials
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Old 2 July 2020, 01:32 PM   #98
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This line need a dial change. Not dial color change.
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Old 2 July 2020, 03:56 PM   #99
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Would look much better without the date, IMO....
Like this then?

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Old 2 July 2020, 05:07 PM   #100
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AP could certainly sell me more watches if they ditched the date at 4.30 thing. Either offer a no-date option or find a neater way of including it. Would definitely buy a ROC without a date and would be much more inclined to buy a Code.
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Old 2 July 2020, 06:46 PM   #101
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Maybe it's too simple, but removing those futuristic numerals at 3, 6, 9 and 12 would also improve it imho. Perhaps they could have added the AP logo either at 12 o'clock or above 6 o'clock.

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Old 3 July 2020, 12:25 AM   #102
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Maybe it's too simple, but removing those futuristic numerals at 3, 6, 9 and 12 would also improve it imho. Perhaps they could have added the AP logo either at 12 o'clock or above 6 o'clock.

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Oh man... YES. I've been saying the smartwatch looking numerals are a big part of the problem and this proves it. If they dumped the numerals and gave us a textured dial with a tapisserie like pattern, I would seriously consider having one.
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Old 3 July 2020, 12:05 PM   #103
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Code 11.59

I am in the minority here but I have always been skeptical, especially reading reviews.
Once I put one on my wrist, I really liked the Code!

It is, however, not an “AP experience” and I decided to keep it.
If the same exact piece was made by a different company, maybe we wouldn’t hate it because it is so not the AP DNA.

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Old 3 July 2020, 12:10 PM   #104
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I completely agree.

I'd like the CODE 11.59 if

1) It wasn't an AP.
2) Wasn't priced like an AP.
3) Wasn't called "CODE 11.59"

If those three were true, it's actually a really solid watch. The case, the curves, the movement.
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Old 3 July 2020, 04:45 PM   #105
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Tried the new code 11.59 at the AP boutique. Its absolutely as bad as anyone made it out to be. I have never seen a watch that expensive look that cheap on the wrist. Here is a pic.



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Couldn’t agree more. Tried one the other day and couldn’t bring myself to be honest with the AD about how terrible it was. Talk about a mistake from AP
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Old 3 July 2020, 08:55 PM   #106
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Ooh, I would.
Let's stick to watch talk shall we.
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Old 3 July 2020, 10:15 PM   #107
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Let's stick to watch talk shall we.

Honestly, I’m not interested in purchasing a Code 11.59, but the watch has interesting design elements and excellent craftsmanship. I’d love to have one to hold and admire. The problem is I don’t see myself wearing one in my day-to-day lifestyle.

Pre-/Post-Covid lifestyle, I mean. No one sees my watches these days.

I do want to pick up a nice gold watch at some point, but would likely pick up an H. Moser over any future incarnation of the Code line.
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Old 3 July 2020, 10:17 PM   #108
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New CODEs. Much better disks and really liking the chrono. There’s a white / RG chrono too but haven’t seen official photos yet




Edit more photos and bunch of colors. Can’t side with the purple and red...




Wow, these new combinations are quite unique. I am really liking these, especially the two tones!


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Old 3 July 2020, 10:50 PM   #109
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At least it provided this funny meme


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Old 3 July 2020, 11:00 PM   #110
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Old 3 July 2020, 11:27 PM   #111
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Agreed. There are a number of design missteps with this line, but the most glaring to me is the choice of font

I too dislike the fonts but I recently learned the inspiration for the exact same font designs came from their archives and actually goes back many many years


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Old 4 July 2020, 01:30 AM   #112
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The new line of CODE is really nice.
I’d wear the red/purple ones any day of the week.
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Old 4 July 2020, 09:00 AM   #113
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I am in the minority here but I have always been skeptical, especially reading reviews.
Once I put one on my wrist, I really liked the Code!

It is, however, not an “AP experience” and I decided to keep it.
If the same exact piece was made by a different company, maybe we wouldn’t hate it because it is so not the AP DNA.

And the Kevlar strap is a home run!




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Looks really awesome !
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Old 4 July 2020, 11:03 AM   #114
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Wait..what? Sorry, but the "new" versions still look basically the same as the originals to me. All of them would look right at home inside the 6-sided rotating display case sitting on top of the jewelry counter at Macy's. These things really need integrated straps.
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Old 4 July 2020, 01:28 PM   #115
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The new TT Smoked Dials Code 11.59 will cost CHF 37,230 for the time & date, CHF 58,820 for the chronograph according to Sjx


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Old 4 July 2020, 01:32 PM   #116
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For that price - a RO / ROC would always be preferred.

Ouch!! $$$$$


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Old 4 July 2020, 01:42 PM   #117
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I noticed the prices SJX listed as well, but I think it is wrong for the chronograph. I was told by the boutique that the price for the new chronograph is about US$47K.

I saw that new blue dials (time/date and chrono) and grey dial with two tone case in-person. The new dials look much better than the original dials and at least for me, address the main problem I had with the original chrono and time/date Codes - the dials were a bit too plain. I'm now seriously considering getting the grey fume chrono with two tone case. I say this recognizing that there is still a lot of hate for the Code and resale values aren't great, but I'm not trying to impress anyone else with my watches or resell them. Also, having a watch that speaks to me but not everyone else in the world is kinda nice.
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Old 6 July 2020, 04:50 PM   #118
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The problem with this line, case and dial left aside (I actually quite like both, especially the new dials), is the price. In that price range, you get beautifully finished annual calendars from Patek, while AP will give you an automatic chrono that - except for its nicely sharp rotor - looks like it fell straight out of a CNC mill. The simple date movement doesn’t really measure up to nicely either against what 27k will get you at Patek or VC... AP should go back to its archives less often to look for unfortunate fonts and more to rediscover how to actually make watches by hand. They used to be fantastic at this, but ever since the 3120, seem awfully pleased by the convenience of letting the automated diamond head do the same it does on any entry level Panerai, plus minus a bit of polishing.
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Old 8 July 2020, 01:47 PM   #119
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The white chrono is also really nice in person. Who knows, maybe the code will be a future classic
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Official US prices:

Time / Date: $26,800
Chronograph: $42,400


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