5177 White Dial Discount?

[Defiancekofb]

I know the 5711 white dial is not as popular as the unobtainable blue dial, would it be normal to get some type of discount on the white dial version?

[Silver Bullet]

Originally Posted by Defiancekofb

I know the 5711 white dial is not as popular as the unobtainable blue dial, would it be normal to get some type of discount on the white dial version?

Ha!


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[Hairdude1]

It could possibly happen. I believe it would depend on your relationship with the AD

[Defiancekofb]

Originally Posted by Hairdude1

It could possibly happen. I believe it would depend on your relationship with the AD

Yes I realized this was a moot post right after Silver Bullet's reply. I was inquiring at my AD about the white dial earlier last week and there is an opportunity to buy one within the next month. I should have asked him when I was face to face.

[AK797]

Surprised in US discounts are not the norm, before Brexit they were here for that.

[Defiancekofb]

Originally Posted by AK797

Surprised in US discounts are not the norm, before Brexit they were here for that.

I did negotiate a good deal for the 5167, but 5711 is a totally different animal.

[GB-man]

I received about 5% off mine a few years back. Nominal but I had no prior relationship. Cold called and found it.

[cervantes]

Not much, maybe 5%...

[KarlS]

I would just be happy and not bother

[lapince]

All depends what relation you have with your AD, I didn't even ask for any discount on my 5711 blue dial, same for the Rolex Daytona C, was happy to get both in relatively short waiting time, if you don't have a relationship with the AD I don't think they will do anything, even of the white is less in demand it is still a very in demand watch, so chances are low I wiuld imagine

[kaiserphoenix]

Nope in the UK a grey dealer establishment will pay around £2-2.5k over retail for it so not for UK.


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[Defiancekofb]

Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix

Nope in the UK a grey dealer establishment will pay around £2-2.5k over retail for it so not for UK.


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You mean you can sell a BNIB 5711 from an AD to a gray dealer for £2-2.5k profit?

[FlyinM3]

It depends on the relationship with your AD as some have mentioned, and I think 5~10% should be achieveable.

[Lemieux66]

Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix

Nope in the UK a grey dealer establishment will pay around £2-2.5k over retail for it so not for UK.


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My friend was only offered £15k by a well-known UK watch dealer for his sealed 5711 blue dial recently.

[justdate]

Originally Posted by Lemieux66

My friend was only offered £15k by a well-known UK watch dealer for his sealed 5711 blue dial recently.

Frankly that's just a terrible bid. WatchFinder told me as recently as today they will pay over list for a 5711 blue dial, though I did not ask about the white dial.

But in the UK a chance of a discount on either is as good as zero from what I've seen. It's more a case of you should be grateful to be able to buy one!

[kaiserphoenix]

Originally Posted by justdate

Frankly that's just a terrible bid. WatchFinder told me as recently as today they will pay over list for a 5711 blue dial, though I did not ask about the white dial.



But in the UK a chance of a discount on either is as good as zero from what I've seen. It's more a case of you should be grateful to be able to buy one!

£2k above list this was April 2017. Thanks.



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[kaiserphoenix]

Originally Posted by Lemieux66

My friend was only offered £15k by a well-known UK watch dealer for his sealed 5711 blue dial recently.

That dealer is a joke just wants to rip your friend off.

A sealed Blue would fetch close to £22k from a dealer.


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[kaiserphoenix]

Originally Posted by Defiancekofb

You mean you can sell a BNIB 5711 from an AD to a gray dealer for £2-2.5k profit?

Correct see my screenshot. But again this is due to the low MSRP in the U.K. Effectively what it is is that you are selling a 5711 for a "global" price. it just becomes a profit as the UK price is so low.


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[kaiserphoenix]

Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix

£2k above list this was April 2017. This is for the white dial as you can see.


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[Lemieux66]

Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix

That dealer is a joke just wants to rip your friend off.

A sealed Blue would fetch close to £22k from a dealer.


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The weird thing is they are long term friends with each other!

I found it hard to believe at the time he told me.

[justdate]

Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix

£2k above list this was April 2017. Thanks.



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Thanks for confirming. I once sold a watch to them for a few £k profit, unintentionally, just something I bought and changed my mind on. However that profit has certainly been offset by my other purchases with them over the years!!

[justdate]

Originally Posted by Lemieux66

The weird thing is they are long term friends with each other!

I found it hard to believe at the time he told me.

Ouch!!

[AK797]

Originally Posted by Lemieux66

My friend was only offered £15k by a well-known UK watch dealer for his sealed 5711 blue dial recently.

WF are trying to sell a sealed in box one for £29K so I think they would offer over £22K.

[Defiancekofb]

Originally Posted by AK797

WF are trying to sell a sealed in box one for £29K so I think they would offer over £22K.

Seriously, why go through the trouble of a middle man when you can sell it yourself and take all of the profits?

[Lemieux66]

Originally Posted by Defiancekofb

Seriously, why go through the trouble of a middle man when you can sell it yourself and take all of the profits?

I wonder what a 5711 white or blue would sell for at UK forum prices?

[kaiserphoenix]

Originally Posted by Lemieux66

I wonder what a 5711 white or blue would sell for at UK forum prices?

£20,500-£21k

Seeing that a dealer with a brick and mortar shop will buy it for £20,500, anything greater than or equal to that figure. Ofcouese depends on condition too.

Blue is a tricky one as it sells for even more than the white but a lot of people do not want to spend 5712 money on a 5711.


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[Lemieux66]

Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix

£20,500-£21k

Seeing that a dealer with a brick and mortar shop will buy it for £20,500, anything greater than or equal to that figure. Ofcouese depends on condition too.

Blue is a tricky one as it sells for even more than the white but a lot of people do not want to spend 5712 money on a 5711.


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That's good to know. I've got a blue 5711 arriving soon from the AD but I'm torn between the 5711 and DD40 YG stick. Tried on the DD40 yesterday and I love it! The Nautilus feels more like I 'ought to like it', if that makes sense, but I keep thinking I'll be kicking myself one day if I don't get it. Heart versus head...

[AK797]

Originally Posted by Lemieux66

That's good to know. I've got a blue 5711 arriving soon from the AD but I'm torn between the 5711 and DD40 YG stick. Tried on the DD40 yesterday and I love it! The Nautilus feels more like I 'ought to like it', if that makes sense, but I keep thinking I'll be kicking myself one day if I don't get it. Heart versus head...

Wear the PP for 6 months and then make a decision. If you look after the Naut you should still be able to sell for a profit, so the best of both worlds.

[Russell996]

Originally Posted by Lemieux66

That's good to know. I've got a blue 5711 arriving soon from the AD but I'm torn between the 5711 and DD40 YG stick. Tried on the DD40 yesterday and I love it! The Nautilus feels more like I 'ought to like it', if that makes sense, but I keep thinking I'll be kicking myself one day if I don't get it. Heart versus head...

If you don't love the 5711 I would pass and let someone else have the enjoyment.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by AK797

Wear the PP for 6 months and then make a decision. If you look after the Naut you should still be able to sell for a profit, so the best of both worlds.

Usually I would go straight to the DD40 but with a 5711 almost anyone can afford to take her for a spin