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I am looking at a 1984 16660. I have a few questions. 1. It states it has a service case, what does that mean? 2. The serial number starts with 8,4XX,XXX but the case is 4490644, is that normal? Watch is for sale at HQmilton. Thank you all!
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#1: "Service case" means the case has been replaced. The 'most likely' cause being physically damaged.
#2: I do not know about.
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Yes, service cases are in the 4.4 serial range, so that's correct. Nothing wrong with a service case, as long as the watch is priced accordingly. It's not original to the watch, of course, so it takes a hit value-wise. However, the good news is that it should be a super nice fat case, so if complete originality isn't mandatory for you, it shouldn't be an issue. |
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price is $7,350.00
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Gloss dial?
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1. As stated above, completely new case which means new serial number as well (to designate that it's a service case). As long as the price reflects it, up to you whether you "accept" it. Some folks prefer to have all original watches, some don't.
2. Serial on case is different to designate that it's a service case. They start with "44XXXXX".
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As you are new to vintage, and I can’t predict how long you might keep a vintage SD, my suggestion is to find one without issues that require explaining.
Now if the seller is providing the original Rolex Warranty certificate, the Itemized RSC Service Order noting the new service case and it’s own serial number, and you can’t wait...then you could ask for a bit better pricing IMHO. (Edit) Just checked his listing - a J3 clasp code means the bracelet may not be original either - that dates to a 1985 issue. Again, maybe fairly close to original but do you need to be explaining this to some future buyer? Also he has a 1999 SD for $6750 that will become vintage in 10 years if you’re thinking of holding onto it that long. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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thanks all, I've moved on from it. I am looking at a 168000. Not much information on the watch.
R388XXX serial number dating production to approximately 1987.
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This thread has me confused. In the original post, it reads it has a, "serial number of 8,4XX,XXX but the case is 4490644, is that normal?"
First off, if the original case was replaced with a service case with a 4.4 million serial number, how would you know what the old serial number was 8.4 million? Is there something from Rolex documenting this case replacement?
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Sorry my brain tends to go a million miles a minute. I am looking at a 168000 now due to the fact I am not comfortable with a service case.
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I had a red Sub at one time with the original dial and hands with a service case (4.4 million) and RSC paperwork which contained the original serial number but nothing on the case back with the original number. Interesting about the case backs being engraved as you mentioned. That's a new one on me.
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Wow, is that gorgeous. Nice photography, too.
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