1675 pepsi general condition question

[4rnold]

Hi guys,

I'd like some opinions on this 1675 IV from 1968. It's from my favorite dealer. I like it , but what to think about the scratches on the bezel? I think it is in an honest condition considering it's age. But 16950 us dollar. Is it justified? Seems expensive.No box no paper

While for almost the same price i can have this from phillip at exotic watches. http://www.exoticwatches.net/all-wat...mkiv-gmt-1675/


Thx

[1675-David]

I'd go for this one, love the case, look very well defined and sharp for a watch of that age, the one at exotic watches looks like a refurbished case which for me is a big minus. Box and papers don't light my candle either!!

[4rnold]

Thank you for your insight. I was just hesitating because of the inlay. But I guess thats peer pressure 😀

[springer]

Originally Posted by 4rnold

Thank you for your insight. I was just hesitating because of the inlay. But I guess thats peer pressure 😀

Bezel inserts can be very personal. Some like faded inserts, some prefer brighter more colorful inserts, some prefer inserts when the red has changed to a pink, orange or fuchsia color and some even prefer scratched-up inserts with all their original battle scars. Inserts can be changed very easily and should be taken into consideration when making a purchase.

[4rnold]

Originally Posted by springer

Bezel inserts can be very personal. Some like faded inserts, some prefer brighter more colorful inserts, some prefer inserts when the red has changed to a pink, orange or fuchsia color and some even prefer scratched-up inserts with all their original battle scars. Inserts can be changed very easily and should be taken into consideration when making a purchase.

Thank you Springer for your sound advice, very welcome.

However, do you mean: should NOT be taken into account? Because they can be changed easily?

[Tom1675]

Id go for this one. Refinished cases don't work for me with an aged insert, looks out of place... Also, i just like an earlier example...

If you're not comfortable with the price, then don't do it. Personally I think the price is a little high, but not much and if the piece is singing to you and you know/trust the dealer maybe there is a deal to be made...

[springer]

Originally Posted by 4rnold

Thank you Springer for your sound advice, very welcome.

However, do you mean: should NOT be taken into account? Because they can be changed easily?

In answer to your captioned question, no, I meant "taken into account" when placing a value on the watch since they are easily changed.

If a watch has a "ratty" insert, I wouldn't place much value on the insert. Ratty being excessively scratched, dinged-up or missing pieces or bits of the aluminum insert that has corroded away.

If I am buying a 1675 priced at $15,000 which I value at $15,000 with a decent insert and it has a $200 service insert or a 50-cent ratty insert, I would make an offer accordingly. If I'm buying a nice GMT for $15,000 and it has a decent insert but I do not care for the fade found on the insert and it is one that I could sell and shop for one I liked, then I wouldn't worry too much about the current insert.

Decent inserts are around $1500 and nice ones are are $2,000 on up.

[4rnold]

Ok Springer, I understand it completely now. I agree with you completely. That being said, I must admit that I do love the inlay on the watch I posted. I just want to make sure that it's not "stupid" to buy it in that condition. I think that in the end it's ok , but must be priced accordingly. I'm pretty sure that the seller isnt going to drop the price a lot. But, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and in the end I let the heart speak (within reasonable limits). I never have been a business man. But you helped me a lot.

Thanks for the aswers guys!