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speedy_master1 · 8 September 2012, 10:17 PM

which omega speed master would u buy the hesalite crystal or the sapphire crystal?

Kingair · 8 September 2012, 10:21 PM

The older the better . . . at least for me

I would opt for a pre moon 321 movement . .

Just my .02

Good luck in your hunt

HAGWe

malarky_hk · 8 September 2012, 10:24 PM

Sapphire sandwich for me, please!

Monte Cristo · 8 September 2012, 10:25 PM

This thread needs to be moved to the Omega section (mods do your magic!) and someone like fr John can chime in with his excellent knowledge..

I initially wanted the hesalite as this is the closest to the original, although the sapphire sandwich has the benefit of being able to see the movement...so for an extra couple hundred bucks I'd got for the sandwich...

TakesALickin · 8 September 2012, 10:39 PM

376.0822... the one Chuck Maddox labeled "the grail".

ChronoMaddox

The GMT Master · 8 September 2012, 10:42 PM

I went for the hesalite, as I think that's the definitive Speedmaster. Scratches are minimal on it after a year's near-daily wear. Some people prefer the durability of sapphire, but I think the watch loses a bit of its warmth, and I find sapphire really attracts grease and is difficult to keep clean - you don't get the same problem with hesalite. However, you do get the display caseback on the sapphire version, and the cal. 1861 (like any manual wind chronograph movement) is truly beautiful to behold

jmsrolls · 8 September 2012, 10:50 PM

I've owned a couple of dozen Speedy Pros over the years including two with sapphire crystals.

I much prefer the hesalite. It is more authentic and has a warmer feel and look. The sapphire crystal has a gray "halo" adjacent to the bezel that detracts and obscures the dial.

And IMO, the fear of hesalite scratches is a non-issue. I have been wearing my vintage 105.012 (same model worn by Armstrong) in regular rotation for eight years. During that time, I have had to polish the crystal only one time. A dab of Polywatch with a couple of minutes of polishing and the crystal looked like new.

And hesalite will not shatter like sapphire which is the reason NASA Speedies are hesalite only. Not only would crystal fragments floating in a capsule be a problem in space, they would also be a problem on earth. Those pieces could enter the movement and create serious movement problems.

Go for the real Speedy Pro, go hesalite.

dsio · 8 September 2012, 11:50 PM

Hesalite all the way, its not just that it can be polished, the large domed surface makes the speedy hesalite more forgiving than say a 1680 sub which has a sharp edge to its crystal and a flat crystal surface. These are just way easy to maintain

AzPaul · 9 September 2012, 01:21 AM

How do you all feel about the pros and cons of Superluminova?

Billythekid · 9 September 2012, 01:35 AM

The latest speedmaster with 9300 movt is a cool watch the see through movement in the back looks great

Sent from my 

capote · 9 September 2012, 02:38 AM

Hesalite moon watch for the win

JP Chestnut · 9 September 2012, 07:25 AM

I really like the "first Omega in space" watch that's coming out now/soon. If it came on a bracelet, that's the one that I would buy.

Tudor66 · 9 September 2012, 07:34 AM

A seller on TRF is selling a excellent condition 1974 moonwatch. This thing has a great dial and hands. If my wrists weren't so damm small it would still be in my collection...

Watchmutt · 9 September 2012, 09:35 AM

Hesalite. It is really easy to maintain.

Mickey® · 9 September 2012, 09:41 AM

Hesalite. I chose this one...so it was a little different!

slim4511 · 9 September 2012, 02:43 PM

I would go for the hesalite. That particular model is very high on my wish list.

Feras · 9 September 2012, 03:55 PM

3570.5 the real deal. Plus the price is better :)

timenut · 9 September 2012, 04:11 PM

The Speedies I like in the order of preference : 1) Mitsukoshi LE 2) 3572.50 3) 3570.50

8 September 2012, 10:17 PM	#1
speedy_master1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: california Watch: can't decide. Posts: 2,477	which omega speedmaster? which omega speed master would u buy the hesalite crystal or the sapphire crystal?

8 September 2012, 10:25 PM	#4
Monte Cristo "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Sydney Watch: ing you... Posts: 3,775	This thread needs to be moved to the Omega section (mods do your magic!) and someone like fr John can chime in with his excellent knowledge.. I initially wanted the hesalite as this is the closest to the original, although the sapphire sandwich has the benefit of being able to see the movement...so for an extra couple hundred bucks I'd got for the sandwich... __________________ 'I am easily satisfied with the very best' - Winston Churchill

8 September 2012, 10:39 PM	#5
TakesALickin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Jeff Location: Indianapolis Watch: Seiko SBDX001 Posts: 256	376.0822... the one Chuck Maddox labeled "the grail". ChronoMaddox __________________ Living on a ledge, just past the edge...

8 September 2012, 11:50 PM	#8
dsio "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Ashley Location: Brisbane Watch: Rolex Sub 1680 '79 Posts: 2,301	Hesalite all the way, its not just that it can be polished, the large domed surface makes the speedy hesalite more forgiving than say a 1680 sub which has a sharp edge to its crystal and a flat crystal surface. These are just way easy to maintain __________________ -- Omega Seamaster Grand-Lux Stepped Pie-Pan 14K Gold OJ2627 '53 -- -- Omega Cal 320 Chronograph 18K Gold OT2872 '58 -- -- Omega Cal 321 Speedmaster Pro 145.012 '67 -- -- Rolex Submariner 1680 "Ghost" '79 -- -- Rolex SS Daytona 116520 '04 --

9 September 2012, 07:34 AM	#13
Tudor66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Al Location: California, USA Watch: GMT- Pepsi Posts: 3,462	A seller on TRF is selling a excellent condition 1974 moonwatch. This thing has a great dial and hands. If my wrists weren't so damm small it would still be in my collection... __________________ -NAWCC Member

8 September 2012, 10:21 PM	#2
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Marc Location: SoCal Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	The older the better . . . at least for me I would opt for a pre moon 321 movement . . Just my .02 Good luck in your hunt HAGWe

8 September 2012, 10:24 PM	#3
malarky_hk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: ... Watch: Rolex Posts: 4,466	Sapphire sandwich for me, please!

8 September 2012, 10:42 PM	#6
The GMT Master "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: England Posts: 8,148	I went for the hesalite, as I think that's the definitive Speedmaster. Scratches are minimal on it after a year's near-daily wear. Some people prefer the durability of sapphire, but I think the watch loses a bit of its warmth, and I find sapphire really attracts grease and is difficult to keep clean - you don't get the same problem with hesalite. However, you do get the display caseback on the sapphire version, and the cal. 1861 (like any manual wind chronograph movement) is truly beautiful to behold

8 September 2012, 10:50 PM	#7
jmsrolls Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Posts: 3,185	I've owned a couple of dozen Speedy Pros over the years including two with sapphire crystals. I much prefer the hesalite. It is more authentic and has a warmer feel and look. The sapphire crystal has a gray "halo" adjacent to the bezel that detracts and obscures the dial. And IMO, the fear of hesalite scratches is a non-issue. I have been wearing my vintage 105.012 (same model worn by Armstrong) in regular rotation for eight years. During that time, I have had to polish the crystal only one time. A dab of Polywatch with a couple of minutes of polishing and the crystal looked like new. And hesalite will not shatter like sapphire which is the reason NASA Speedies are hesalite only. Not only would crystal fragments floating in a capsule be a problem in space, they would also be a problem on earth. Those pieces could enter the movement and create serious movement problems. Go for the real Speedy Pro, go hesalite.

9 September 2012, 01:21 AM	#9
AzPaul 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Paul Location: Tucson, Az Watch: Rolex 1501 Posts: 13,203	How do you all feel about the pros and cons of Superluminova?

9 September 2012, 01:35 AM	#10
Billythekid "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: India Posts: 324	The latest speedmaster with 9300 movt is a cool watch the see through movement in the back looks great Sent from my 

9 September 2012, 02:38 AM	#11
capote "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Daniel Location: Sweden Watch: 16570 Posts: 7,315	Hesalite moon watch for the win

9 September 2012, 07:25 AM	#12
JP Chestnut Banned Join Date: May 2012 Location: Ann Arbor MI Watch: Rolex Ref 16600 Posts: 3,908	I really like the "first Omega in space" watch that's coming out now/soon. If it came on a bracelet, that's the one that I would buy.

9 September 2012, 09:35 AM	#14
Watchmutt "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: 116600 Posts: 724	Hesalite. It is really easy to maintain.

9 September 2012, 09:41 AM	#15
Mickey® Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Mickey® Location: Atlanta, GA Watch: Swiss Made Posts: 5,801	Hesalite. I chose this one...so it was a little different!

9 September 2012, 02:43 PM	#16
slim4511 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Detroit Posts: 484	I would go for the hesalite. That particular model is very high on my wish list. __________________ GMT IIc, Exp II, Speedy Pro If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space.

9 September 2012, 03:55 PM	#17
Feras Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Feras Location: Bahrain Watch: Rolex,Tag Posts: 1,923	3570.5 the real deal. Plus the price is better :)

9 September 2012, 04:11 PM	#18
timenut "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Malaysia Posts: 55	The Speedies I like in the order of preference : 1) Mitsukoshi LE 2) 3572.50 3) 3570.50

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