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SL BRABUS · 2 October 2017, 02:48 PM

For long term ownership which annual calendar would you pick between those two...??...

For the CLASS, the ELEGANT, the LOOK, the TIMELESS & appreciation in a reasonable future of 10 plus years & so on.....

PM Rolex Skydweller

(OR) PM Patek Philippe 5146

Those are your choice...

..^^^...

Thanks....

Best Regards,
Tony

Jackflash · 2 October 2017, 02:52 PM

5146. It's on a different level. More understated, more elegant, and the movement decoration is outstanding.

WS9D · 2 October 2017, 02:56 PM

I'd go SkyD. I feel it will put up with the abuses of my life style (and 5 year old) better than the PP as gorgeous as it is. I love moon phase complications, but imho, the SkyD ticks the requested boxes for me more. Not to mention, when your eyes go, the cyclops will help you see the date lol...

HogwldFLTR · 2 October 2017, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jackflash

5146. It's on a different level. More understated, more elegant, and the movement decoration is outstanding.

More fragile; more expensive. Not for me. Don't need moon phase but GMT I can use.

sensui · 2 October 2017, 02:59 PM

Sorry Rolex it's the Patek for me on this one.

HogwldFLTR · 2 October 2017, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sensui

Sorry Rolex it's the Patek for me on this one.

For a daily?

machob55 · 2 October 2017, 03:04 PM

The Patek is to die for....superbly elegant. But that Skydweller...well, you fill in the gaps. Good luck with your decision!

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Ruud Van Driver · 2 October 2017, 03:07 PM

SkyD for me.

Both are beautiful but the Patek doesn’t do it for me. It’s not a tool watch, it’s not designed to take a wallop, I get that. But I’d like to wear something that I wasn’t afraid of catching on a door jam or something.

hambone1983 · 2 October 2017, 03:12 PM

I'd take the Patek. Especially based on the criteria given by OP. No comparison, IMHO

Ruud Van Driver · 2 October 2017, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

For a daily?

If you were a CEO in an office environment Monday to Friday, then maybe. But you might need something different for the weekend.

Cru Jones · 2 October 2017, 03:14 PM

I like the 5146, but not so much in that color combo. So, it's the SkyD for me.

sensui · 2 October 2017, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

For a daily?

I didn't see anything in OP's post about daily use...the question is about timelessness, class, elegance...the Patek to me is the hands down winner.

Nav01L · 2 October 2017, 03:20 PM

Neither. Would go for the WG Sky-D

OahuHorologist · 2 October 2017, 03:24 PM

Agree the Patek is the best choice here!

rominvicta · 2 October 2017, 04:07 PM

Depends what you look for. Watch to wear or a treasure to bear?
SkyD of course!

chemistman · 2 October 2017, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruud Van Driver

SkyD for me.

Both are beautiful but the Patek doesn’t do it for me. It’s not a tool watch, it’s not designed to take a wallop, I get that. But I’d like to wear something that I wasn’t afraid of catching on a door jam or something.

That would be my personal choice too. I've thought long and hard about Patek and was very close to pulling the trigger, but the current service time just puts me off. Our AD here pretty much tells you to expect a long wait upfront (4months plus) when you enquires about Patek.

However for OPs criteria Patek fits better.

+For the CLASS- no argument Patek is the winner

+ELEGANT- personally leaning towards Patek. SD has more of a bling vibe.

+LOOK- that's very personal. However a PM SkyD does contain a bigger chunk of gold and looks awesome

+TIMELESS- again probably Patek since SkyD has only been out in the recent years.

+ Appreciation in a reasonable future of 10 plus years - probably Patek since now Rolex is doing more SS SkyD. PM rolex always lose more value new but does hold well on the secondary market. Have a look at YG GMT II from the late 2000s- their value did not appreciate much compared to SS GMTs.

arcadelt · 2 October 2017, 05:08 PM

I don’t really get the need for perpetual or annual calendars, but given those two, it would depend on where and when you intend to wear it. If it’s a dress watch for work, then the PP. If it’s for more casual dress, then Rolex, although I'm not a great fan of the Skydweller.

Wildy · 2 October 2017, 05:25 PM

PP for me. Two very different watches. Bang for buck the Rolex wins, but for timeless classic the Patek.

Andad · 2 October 2017, 07:12 PM

The Patek is a pass for me.

I don't need my watch to tell me the month and the day in a text that is waaaay too big.

The SkyDweller is a Rolex masterpiece of engineering and is THE one to choose in this race.

Flex368 · 2 October 2017, 07:28 PM

Just based on looks I prefer the 5146. In terms of appreciation they´re probably both equally bad.

The Libertine · 2 October 2017, 07:30 PM

Patek.

1William · 2 October 2017, 09:03 PM

Neither for me. I would go PM in the Submariner, GMT or DD. All of those watches from Rolex are tanks and will last. I have just moved out of a YG and WG Sky-Dweller's on bracelets and they are massive watches. I did not need the complication and did not like the dial. I admire PP for design and history but have no interest in ownership based on a blending of cost and service times.

returntorolex · 2 October 2017, 09:11 PM

Patek

Racerdj · 2 October 2017, 09:18 PM

The Patek is the winner with your comments.

brandrea · 2 October 2017, 09:35 PM

I know it's not an option listed, but I'd take the PP 5960 over either of these two.

For the money in your example I'd take the SkyDweller.

travisb · 2 October 2017, 10:11 PM

Don't particularly care for the 5146. If it was another AC it might be a tougher decision but the SkyD wins it.

RaceDoc11 · 2 October 2017, 10:12 PM

SkyD

HogwldFLTR · 2 October 2017, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sensui

I didn't see anything in OP's post about daily use...the question is about timelessness, class, elegance...the Patek to me is the hands down winner.

But it did say what would you pick. I would not own the Patek. No amount of word smithing is going to change that.

rw2008 · 2 October 2017, 10:14 PM

If class, elegance and future appreciation is something your going for, this isn't really a competition.

It's Patek hands down.

gummy · 2 October 2017, 10:16 PM

Tough to beat a Patek 5146 for timeless elegant piece.

From an everyday "wear-ability" standpoint...2 totally different pieces

2 October 2017, 02:48 PM	#1
SL BRABUS "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: U.S.A Watch: Only Rolex & Patek Posts: 3,345	2nd opinion, which 1 would you pick....?? For long term ownership which annual calendar would you pick between those two...??... For the CLASS, the ELEGANT, the LOOK, the TIMELESS & appreciation in a reasonable future of 10 plus years & so on..... PM Rolex Skydweller (OR) PM Patek Philippe 5146 Those are your choice.....^^^... Thanks.... Best Regards, Tony __________________ Rolex Forum: Mainly Rolex & Benz pictures...!!! Click the above link to join the club...^^^... "SL BRABUS" aka BenzWorld Undercover Moderator

2 October 2017, 03:07 PM	#8
Ruud Van Driver "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Chopped Liver Location: S. Wales Valleys Watch: Mickey Mouse Posts: 9,924	SkyD for me. Both are beautiful but the Patek doesn’t do it for me. It’s not a tool watch, it’s not designed to take a wallop, I get that. But I’d like to wear something that I wasn’t afraid of catching on a door jam or something. __________________ 116520 Black, 116610 LVc, 116660 D-Blue, 116610 LNc, 116622 Blue, PAM359, PAM689, PAM737 *"Why should you allow an AD to shake you down, just so you can buy a watch" - Grady Philpott* Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

2 October 2017, 03:20 PM	#13
Nav01L "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Fred Location: Zurich Posts: 2,697	Neither. Would go for the WG Sky-D __________________ Greetings from Switzerland Remember, the dignity you surrender at your AD‘s doorstep will never be recovered by wearing the watch he may get you.

2 October 2017, 05:25 PM	#18
Wildy "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: UK Posts: 500	PP for me. Two very different watches. Bang for buck the Rolex wins, but for timeless classic the Patek. __________________ Rolex DSSD JC, Rolex GMT LN,Rolex DJ41 silver fluted on jubilee,Rolex Yacht-master blue dial, IWC Ingenieur 3227, Omega Speedmaster Moonwatch 3861, Tudor P01. Bremont ALT , Hamilton Khaki Below Zero

2 October 2017, 07:12 PM	#19
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,858	The Patek is a pass for me. I don't need my watch to tell me the month and the day in a text that is waaaay too big. The SkyDweller is a Rolex masterpiece of engineering and is THE one to choose in this race. __________________ E

2 October 2017, 02:52 PM	#2
Jackflash "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Zurich Watch: 5167a Posts: 109	5146. It's on a different level. More understated, more elegant, and the movement decoration is outstanding.

2 October 2017, 02:56 PM	#3
WS9D "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Steve Location: Shasta Watch: es..More Watches! Posts: 2,371	I'd go SkyD. I feel it will put up with the abuses of my life style (and 5 year old) better than the PP as gorgeous as it is. I love moon phase complications, but imho, the SkyD ticks the requested boxes for me more. Not to mention, when your eyes go, the cyclops will help you see the date lol...

2 October 2017, 02:59 PM	#5
sensui 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 12,366	Sorry Rolex it's the Patek for me on this one.

2 October 2017, 03:04 PM	#7
machob55 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: US Posts: 1,119	The Patek is to die for....superbly elegant. But that Skydweller...well, you fill in the gaps. Good luck with your decision! Sent from my R1 HD using Tapatalk

2 October 2017, 03:12 PM	#9
hambone1983 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Real Name: Rick Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,231	I'd take the Patek. Especially based on the criteria given by OP. No comparison, IMHO

2 October 2017, 03:14 PM	#11
Cru Jones 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 34,525	I like the 5146, but not so much in that color combo. So, it's the SkyD for me.

2 October 2017, 03:24 PM	#14
OahuHorologist 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Alex Location: Hawaii Watch: Speedmaster Posts: 400	Agree the Patek is the best choice here!

2 October 2017, 04:07 PM	#15
rominvicta 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: EU Watch: DSSD, BLNR, SM, GM Posts: 931	Depends what you look for. Watch to wear or a treasure to bear? SkyD of course!

2 October 2017, 05:08 PM	#17
arcadelt "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Monaro, NSW Posts: 846	I don’t really get the need for perpetual or annual calendars, but given those two, it would depend on where and when you intend to wear it. If it’s a dress watch for work, then the PP. If it’s for more casual dress, then Rolex, although I'm not a great fan of the Skydweller.

2 October 2017, 07:28 PM	#20
Flex368 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Felix Location: GMT +1 Watch: Yes! Posts: 2,975	Just based on looks I prefer the 5146. In terms of appreciation they´re probably both equally bad.

2 October 2017, 07:30 PM	#21
The Libertine Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Mike Location: BOS Watch: 16710;14060;214270 Posts: 6,375	Patek.

2 October 2017, 09:03 PM	#22
1William 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 44,909	Neither for me. I would go PM in the Submariner, GMT or DD. All of those watches from Rolex are tanks and will last. I have just moved out of a YG and WG Sky-Dweller's on bracelets and they are massive watches. I did not need the complication and did not like the dial. I admire PP for design and history but have no interest in ownership based on a blending of cost and service times.

2 October 2017, 09:11 PM	#23
returntorolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Real Name: Steve Location: Atlanta Watch: Jackie Stewart DD Posts: 5,649	Patek __________________ Rolex - Tudor - Omega - Breitling - Oris - Grand Seiko - Timex - Casio - Ocean Crawler - Ganymede - American Waltham - Seiko - Gruen - Arethusa - Citizen - Sinn - Nodus - Formex

2 October 2017, 09:18 PM	#24
Racerdj 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indianapolis Watch: Patek-Philippe Posts: 16,832	The Patek is the winner with your comments. __________________ Rolex and Patek Philippe

2 October 2017, 09:35 PM	#25
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 73,878	I know it's not an option listed, but I'd take the PP 5960 over either of these two. For the money in your example I'd take the SkyDweller.

2 October 2017, 10:11 PM	#26
travisb 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 32,287	Don't particularly care for the 5146. If it was another AC it might be a tougher decision but the SkyD wins it.

2 October 2017, 10:12 PM	#27
RaceDoc11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: USA Watch: GMTs Posts: 254	SkyD

2 October 2017, 10:14 PM	#29
rw2008 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex AP Patek Posts: 659	If class, elegance and future appreciation is something your going for, this isn't really a competition. It's Patek hands down.

2 October 2017, 10:16 PM	#30
gummy 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Thomas Location: Midwest USA Watch: AP PP Rolex Posts: 3,302	Tough to beat a Patek 5146 for timeless elegant piece. From an everyday "wear-ability" standpoint...2 totally different pieces

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