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Old 24 January 2024, 07:41 AM   #1
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Is this Sub 116610LN Legit?

Hi,

I recently got a 2019 116610LN from a friend. He originally got the watch from another friend who supposedly acquired it at retail al a local AD.

I have the box and card. The card matches the serial on the number and it's signed by the local AD. We're in Portugal, so I don't think someone would fake that specific AD.

I compared the box and everything is a match - fakes tend to have poor boxes.

However, there's a thing about the watch that's a little odd - the crown action (it winds perfectly but it grinds when winding very slowly).

The movement also seems to make a small metallic noise when shaking it (seems I'm not the only one who has experienced this).

I'm attaching some pictures. Let me know what you think. Perhaps it only needs a service and polishing.
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Old 24 January 2024, 11:50 AM   #2
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Take it in for service. Why do you think it's fake?
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Old 24 January 2024, 06:05 PM   #3
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Take it in for service. Why do you think it's fake?
It's still within the warranty period, so that's definitely a possibility. Thing is: sending the watch through RSC at my local AD is taking upwards of six months.

I have my suspicions because it's too beat up. Even though I don't see any red flags, it could be one of those Chinese super clones. You never know..
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Old 24 January 2024, 11:53 PM   #4
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It's still within the warranty period, so that's definitely a possibility. Thing is: sending the watch through RSC at my local AD is taking upwards of six months.

I have my suspicions because it's too beat up. Even though I don't see any red flags, it could be one of those Chinese super clones. You never know..
observe it side by side with a real one and it should be easy to tell if not legit
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Old 25 January 2024, 05:37 AM   #5
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You mentioned it was dated and signed by your local AD. Why not take it over and ask for verification. Whether the AD truly sold this watch to person that is listed/written on the warrant card?
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Old 25 January 2024, 11:26 PM   #6
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You mentioned it was dated and signed by your local AD. Why not take it over and ask for verification. Whether the AD truly sold this watch to person that is listed/written on the warrant card?
With local I meant within the country. It's still 600 miles away from me (I live on an island). There's a different AD here, though – do you think they have access to the database?
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Old 25 January 2024, 11:27 PM   #7
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observe it side by side with a real one and it should be easy to tell if not legit
Everything looks good, but those super clones scare me.. Maybe I'm missing something?

I'll take it my home town's AD, maybe they can verify the serial.
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Old 26 January 2024, 01:38 AM   #8
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google your serial number. modern fakes could look very similar to the original. You have two options - verify with AD or have movement visually checked.
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Old 26 January 2024, 05:26 AM   #9
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I would go to the AD and tell them your concerns. See what they say and go from there.
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Old 28 January 2024, 10:36 PM   #10
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This watch is 100% genuine, probably just in need for a service.
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Old 29 January 2024, 03:01 AM   #11
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However, there's a thing about the watch that's a little odd - the crown action (it winds perfectly but it grinds when winding very slowly).

The movement also seems to make a small metallic noise when shaking it (seems I'm not the only one who has experienced this).

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As the spring is wound it gets harder to wind until you end up winding the mainspring itself within it's barrel.

They all make some sort of noise when shaking.

Why do you feel that your friends are less than forthcoming?
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Old 4 February 2024, 04:28 AM   #12
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Looks good to me. Would not worry about it. Send in for a service and enjoy!
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