Anyone know where to get one of these springbar pliers used by Rolex?

[beer]

Rolex 3200 because it takes $3200 to acquire

[Equus]

I have ordered the Horofix pliers from Esslinger. Sadly they are out of stock, although they had one in stock that I bought, payed with credit card and got a confirmation email too.

A couple of hours later Esslinger emailed me and said that they haven't got any, and that I have to wait for three weeks for them to resupply. I have a Toshi shell cordovan strap I would like to try on, that would have to wait now.

[Wingman244]

Just get the Bergeon 7825 from Ofrei. Yeah it costs a lot but it works like a charm on my E2 216570. It is the right tool for the job and seems/looks to be a copy of the infamous 3200 tool. I change my bracelet/straps in 30 secs.

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by Equus

I have ordered the Horofix pliers from Esslinger. Sadly they are out of stock, although they had one in stock that I bought, payed with credit card and got a confirmation email too.

A couple of hours later Esslinger emailed me and said that they haven't got any, and that I have to wait for three weeks for them to resupply. I have a Toshi shell cordovan strap I would like to try on, that would have to wait now.

I hope they're still selling it at the $89 price. It works really well.

[cosmoliu]

I found these at Otto Frei. Obviously, the price intrigued me, being 1/2 the price of the Horofix, and 1/4 the price of the Bergeon. The URL for the page is

http://www.ofrei.com/page252.html#19566

They do require taking off a little width at the tips, but it took less than 5 minutes of dragging the tips across a piece of "Fine" emery cloth. Once they fit into the channel for the spring bar in the end link, they work like a charm. With a little practice, it takes literally seconds to remove or install the bracelet. The key is to hold the end link steady against the work surface with enough downward pressure to compress the spring bar, and move the watch head away from or to meet the end link, just like in the video in the OP.

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by cosmoliu

I found these at Otto Frei. Obviously, the price intrigued me, being 1/2 the price of the Horofix, and 1/4 the price of the Bergeon. The URL for the page is

http://www.ofrei.com/page252.html#19566

They do require taking off a little width at the tips, but it took less than 5 minutes of dragging the tips across a piece of "Fine" emery cloth. Once they fit into the channel for the spring bar in the end link, they work like a charm. With a little practice, it takes literally seconds to remove or install the bracelet. The key is to hold the end link steady against the work surface with enough downward pressure to compress the spring bar, and move the watch head away from or to meet the end link, just like in the video in the OP.

I bought those and they didn't work on my Rolex, can't remember if they were too big or too little, plus you would need to unscrew the bracelet at the clasp to even be able to use them. I ended getting the Regine tweezers, can't remember exactly but they may have cost $150 or something but they do work better than anything else I've tried.

[cosmoliu]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

I bought those and they didn't work on my Rolex, can't remember if they were too big or too little, plus you would need to unscrew the bracelet at the clasp to even be able to use them. I ended getting the Regine tweezers, can't remember exactly but they may have cost $150 or something but they do work better than anything else I've tried.

The Horotecs can be used with the bracelet still on, by positioning the narrowest part of the clasp over the end link. However, I find that the time taken to separate the clasp parts is well worth it, as that allows for the watch head to be fully mobilized while holding the end link steady. I don't dispute that any of the more expensive solutions might work better; I don't own any of those. I can say that it works adequately for my needs and, once trimmed down to size, engages the spring bar solidly.

[Elan]

Has anyone used any of these on a Milgauss?

[HogwldFLTR]

Originally Posted by Elan

Has anyone used any of these on a Milgauss?

There's nothing special about the Milgauss bracelet; it'll work. Just order the fine tipped tool.

[HogwldFLTR]

These look like they'd do the trick as well...

http://www.esslinger.com/horofix-wat...ers-band-tool/

[burgerkong]

Well I wanted to see if I could make one, voila here's my 'Folex Ref. 3200' :

[Rolexbiker]

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Watch...08.8.48.KJpQlu


But these can be found in the US

[WannaGMT]

Do these work?

Originally Posted by burgerkong

Well I wanted to see if I could make one, voila here's my 'Folex Ref. 3200' :

[nakedtoes]

I got a 1 dollar tweezer and file the tips and do abit of bending and it works like Charm for rolex watches but not on other brands like omega and patek.

[Cabernet]

Horofix $89, great!

http://www.rolexforums.com/showpost....&postcount=889

[Glidelock]

Originally Posted by phrede

...And it works!!!!!
Got mine today, and it fits perfectly for my 116600 :-)

http://www.watch-tool.de/html/bracel....php?id=0090dv

Originally Posted by NA5AR

This works the same way?

Quick Question for any of you that have experience with one or both of these tools...

I am relatively proficient using a standard spring bar tool to change straps. In fact I would even argue that I'm very proficient. That said, am getting to the point that I would like the convenience the tweezer types offer.

1st question is: I have an SD4K, a SubC and a Tudor BB...is the Regine (1st set of pics shown) Tweezer "S" as pictured the right size for all of these? I ask, as in the website it also has a larger size available, but am assuming that the link for he size "S" was given on thread purposely!

2nd: I can pick up the adjustable Horofix for about $90 US shipped, but my understanding is that they are actually slightly more clumsy to use. Anyone have any thoughts?

[modee]

Is the Bergeon 6825 better for the Rolex bracelets or the Horoflix springbar pliers?

http://www.esslinger.com/horofix-wat...ers-band-tool/
Horoflix comes with 1.0 and 1.4mm tips

http://www.esslinger.com/bergeon-682...tch-band-tool/
Bergeon with either 1.10 x 0.23 or 1.30 x 0.33 mm tips.

For that matter, has anyone used the one from AliExpress?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Watch...08.8.48.KJpQlu
Aliexpress seems to come with both 1.10 x 0.23 and 1.30 x 0.33 mm tips.

What about the Regine?
http://www.watch-tool.de/html/bracel....php?id=0090dv
Appears to have 1.20 mm tips.

Are these all the same or does one work better than the other for Rolexes? Writings above depict the need to file the tips anyway, or will the fine tipped ones work without modification?


I already have the Bergeon 6767 spring bar tool but it's a little scary to use one slip and could scratch.

[mui.richard]

I use the Bergeon 7825, a breeze to use and never an issue. It's essentially the same as the one issued by Rolex to their ADs.



a watch is meant to be worn

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by Glidelock

1st question is: I have an SD4K, a SubC and a Tudor BB...is the Regine (1st set of pics shown) Tweezer "S" as pictured the right size for all of these? I ask, as in the website it also has a larger size available, but am assuming that the link for he size "S" was given on thread purposely!?

Have the same question myself, wonder is small is the one being recommended here

[Glidelock]

Originally Posted by fskywalker

Have the same question myself, wonder is small is the one being recommended here

After having asked this question, and not seeing a response from anyone, I did some additional research. It is my understanding that it is in fact the "S" small sized that works on Rolex Oyster bracelets.

That said, I did not purchase that product, as I ultimately bit the bullet and purchased the Bergeon 7825. Although not cheap, it sure does do the job easily and efficiently!

[VSOP333]

Long time listener, first time caller. Alot of people still read this thread since it began in 2012. As mentioned before, all of the website links have made the retailers opportunistic to an extent. There is profit and then there is gouging which is when the price of something doubles based on a big boost in demand or interest. It's too bad when aliexpress type versions of these tools become a viable option. I used a Bergeon 7825 at a jeweler I know and it worked well. Replacement tips are $129 set though. A friend paid full price for the Regine 220015 in Small and they are great. I'm leaning towards the Regine b/c I've never broken a tip on one-piece tweezers but if I did it would be cheaper to repair it or replace it than what Bergeon tips alone cost. Thank you to everyone who has gone over the options so thoroughly.

[Elan]

Originally Posted by VSOP333

Long time listener, first time caller. Alot of people still read this thread since it began in 2012. As mentioned before, all of the website links have made the retailers opportunistic to an extent. There is profit and then there is gouging which is when the price of something doubles based on a big boost in demand or interest. It's too bad when aliexpress type versions of these tools become a viable option. I used a Bergeon 7825 at a jeweler I know and it worked well. Replacement tips are $129 set though. A friend paid full price for the Regine 220015 in Small and they are great. I'm leaning towards the Regine b/c I've never broken a tip on one-piece tweezers but if I did it would be cheaper to repair it or replace it than what Bergeon tips alone cost. Thank you to everyone who has gone over the options so thoroughly.

I got the Bergeon hoping it would make things simple. Not really for me at least. Don't think it's worth the price. (I paid $90.)


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[VSOP333]

It's likely worthwhile at $90 which is what they were before the gouging.

[sheldonsmith]

It comes down to your tolerance for scratches and botched reinstalls (and the accompanying cuss words when that happens). Get the correct tool for the job and it will cost less in the long run.