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Old 27 May 2015, 01:22 PM   #1
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Is the engraved Rolex crown on the crystal of this Explorer 214270 correct?

I recently purchased an Explorer 214270 from a jeweler with great references on the Forum. The anti-counterfeiting Rolex logo on the crystal is located at the 4:00 marker. Is this correct? I would expect it to be at the 6:00 marker. Please let me know your thoughts.
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Old 27 May 2015, 01:33 PM   #2
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I can't see the etching on my Yacht-Master or my Sub's crystal. Bad eyes, fake, or just dumb?
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Old 27 May 2015, 01:39 PM   #3
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The crystal is probably just not fitted correctly to have the LEC at the 6 o'clock position.
As the Explorer doesn't have a date and cyclops the person fitting it would have to be extra careful to make sure of this, which they probably weren't as they might not have thought about it.
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Old 27 May 2015, 01:42 PM   #4
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I can't see the etching on my Yacht-Master or my Sub's crystal. Bad eyes, fake, or just dumb?
It can be very difficult to see. Take a small flashlight and shine it parallel with the dial, pointing from the 12 o'clock to the 6 o'clock markers and you should see it appear with a little movement of the crystal.
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Old 27 May 2015, 02:08 PM   #5
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The crystal is probably just not fitted correctly to have the LEC at the 6 o'clock position.
As the Explorer doesn't have a date and cyclops the person fitting it would have to be extra careful to make sure of this, which they probably weren't as they might not have thought about it.
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Old 27 May 2015, 02:13 PM   #6
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If the crystal is not fitted correctly, is it possible this happened at Rolex or aftermarket?
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Old 27 May 2015, 02:16 PM   #7
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I haven't heard of the crystals being poorly fit from the factory
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Old 30 May 2015, 01:29 PM   #8
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If the crystal is not fitted correctly, is it possible this happened at Rolex or aftermarket?
It's not "poorly fitted" or "not fitted correctly". The non-date crystal is the same and can be fitted correctly with the coronet at any location. Typically it will be found at 6, but like the crown coronet, it could be found anywhere..
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Old 30 May 2015, 05:34 PM   #9
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It's not "poorly fitted" or "not fitted correctly". The non-date crystal is the same and can be fitted correctly with the coronet at any location. Typically it will be found at 6, but like the crown coronet, it could be found anywhere..
Have to agree Larry trouble today Rolex no longer make watches they now make only alignment points.
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Old 30 May 2015, 05:49 PM   #10
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It's not "poorly fitted" or "not fitted correctly". The non-date crystal is the same and can be fitted correctly with the coronet at any location. Typically it will be found at 6, but like the crown coronet, it could be found anywhere..
Hi Larry and Padi,

I read that this laser crown was applied to the crown at the 6 o'clock position after the crystal was placed on the watch.
If this is true then would it have been a mistake to fit the crystal with the laser crown at any other position?
The laser crown on my Sea Dweller, 14060M and 114060 are exactly at the 6 position as they came from Rolex.

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Old 30 May 2015, 08:06 PM   #11
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Hi Larry and Padi,

I read that this laser crown was applied to the crown at the 6 o'clock position after the crystal was placed on the watch.
If this is true then would it have been a mistake to fit the crystal with the laser crown at any other position?
The laser crown on my Sea Dweller, 14060M and 114060 are exactly at the 6 position as they came from Rolex.

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I would doubt that it would be quite time consuming to do every single one while in a watch.I know the Rolex Robots can work miracles to produce almost 800000 units a year.
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Old 31 May 2015, 06:42 PM   #12
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It's not "poorly fitted" or "not fitted correctly". The non-date crystal is the same and can be fitted correctly with the coronet at any location. Typically it will be found at 6, but like the crown coronet, it could be found anywhere..
Wrong. If it isn't at 6, then a trip to RSC is order. They will correct it for you.
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Wrong. If it isn't at 6, then a trip to RSC is order. They will correct it for you.
I personally wouldn't send my watch in and risk scratching or dust on the dial or inside the crystal etc. caused by opening the case just to have it turned around to the 6 o'clock position.
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Old 31 May 2015, 07:07 PM   #14
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It's not "poorly fitted" or "not fitted correctly". The non-date crystal is the same and can be fitted correctly with the coronet at any location. Typically it will be found at 6, but like the crown coronet, it could be found anywhere..

Wrong. If it isn't at 6, then a trip to RSC is order. They will correct it for you.


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Old 1 June 2015, 12:49 AM   #15
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Wrong. If it isn't at 6, then a trip to RSC is order. They will correct it for you.
Sure they will. But that doesn't mean that it is "poorly fitted" or "fitted incorrectly" it's just a trademark. It's simply not an issue that can cause the watch to operate or malfunction and easily addressed. I wouldn't put it on my list of running off to the RSC with.. I'm sure that you would.
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Old 1 June 2015, 01:03 AM   #16
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Wrong. If it isn't at 6, then a trip to RSC is order. They will correct it for you.
It's true the LEC is only positioned at the 6 o clock marker from models with a date. Models without a date and the LEC not potisioned at 6 o clock is very common. It has been seen on de SND as well the Explorer 1 and Air King.
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It's true the LEC is only positioned at the 6 o clock marker from models with a date. Models without a date and the LEC not potisioned at 6 o clock is very common. It has been seen on de SND as well the Explorer 1 and Air King.
I think that's bull. It seems extremely unlikely this watch came from the factory this way. My Explorer has the logo perfectly centered at the 6PM position, and I've never seen a new watch purchased from an AD that had the logo in any other location. Why would it be somewhere else? Do they just slap the crystal on the watch and ship it? It's logical to assume that they have a way of insuring the crystal is put on with proper location in mind during production (or the engraving is added after the crystal is installed). If the watch is opened and worked on it's easy to see how many watchmakers night not be as careful during reassembly. You purchased it online, so it could easily have been opened for some reason and the crystal removed and reinstalled. You have no way of knowing what the history of the watch is. Will RSC honor the warranty and put it right if you want? Perhaps.
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most likely it was serviced and the watchmaker didn't think about the coronet etching on the crystal at time of re assembly , without having it in front of me or on my wrist i have no way of knowing if it would bother me or not ! but knowing it should be at 6:00 i would definitely want it put there in the event that it had to come apart for any reason ( future service ) . unless it jumps out at ya every time you look at the watch , worry about it down the road !
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Is the engraved Rolex crown on the crystal of this Explorer 214270 correct?

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I recently purchased an Explorer 214270 from a jeweler with great references on the Forum. The anti-counterfeiting Rolex logo on the crystal is located at the 4:00 marker. Is this correct? I would expect it to be at the 6:00 marker. Please let me know your thoughts.


What did you finally did with it? Curious if the issue was poor craftsmanship from Rolex, lousie service of watch or a fake (which I doubt). My 214270 (bought used) dows have the crown edge at 6 pm, picture below



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why would something you can't see, even if you try, be an issue you need fixed??
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Is the engraved Rolex crown on the crystal of this Explorer 214270 correct?

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why would something you can't see, even if you try, be an issue you need fixed??

Guess he wants to make sure is 100% genuine


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