Watch with papers but no name/ address of original owner - is it authentic?

[RajBinani]

I am planning to buy a 5296G Calatrava from a shop - Box and Papers - only thing is papers has Seller stamp, date of sale but name and address is blank. I asked the seller about it - they said occassionally people don't put the name and address on the papers? Wdyt? does it look legitimate? Attaching photos of watch and papers here. Would you say I buy it? Shop is in a nice shopping mall and looks high end - they keep expensive second hand watches like Patek, AP, Rolex, Richard Mille, etc. Btw - the movement number as stated on papers (3616129) - matches with the numbers on the back the movement. Great if someone can guide. thanks in advance.

[IBDOC]

”Open papers” is one of those things greys sometimes advertise as a perk when buying non-AD. As in, it enables you to fill in your own name on the cert.

It’s sort of like ADs supplying single/double sealed watches, outer cardboard box etc. All of this is stuff that collectors sometimes desire but that PP discourages.

So, nothing fishy. BUT. I’d say that there is a non-zero chance that the AD who sold that watch could get in trouble from you posting a blank cert with identifiable AD and serial numbers. Although it seems to have been sold in 2005, perhaps rules weren’t as stringent back then.

[liljctl]

Nothing wrong with that.



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[ts3]

For obvious reasons some people don't want to get their address spread about if they sell a watch. I would make sure that the dealer stamp is legit (i.e. that dealer was a Patek AD in 2005), but not worry too much about the owner missing.

I'll let others chime in on the watch but I don't see anything that would have me believe it is not authentic.

[RajBinani]

Thanks to all for helping out. I checked - the seller did actually used to sell Patek in 2005 so it seems right. Thanks again.

[enjoythemusic]

Looks legit. Over the decades have seen many original papers without a name on them.