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13 March 2020, 03:51 PM | #31 |
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Damn! Sorry to hear OP. So many scumbags in the world.
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15 March 2020, 06:37 AM | #32 | |
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15 March 2020, 11:43 AM | #33 | |
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It is beyond me how anyone can spend their hard-earned cash on a purchase from a stranger without even making a simple phone call to confirm the details of a purchase and obtain some background info on the seller that can be readily verified. And, to the op, I'm in Dallas, and if you need any help on your next purchase, contact me and I'll be more than happy to help. Just send me a private message here on the forum.
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15 March 2020, 11:49 AM | #34 | |
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15 March 2020, 12:03 PM | #35 | |
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This is totally right. So many amazing sellers on this forum. Buyers need to take most of the responsibility for their own well being. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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15 March 2020, 12:17 PM | #36 |
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It these classy posts that can also do that.
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15 March 2020, 12:35 PM | #37 | |
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Not a lot of big sellers will allow PayPal or cc. It’s bank wire or nothing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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15 March 2020, 11:30 PM | #38 | |
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caution to the wind and send them a box of 100 dollar bills before I even receive or see the piece to someone I have never met! Really are you crazy?? Btw, take a little survey w EVERY person who got scammed on this forum or had a piece come that wasn’t complete or as represented- I can assure you their won’t be one who doesn’t wish they had followed this rule. As a buyer , I don’t are how much the seller squeals or protests, I must protect myself - period ! |
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16 March 2020, 01:57 AM | #39 | |
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You’re not really researching the seller then. You wouldn’t wire money to DavidSW? HQ? Takuya? The Pope? C’mon. Higher risk of getting killed by a TRex than losing money wired to these guys. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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16 March 2020, 03:36 AM | #40 |
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16 March 2020, 04:26 AM | #41 |
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I'm sorry OP, terrible feeling to get scammed
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16 March 2020, 05:21 AM | #42 | |
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You are incorrect. Not “any” big seller. The mass majority, nearly all of them, will say no thanks. Nobody needs your business that bad. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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23 March 2020, 12:53 PM | #43 |
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This is Watchie
Hi, all. Very sorry to hear that the buyer was scammed. It appears someone hacked my account or otherwise was able to represent himself to be me.
I am taking steps to change my password, and hope that helps. I guess this is a lesson for all of us. If there is anything I can do please let me know. Jim |
24 March 2020, 01:13 AM | #44 |
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Sorry about your loss, pasant71. I am going thru the same thing. See my thread "BOLO Sub no-date SCAM". If you finally find what you are looking for and the seller only takes wire transfer, you are between a rock and a hard place. If you look at the ads, you will see the majority only take wire transfer. Maybe an escrow arrangement would help. Although I've never bought from them, Chrono24 works that way.
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24 March 2020, 05:22 AM | #45 |
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Well I would also only accept a solid wire transfer.
Sellers can get scammed too, been there done that: it’s so easy to charge back a paypal transaction that you as a seller may easily end up without the money and without the watch. |
24 March 2020, 10:14 AM | #46 |
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I spoke today via phone with the real Watchie. Good guy. Long time member. His account was hacked but it seems he is banned permanently. He should be allowed to rejoin in my opinion. I made a mistake too in not doing enough due diligence, phone call, etc before the transaction soured. Jim is a good guy.
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24 March 2020, 10:21 AM | #47 | |
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24 March 2020, 10:31 AM | #48 | |
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I do appreciate him reaching out. We visited by phone. Something he did not need to do but it was a good conversation. |
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26 March 2020, 12:12 AM | #49 |
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I have to applaud you on sharing your unpleasant experience with the rest of us. Hopefully this will make TRF members less susceptible to future scams.
Still worth knowing the exact anatomy of the scam - it appears "Watchie"'s account was hacked and an item posted for sale using his account and good reputation - correct? I also am an audiophile, and have bought equipment on Audiogon and US audio mart - an additional technique that helps me stay safe is to google the name of the person Im buying from or selling to - one is amazed at the info available about someone out there - I have walked away from transactions if the person's profile appears dodgy. |
26 March 2020, 01:09 AM | #50 |
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