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The problem here is lack of serious competition for Rolex. In terms of quality for the price, there is no one. Omega? IWC? Panerai? Grand Seiko? Please. No one touches Rolex. If you can get your hands on a Rolex, it will outlive you. How many consumer products can you say that about? At the low end you have a million options, and at the high end you have Patek, AP, Journe, and a handful of independents. In the middle? Rolex.
Rolex is an effective monopoly without being a literal monopoly. Which is why we are completely at their mercy when it comes to choice and availability. How I wish there was a true alternative. 1) because I'd like to have some real choice as a consumer and 2) to keep Rolex at least the tiniest bit hungry when it comes to customers. To their credit, they've continued to innovate even without any real need. |
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I wonder how many non-WIS people who buy new Tudor watches feel like they bought Rolex Lite.
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Obviously there’s no way for me to have real numbers but I’m 100% sure they’re not evenly distributed. Datejusts and Day-Dates definitely make up a large percentage of total production followed by the sports models and the Cellini line which is also not produced in crazy numbers.
You can observe this at almost any large AD. They will have many different configs of DJs and DDs (in every PM) and usually 2-3 configs of every sport model at any given time. 3-4 black Sub Dates, some TTs and maybe two gold subs, a couple of TT Daytonas, a couple of gold ones, a steel Yachmaster and YMII and a couple of gold ones, an LN GMT. This was what I usually saw before the shortage.
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Non-WIS might not know that Tudor belongs to Rolex. They may just see the Born to Dare ad campaign with cool looking watches and want one. The various Black Bays are all very, very appealing especially this new BB58 which looks somewhat similar to the original Sub except for the golden numbers on the bezel.
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So do I. Recently I was watching Wild Wild Country on Netflix about the ‘80s Bhagwan Rajneesh cult in Oregon and they showed a couple of catalog style Rolex ads from the late ‘70s/early ‘80s. I immediately went back and hit pause to admire them and get a good look.
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It’s actually pretty entertaining! I went in with no knowledge of what they were or what went down. It’s pretty wild!
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If you want to see the Rolex stuff skip to Part 4 about 14:20 minutes in. Unbelievable this guy ended up having 96 Rolls Royces. Heck I may have to grow a long beard and become a guru myself!
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It amazes me that Rolex releases one new reference and the whole world gets turned upside-down. I look at it from this perspective: with this one release (BLRO SS) coupled with the Tudor Pepsi, Rolex has offered something for everyone. We have options to buy in-house produced Pepsi GMT models ranging anywhere from $3,900 to $30K. Precious metal or stainless steel. Jubilee or Oyster style bracelet. Ceramic or aluminum bezel. We spend 11 months of the year speculating what will come each and every Basel, griping about lack of options. And when we finally get what we've been craving, somehow, Rolex is conspiring against us? Give me a break.
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Also, am I the only TRF member who thinks the blue dial WM BLRO is a cool reference? I’ll never be able to afford it, but I think it’s beautiful.
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The Tudor is a great watch. All kinds of bang for the buck.
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I agree that Tudor is doing a lot of things right. But, are they the new Rolex? I don't think so.
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When Tudor comes out with a cool moon-phase watch, I’m on it. I love the Cellini moon phase concept but think a more standard moon phase complication ‘reads’ better and is more clear. And even if I loved it, I can’t afford it. I’d love a Tudor moon phase — Rolex Cellinis will always be out of reach for me. So, yeah, I’ll take a ‘Rolex Lite’ to go along with my BLNR Batman and much loved YM. |
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Tudor is not Rolex........Many here own both, as do I... Which would be on the chopping block first if you wanted to sell?
I'd be keeping my Rolex period. Tudor has enjoyed a resurgence. Rolex is timeless.... Tudors are nice watches, Rolex are supelative timepieces. IMHO..... |
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I always feel like Tudor products are holding back a bit though. Like they can’t upset the balance of the universe. Whereas Rolex you know you’re holding the absolute perfection or distillation to whatever purpose the watch was designed for sub/Explorer/gmt/datejust.
just my 2c.. I still love tudor watches though. And yes this lifestyle inflation is getting out of hand. 40,000 for a steel Patek Nautilus and 18,000 for a steel ceramic Rolex chronograph. You never can tell you’re in a bubble when you’re in it but when it pops it’ll be all ‘oh it was so obvious’ in hindsight. Especially the vintage market it’s crazy 10-20% increase y-o-y ultimately unsustainable just like the crypto bubble that popped recently. I blame central banker zirp policies. Too much easy money meant to boost the economy merely propping up asset price bubbles including vintage watches and modern Rolex/Patek. |
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