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20 September 2020, 11:54 PM | #31 | |
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The discontinued OP39 (and the white dial) was a complete shock to me. Was hoping they were just going to upgrade the movement only. And I would buy. But nope. Now the remaining discontinued models are going for more than Date Justs. OP - I would get the Explorer now before they do something unpredictable that may not be to your liking. Me- I would jump at a white dial version Explorer as long as it's 39mm or LESS. Especially if that white dial was the same color as the OP white dial. 38mm would be choice. Dream watch (1 of anyway). If I can get my hands on a new Explorer now, I may bite, unless I can find a white OP at a reasonable price (not likely). A white dial Explorer - would be ideal. |
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21 September 2020, 01:52 AM | #32 |
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A lesser watch would be an identical Explorer without any aesthetic changes but replacing the 31 series for the 32 series. That would be a lesser watch imo. OP's words not mine but I know what he's implying.
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I do like the watch but it's not as simple as 'like it, get it' for me. My question was if members think the movement will change in 2021 or not? Not if I should buy and sell the current reference, i'm aware that is an option open to me. I'll no doubt like the new ones just as much. Same, same, different is the Rolex way so the changes will be slight if and when they come. I like plenty of watches I don't yet own so i'm happy to hunt down other pieces in the meantime (assuming the movement change is on the cards in the 2021 releases). However if there was no movement change in 2021 i'd be disappointed I've waited & didn't pick the current reference up this year. I understand there is no exact science to what Rolex will do but i figured gauging opinions from Rolex enthusiasts would be a reasonable guide to what to expect from the Explorer in 2021. Peace
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The 39mm Explorer I is perfect as is.
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I do take your point about the Explorer being a time only piece and therefore the PR isn't a huge thing but that's not really the driver for me. I think i'm being a little misunderstood. If they update the current reference in 2021 they will make some cosmetic changes too. If they do that I will be disappointed I've not waited. They always get a little better in my opinion which I understand is subjective but i'm yet to pang over a discontinued model, I always tend to prefer the updates & innovations on offer.
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36mm with a small glidelock would be my wish. Will probably never happen though.
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I don't think they will play about with their stable pieces too much. It was controversial enough moving from 36mm to 39mm, surely there is no way they'll go bigger? Sub has been 40mm since forever and the increase to 41mm has went hand in hand with a slimmer case and you can barely notice the difference. Daytona and GMT have been 40mm since forever. Unpopular opinion but I hope they never do a white dial Explorer. Although it might be on the cards with the discontinued OP? It won't go up to 41mm, that's just not the Explorer way. I agree a 38mm would be very desirable.
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Say what you really think why don't you, i do admire your honesty
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Yeah that would be awesome, although i'd settle for 37,37.5 or 38.
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It makes zero sense.
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Is that not exactly what they did the 126622 Yachtmaster 40? If I'm recalling correctly, there wasn't an official release with the updated movement--it just was a quiet change where they added the coronet at 6 o'clock, changed the movement, and updated the marketing materials.
Since the MKII version of the Explorer I came out less than 5 years ago, I feel like we could see the same thing. |
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What would the Explorer II do then? Move to 43 or 44? If the Explorer I moved up, I don't think it would be above 40mm. Rolex already is satisfying the "big Explorer" appetite with the Explorer II as-is. Also remembering the history of the Explorer, moving from 36mm to 41mm over time would be a big jump; I don't think Rolex would make that large of a change.
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Now, we are also thinking like Rolex and expecting dial colors and increase in size!
If truly anything needs to be improved on Explorer, its adding a quickset hour hand. Calling it Explorer but not providing the easy use for traveling! |
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And why would the Explorer II need to do anything? I don't get you logic. Explorer II and Explorer are vey different watches to my eye. |
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Even if Rolex did exactly what you surmise, I fail to see how it makes it a lesser watch that the previous version as the OP and another poster state
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My Speedmaster Dark Side of the Moon has the quickset hour hand, and it really is a handy feature. |
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I don't think they dare go larger than 40, maybe they will call it a 41 that measures 40, movement upgrade? Possibly.
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Explorer seems to have risen a fair bit lately price wise for some reason. Haven’t seen any in London for a few months now at different AD’s.
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I don’t think they will increase the size. IMO one of the primary drivers in the recent size changes for many of the other references is to provide better differentiation throughout the catalog. With the OP moving from 39 to 41, I really think the 39mm form factor will remain the exclusive domain of the Exp I for the foreseeable future. A movement update seems very plausible to me though.
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22 September 2020, 05:40 AM | #54 |
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OP39 white dial had a amazing cult following in it's 2.5 year cycle.
Rolex will probably upgrade to 41mm for ease of producing cases to match the op41. Next year we'll probably see a 41mm updated movement Explorer. If we are super lucky, a white dial will be added |
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These aren't iphones that they try to humiliate/FOMO us into changing every year. If you like the watch, buy it. The holy grails of Explorers are 40-50 years old or more, not as-yet-unreleased figments of your imagination.
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Non existent in London for the last few months now. Friend looking for one and he keeps getting told 6-12 months. Defo running low. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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I appreciate the report. Does anyone else have any recent experiences regarding availability?
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