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Erpin · 4 October 2017, 07:58 PM

I got offered by the auction house that sold the 6263 PN, a 5513 milsub. The price is $180k but after scouring the internet i could not find sufficient info to confirm if the price asked is fair. Here is a picture of the watch.

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Vincent65 · 4 October 2017, 08:15 PM

Stunner! Price isn't fair - they shouldn't cost that much!

Haywood_Milton · 4 October 2017, 08:52 PM

Seems a lot for a 5513, but it's a mad world at the moment and how many does a potential buyer have to choose from? Most of these watches are now settled with long-term owners / collections. I've heard some people even have more than one!

Does the case back correctly match the main case?

I suspect it's from the largest 3m case number batch, having that dial.

W10 or 0552 markings?

Not a double ref 5513/5517 ?

Haywood

Erpin · 4 October 2017, 08:54 PM

Yes everything checks out. If it were a 5517 then the price is fair.

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brandrea · 4 October 2017, 08:55 PM

I can't relate to the prices of some of these vintage, but it sure is a beauty

GB-man · 5 October 2017, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by brandrea

I can't relate to the prices of some of these vintage, but it sure is a beauty

+1

Beauty

subtona · 5 October 2017, 11:37 AM

Nice watch.
High price.

Sky21 · 5 October 2017, 02:27 PM

Guess the real question is, do you have a spare $180k lying around to spend on the watch? If so, then this may be your one chance to buy a milsub.

traf · 5 October 2017, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton

Seems a lot for a 5513, but it's a mad world at the moment and how many does a potential buyer have to choose from? Most of these watches are now settled with long-term owners / collections. I've heard some people even have more than one!

Does the case back correctly match the main case?

I suspect it's from the largest 3m case number batch, having that dial.

W10 or 0552 markings?

Not a double ref 5513/5517 ?

Haywood

You’re a funny guy Haywood

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southtexas · 6 October 2017, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Vincent65

Stunner! Price isn't fair - they shouldn't cost that much!

Haha my thoughts exactly

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linesiders · 6 October 2017, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton

I've heard some people even have more than one!

When I grow up I want to be you (or Mike Wood)

Erpin · 6 October 2017, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton

Seems a lot for a 5513, but it's a mad world at the moment and how many does a potential buyer have to choose from? Most of these watches are now settled with long-term owners / collections. I've heard some people even have more than one!

Does the case back correctly match the main case?

I suspect it's from the largest 3m case number batch, having that dial.

W10 or 0552 markings?

Not a double ref 5513/5517 ?

Haywood

Sir is it ok for me to buy the milsub at $180k?

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Boaters · 7 October 2017, 12:23 AM

The watch looks perfect the patina on the dial insert so nice. I would love to see Haywoods collection his signature is just ... WOW

watchkid · 7 October 2017, 02:02 AM

I'm curious , what auction house is this?

Tom1675 · 7 October 2017, 02:52 AM

https://www.phillips.com/detail/ROLEX/HK080316/807

This happened not too long ago, but is a double ref.

You need to answer Haywood's questions and then you can answer the "should you buy?" yourself.

jedly1 · 7 October 2017, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Erpin

Sir is it ok for me to buy the milsub at $180k?

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Whilst I should say yes ... really No , for a watch no service , no provenance , and what looks like two big Chips in the bezel it sounds high.

Erpin · 7 October 2017, 08:58 AM

According to the auction house, the watch has a service quote from Rolex UK. They sent me a picture of the back case below

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Haywood_Milton · 7 October 2017, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Boaters

The watch looks perfect the patina on the dial insert so nice. I would love to see Haywoods collection his signature is just ... WOW

Well that’s very kind. I really don’t know how to photograph them all but here’s a tray of just some that I snapped a couple of years ago...

...and here’s a closer look at one one them relevant to the thread.

Haywood

Haywood_Milton · 7 October 2017, 09:09 AM

Erpin, this watch seems expensive.

Several versions of the T-dial...

Haywood

Erpin · 7 October 2017, 09:28 AM

Here is a close up picture of the dial

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Erpin · 7 October 2017, 10:55 AM

Service quote from Rolex UK.

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Boaters · 7 October 2017, 01:34 PM

Thanks Haywood simply amazing. If i may ask how long did it take you to build that beautiful collection? Thank you sir..

Thuilln · 7 October 2017, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Erpin

Sir is it ok for me to buy the milsub at $180k?

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Are we talking US dollars here?

Erpin · 8 October 2017, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Thuilln

Are we talking US dollars here?

Yes

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harry in montreal · 8 October 2017, 01:32 AM

Erpin, you have a pretty great collection. Even without the milsub

lambstew · 8 October 2017, 03:03 AM

I believe current prices are in the $75-$100,000 GBP range so that would be full market value..

Erpin · 8 October 2017, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by harry in montreal

Erpin, you have a pretty great collection. Even without the milsub

Thank you for the compliment.

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Yzord · 8 October 2017, 03:19 AM

Damn...180k USD. Thats an insane amount of money

Erpin · 8 October 2017, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by lambstew

I believe current prices are in the $75-$100,000 GBP range so that would be full market value..

Thanks for the info. If i can make them agree to $170k, i will seriously consider.

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brettpaul · 8 October 2017, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Haywood_Milton

Seems a lot for a 5513, but it's a mad world at the moment and how many does a potential buyer have to choose from? Most of these watches are now settled with long-term owners / collections. I've heard some people even have more than one!

Does the case back correctly match the main case?

I suspect it's from the largest 3m case number batch, having that dial.

W10 or 0552 markings?

Not a double ref 5513/5517 ?

Haywood

Yes Haywood, can you imagine someone owning more than one....#hoarder!

4 October 2017, 07:58 PM	#1
Erpin "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Eric Location: Philippines Watch: Rolex DRSD Posts: 663	Rolex 5513 Milsub I got offered by the auction house that sold the 6263 PN, a 5513 milsub. The price is $180k but after scouring the internet i could not find sufficient info to confirm if the price asked is fair. Here is a picture of the watch. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

4 October 2017, 08:15 PM	#2
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,293	Stunner! Price isn't fair - they shouldn't cost that much! __________________

4 October 2017, 08:52 PM	#3
Haywood_Milton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Yes, it is ! Location: Cheshire & Mersey Watch: Military issue Sub Posts: 1,319	Seems a lot for a 5513, but it's a mad world at the moment and how many does a potential buyer have to choose from? Most of these watches are now settled with long-term owners / collections. I've heard some people even have more than one! Does the case back correctly match the main case? I suspect it's from the largest 3m case number batch, having that dial. W10 or 0552 markings? Not a double ref 5513/5517 ? Haywood __________________ Comex:5513,5514,1665x2,16800x2,16600 Mil sub:5517x2,5513x9,5512 Submariner:6536/1x2,5508,5513 PCG u/line & double SWISS (America's Cup),5513 giltx2, 5513 m-firstx2,5513 gloss WGx2,1680 Red,1680 White Mk1 & Mk2 Sea-Dweller:1665 DRSDx3,Great Whitex3 GMT-Master:6542x2 (1 Bakelite),1675x8 (2 gilt), 16750 & SeaKing 116710LN Explorer:1016x6 (1 gilt),5500x3,14270 Blackout, Orange 1655 x4 Milgauss 1019x3 Cosmo 6263 *RNCD DSSD 116660.

5 October 2017, 11:37 AM	#7
subtona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 25,997	Nice watch. High price. __________________

7 October 2017, 09:09 AM	#19
Haywood_Milton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Yes, it is ! Location: Cheshire & Mersey Watch: Military issue Sub Posts: 1,319	Erpin, this watch seems expensive. Several versions of the T-dial... Haywood __________________ Comex:5513,5514,1665x2,16800x2,16600 Mil sub:5517x2,5513x9,5512 Submariner:6536/1x2,5508,5513 PCG u/line & double SWISS (America's Cup),5513 giltx2, 5513 m-firstx2,5513 gloss WGx2,1680 Red,1680 White Mk1 & Mk2 Sea-Dweller:1665 DRSDx3,Great Whitex3 GMT-Master:6542x2 (1 Bakelite),1675x8 (2 gilt), 16750 & SeaKing 116710LN Explorer:1016x6 (1 gilt),5500x3,14270 Blackout, Orange 1655 x4 Milgauss 1019x3 Cosmo 6263 *RNCD DSSD 116660.

4 October 2017, 08:54 PM	#4
Erpin "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Eric Location: Philippines Watch: Rolex DRSD Posts: 663	Yes everything checks out. If it were a 5517 then the price is fair. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

4 October 2017, 08:55 PM	#5
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 73,703	I can't relate to the prices of some of these vintage, but it sure is a beauty

5 October 2017, 02:27 PM	#8
Sky21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: USA Posts: 885	Guess the real question is, do you have a spare $180k lying around to spend on the watch? If so, then this may be your one chance to buy a milsub.

7 October 2017, 12:23 AM	#13
Boaters 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: 116610LV 16710 SD Posts: 10,649	The watch looks perfect the patina on the dial insert so nice. I would love to see Haywoods collection his signature is just ... WOW

7 October 2017, 02:02 AM	#14
watchkid "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: canada Posts: 16	I'm curious , what auction house is this?

7 October 2017, 02:52 AM	#15
Tom1675 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Tom Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,172	https://www.phillips.com/detail/ROLEX/HK080316/807 This happened not too long ago, but is a double ref. You need to answer Haywood's questions and then you can answer the "should you buy?" yourself.

7 October 2017, 08:58 AM	#17
Erpin "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Eric Location: Philippines Watch: Rolex DRSD Posts: 663	According to the auction house, the watch has a service quote from Rolex UK. They sent me a picture of the back case below Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

7 October 2017, 09:28 AM	#20
Erpin "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Eric Location: Philippines Watch: Rolex DRSD Posts: 663	Here is a close up picture of the dial Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

7 October 2017, 10:55 AM	#21
Erpin "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Eric Location: Philippines Watch: Rolex DRSD Posts: 663	Service quote from Rolex UK. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

7 October 2017, 01:34 PM	#22
Boaters 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: 116610LV 16710 SD Posts: 10,649	Thanks Haywood simply amazing. If i may ask how long did it take you to build that beautiful collection? Thank you sir..

8 October 2017, 01:32 AM	#25
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	Erpin, you have a pretty great collection. Even without the milsub

8 October 2017, 03:03 AM	#26
lambstew "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Up North Posts: 17	I believe current prices are in the $75-$100,000 GBP range so that would be full market value..

8 October 2017, 03:19 AM	#28
Yzord "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Real Name: Alyx Location: Universe Watch: The Gibeon watch Posts: 892	Damn...180k USD. Thats an insane amount of money __________________ 2022 126720VTNR Sprite - 2020 126719BLRO Meteorite dial - 2018 126333 DJ41 Wimbledon Dial - 2017 114060 SubC No Date - 2017 116613LN SubC Date Two Tone - 2017 116508 Daytona 18K YG Green Dial

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