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Old 29 May 2009, 12:27 PM   #1
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Rolex GMT IIC Bezel Insert fell off!

The bezel insert fell off my watch today for no apparent reason. I had taken it off to go through airport security and when I went to put it back on the bezel had separated and was missing. Luckily, I located the ceramic insert where I had taken the watch off! I did not drop it or hit it against anything. I tried to get back in place but I was unable to. Has anyone else had this problem? I guess I will be visiting my AD tomorrow. Any thoughts?
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Old 29 May 2009, 12:30 PM   #2
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I have heard of a couple of these ceramic inserts falling out for no reason..

Let us know what the watchmaker says if you can talk to him........
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Old 29 May 2009, 05:34 PM   #3
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I have heard of a couple of these ceramic inserts falling out for no reason..

Let us know what the watchmaker says if you can talk to him........
Interesting.... The old style bezels snap into place, any idea how the ceramics inserts are seated?
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Old 29 May 2009, 12:31 PM   #4
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Old 29 May 2009, 12:34 PM   #5
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YIKES!!! Hope you get it all fixed up.
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Old 29 May 2009, 12:36 PM   #6
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Thanks, I am just glad I did not lose the insert. Evidently, they are expensive to replace.
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Old 29 May 2009, 12:55 PM   #7
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Gosh, I haven't heard of this happening before.....I'm sure your AD will take care of it. Keep us posted.
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Old 29 May 2009, 01:02 PM   #8
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Good thing you didn't lose it! Hope it turns out ok!
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Old 29 May 2009, 01:13 PM   #9
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WTF?

That sucks....but it could have been worse had you not found it.
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Old 29 May 2009, 01:21 PM   #10
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I take it the steel part of the bezel is still intact?....wow, what a shocker....I would really like to know why it happened, sure all other owners would too, Mark had a bit of a worry the other day about bezel movement, not sure if you saw the thread, but the insert falling out....that really is something to be concerned about........I really hope it gets fixed and please let us know what happens and what they say at the AD........
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Old 29 May 2009, 01:46 PM   #11
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Oh boy that was a first for the most popular watch in TRF!!!
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Old 29 May 2009, 02:08 PM   #12
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WOW! Worse than having a crown fall out! Good Luck! Now I am paranoid for my GMTIICTT!
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Old 29 May 2009, 02:13 PM   #13
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that would have certainly ruined my day...

glad you found the insert!
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Old 29 May 2009, 02:15 PM   #14
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When I am about to go through Airport security, I always place my watch in my carry that goes into the xray machine. I hate the thought of taking it off and putting it in one of those buckets that a bunch of people before my have put their stuff in! Why would you take the bezel off at all anyway?
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Old 29 May 2009, 04:00 PM   #15
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Is the watch still under warranty? If so I would just tell Rolex it fell off and you lost it. That should NEVER happen on such a new watch. Is Rolex starting to make junk now? Is that insert just glued in?
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Old 29 May 2009, 04:23 PM   #16
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Hmmm, I just ran to check mine. Perfectly snug.
Yep, the coronet at 12 is still slightly crooked though. I sure wish that would fix itself!
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Old 29 May 2009, 05:54 PM   #17
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very worrying
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Old 29 May 2009, 06:28 PM   #18
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No matter how good a QC any company has, there are bound to be a few lemons here and there.

then again, having said that, i have read many stories from WTF, WUS, Timezone, etc about how the GMTIIc bezel breaks, drops off, etc.

However, I rem seeing that there was a poll some where about how true these statements are. In the end, out of numerous post, there was never 1 actual photo to justify.

I am not trying to state anything here, but it would be good if this claim can be accompanied by some photos? btw, thanks for making this your virgin post in TRF :)
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Old 5 June 2009, 07:18 PM   #19
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Old 29 May 2009, 06:33 PM   #20
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sad news any chance post some pics gs430
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Old 29 May 2009, 06:37 PM   #21
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In the GMT II, the insert is held down with a spring pin like device.

Wonder if the newer GMT IIc is the same?

Bit of a bummer, what?
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Old 29 May 2009, 07:01 PM   #22
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A GMT IIc won't set off an airport security scanner, whatever the staff might tell you. So just wear it through :)
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Old 29 May 2009, 11:54 PM   #23
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Rolex didn't "glue" it right?
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Old 30 May 2009, 01:29 AM   #24
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In the GMT II, the insert is held down with a spring pin like device.

Wonder if the newer GMT IIc is the same?

Bit of a bummer, what?
Neither the insert nor the bezel are held in place by a spring on the classic GMT II, they both snap in/on & are held in place by tension alone. The spring is solely for the clicking action of bezel movement.
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Old 30 May 2009, 01:33 AM   #25
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Neither the insert nor the bezel are held in place by a spring on the classic GMT II, they both snap in/on & are held in place by tension alone. The spring is solely for the clicking action of bezel movement.
Confirmed here as well.
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Old 30 May 2009, 01:58 PM   #26
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Neither the insert nor the bezel are held in place by a spring on the classic GMT II, they both snap in/on & are held in place by tension alone. The spring is solely for the clicking action of bezel movement.
True. And this worries me about the ceramic bezel falling out, because I know when I replace the Aluminum bezel on the old GMT model, it feels like you have to bend it that last little bit to get the final "snap" into position.... and ceramic, it don't bend so well. So, I wonder how you'd press it back in.

Oh, and confirmed for at least the older style GMTII that you can wear it through security without it setting off the alarm. Of course, it depends on the particular TSA agent you have and their loggerheadedness when it comes to such things.
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Old 30 May 2009, 02:03 PM   #27
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the thing is that, i have been hearing loads of such claims for this model. sometimes wonder is it due to the popularity.

How come no one claimed that the DSSD bezel fell off?
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Old 31 May 2009, 01:33 AM   #28
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In the GMT II, the insert is held down with a spring pin like device.

Wonder if the newer GMT IIc is the same?

Bit of a bummer, what?

On all the older models the insert was held in through an interference fit, you had to clip it in almost like a circlip, but without the entire lip. The spring pin was just there for turning the bezels, on the new ceramics they've removed this and use a ceramic ball bearing if i remember correctly.
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Old 29 May 2009, 06:39 PM   #29
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Agreed....there seems to be no photographic evidence of any damage caused to a ceramic bezel, or of the bezel removed...I really hope gs430 gets his/her bezel fettled.....loads of pictures for the earlier Aluminium bezel inserts, I for one would like to see what's under there......it would be good for all owners to see what happened as well as hear/read
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Old 29 May 2009, 07:08 PM   #30
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is it possible that you hit the watch by accident somewhere before?
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