Submariner and Submariner Date

[Rexplorer214270]

I hope everyone is safe and healthy.

In the realm of first world scenarios and to think of something while everything is shutdown, I wanted to pose this question, say you had been waiting a year maybe a little bit more or a little less for a Submariner or Submariner Date from an AD. Now you have gotten the call and they have one available and yours if you want it. Do you do it or wait thinking a new Submariner or Submariner Date is going to be released by Rolex either later this year or at Basel in 2021? For this scenario assumption is you have the money set aside.

[Cool watch]

Grab the one available now.
If anything, the discontinued model becomes a collectors piece at some point.

[PaulEvansLoafers]

I think it doesn't make sense to wait. If you have the money and have already been waiting 1 year for the call, why forgo the opportunity on the basis of mere speculation.

Also, if you waited 1 year to get the current model, how long do you think the wait will be for the new one if they do release it? You can always sell and upgrade.

Enjoy it while you can!!

[sickened1]

Yup, I would get it now rather than wait. Life's too short. Who knows what's gonna happen between now and 2021. At least it will put a smile on your face when you wear it...





Also you can flip it later to get a newer one down the road!

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by Rexplorer214270

I hope everyone is safe and healthy.

In the realm of first world scenarios and to think of something while everything is shutdown, I wanted to pose this question, say you had been waiting a year maybe a little bit more or a little less for a Submariner or Submariner Date from an AD. Now you have gotten the call and they have one available and yours if you want it. Do you do it or wait thinking a new Submariner or Submariner Date is going to be released by Rolex either later this year or at Basel in 2021? For this scenario assumption is you have the money set aside.

Take it I’d say

[Xtralarg]

I'd say wait a few more months and you'll get one discounted from an AD.

[Roddypeepa]

Grab it now. Rolex isn’t releasing anything until Basel 21.


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[The M3 Guy]

Buy the one they offer, the wait time for new release will be way to long especially if you have waited 1+ year for the current one.

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by Xtralarg

I'd say wait a few more months and you'll get one discounted from an AD.

ADs in the UK won’t be discounting steel subs.

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by Roddypeepa

Grab it now. Rolex isn’t releasing anything until Basel 21.


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I heard end of April 2020 for new releases.....

[carl5]

Very much in support

[LigerBelair]

Originally Posted by Rexplorer214270

I hope everyone is safe and healthy.

In the realm of first world scenarios and to think of something while everything is shutdown, I wanted to pose this question, say you had been waiting a year maybe a little bit more or a little less for a Submariner or Submariner Date from an AD. Now you have gotten the call and they have one available and yours if you want it. Do you do it or wait thinking a new Submariner or Submariner Date is going to be released by Rolex either later this year or at Basel in 2021? For this scenario assumption is you have the money set aside.

Based on my assumption that the movement is going to be upgraded "soon" (i.e. soon in the context of the pandemic), I'd wait.

[B2 Stealth]

Buy Now! Future uncertain. Enjoy!

[LigerBelair]

Originally Posted by Nairn1980

ADs in the UK won’t be discounting steel subs.

I'm impressed by your relentless claims that the UK is somehow different and immune to market forces. But your insistence aside - impressive though it is - the UK isn't.

[AstroClock]

Buy now.

If your AD made you wait one year for the current sub (which seems to be generally available from an AD with a bit of patience) my guess is the same AD will make you wait much, much longer for the new “hot” sub. I doubt you’ll be given much credit for that first year. The VIPs will want the new sub and jump in front of you.

So do the math... if the new sub is announced in early 2021, hitting ADs a few months later, but you have to wait 2+ years for an allocation,, you’re now well into 2023. Not worth the wait, if you ask me.

[209Wrist]

I am also waiting for a call from my AD for a Date Sub. I would instantly purchase the watch if they were still open and gave me the call, but that speaks to the fact that I want this specific make and model and am not worried about a future model revision.

[Xtralarg]

People dont seem to grasp the magnitude of the financial situation that the world is hurtling towards. Watches will not be sought by the masses as an investment any more. This will vastly reduce demand, that will drive down desirability and ultimately price.

The recent - 2/3 years was hype, it's over now. Things will return to where they were, minus a lot more financial stability in the world. If anyone thinks that AD's will be able to play games any more and premiums will be maintained for ss pieces they need to give their head a wobble. The 116500 will be the exception, but it will not fetch double retail, it will sell at greys for approx +50% mrsp, this means it'll attract approx +30% mrsp for anyone wanting to sell one to a grey.

[Mr. Superlative]

Buy it. Procrastination is the thief of time.

[brandrea]

I’d buy it on its own merit regardless of what may or may not be released in the future

[Rexplorer214270]

Originally Posted by Xtralarg

People dont seem to grasp the magnitude of the financial situation that the world is hurtling towards. Watches will not be sought by the masses as an investment any more. This will vastly reduce demand, that will drive down desirability and ultimately price.

The recent - 2/3 years was hype, it's over now. Things will return to where they were, minus a lot more financial stability in the world. If anyone thinks that AD's will be able to play games any more and premiums will be maintained for ss pieces they need to give their head a wobble. The 116500 will be the exception, but it will not fetch double retail, it will sell at greys for approx +50% mrsp, this means it'll attract approx +30% mrsp for anyone wanting to sell one to a grey.

Does this mean that AD’s could start offering discounts?

[-dustin]

2 chickens in a bucket.

Buy, buy, buy.

[Billfish]

Hard to change perfection! Buy

[garyk]

I’d get it, why not...bird in hand...

[Yess]

I'd buy it, wear it, love it... and use the next two to three years to save and wait for the wait list to catch up to my name on the new models!
Surely if a watch gets discontinued, every one at the head of the wait list for that model would get transitioned to the new model + all the high rollers and big spenders that already have the old model jump the que and get the new model in front of you also?!

[Nairn1980]

Originally Posted by LigerBelair

I'm impressed by your relentless claims that the UK is somehow different and immune to market forces. But your insistence aside - impressive though it is - the UK isn't.

That’s my opinion and prediction. I appreciate others have a different take and I respect that completely.

I’ve been buying Rolex for 20 years and have seen the market at discounting and non discounting phases,

However I believe now Rolex have worked so hard to create a “no discount” brand in the UK (especially on SS sport models) that I just don’t see things getting to a stage when UK ADs need to discount them (steel subs/GMTs). I think it will be relaxed on PM models that may qualify for a 5% or so discount. I do see even more ADs losing their agencies and there to be even fewer agencies left in the UK...I also see the independent ADs slowly disappearing to make way for the boutiques.

Could I be wrong? Yes absolutely, but it’s just my feeling. I’m close to the market so if I start hearing of discounted steel subs via ADs I’ll happily report it and say I was wrong

[teabags001]

But now. Even if the sub gets a new movement and redesign I imagine It will hit the PM models for the first year then trickle down to the SS models. So you are looking at an extended wait.

I’ve owned a few 32xx moments and I didn’t like the rotor noise. I prefer the older tried and true movement. It’s also easier to do maintenance on as well.


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[padi56]

Originally Posted by Rexplorer214270

I hope everyone is safe and healthy.

In the realm of first world scenarios and to think of something while everything is shutdown, I wanted to pose this question, say you had been waiting a year maybe a little bit more or a little less for a Submariner or Submariner Date from an AD. Now you have gotten the call and they have one available and yours if you want it. Do you do it or wait thinking a new Submariner or Submariner Date is going to be released by Rolex either later this year or at Basel in 2021? For this scenario assumption is you have the money set aside.

Look in the real word if they make any changes to the sub it will be purely cosmetic even if they change the movement to the 32 series.At the moment quite a few problems with the 32 series, so give me the 31 movement any day.The 3135 is a well proven movement in reliability and accuracy even with the 48 hour power-reserve which is perfectly adequate,afraid newer is not always better.

[Jimmy 1665]

Get one now. Prices inevitably go up.

[subprimero]

Buy it now!

[RFBHD]

I haven't see any subs displayed in an ADs case in.... hell i cant remember!!! Buy it!!!!! I found one the beginning of March right before the shut down.. snowbirding in SWFL after calling my SP on a whim . It was in the safe.. picked it up the next day