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Old 4 January 2019, 11:52 PM   #121
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Movement finishing you cannot compare the two.
Weird post. You can for sure compare both. I would even argue the. the finishing of the royal oak is better than that of the 5711. Again, you can most definitely compare both watches.
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Old 4 January 2019, 11:54 PM   #122
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I believe that the 15400 will stay in the current line up but I have it on good authority that there may be a new movement and a re-design although relatively minor. I was told by someone who knows someone who works from AP (yeah I know we all heard that before but!) that current owners will probably be happy they have the current version as it is more aesthetically pleasing and balanced (although of course that is down to personal preference). I would only be kicking myself about getting my 15400 blue dial late last year if the new version has a micro adjustment (unlikely) or they change the colour of the dial and make it a brighter blue! I'm sure they will do something great if this is true!


Well I called the boutique and they already confirmed to me that 15400 is no more, and is replaced by new line that will be announced this month?


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Old 5 January 2019, 12:44 AM   #123
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Well I called the boutique and they already confirmed to me that 15400 is no more, and is replaced by new line that will be announced this month?


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Wow - quite a shift then if the new line is that which we saw recently with circular bezel on an octagonal case.

I believe more info is to be released about it on Monday by AP.
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Old 5 January 2019, 01:24 AM   #124
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Weird post. You can for sure compare both. I would even argue the. the finishing of the royal oak is better than that of the 5711. Again, you can most definitely compare both watches.
To the naked eye and even under slight magnification my AP 3120 looks as good if not slightly better than my Patek 324sc movement.
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Old 5 January 2019, 02:09 AM   #125
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To the naked eye and even under slight magnification my AP 3120 looks as good if not slightly better than my Patek 324sc movement.
Very similar, they are workhorse movements really, the AP rotor engraving is nicer though.
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Old 5 January 2019, 02:31 AM   #126
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I can't believe they would discontinue the 15400 in favor of the new CODE line (however it will be called). That would be nonsensical .... Interesting times ...
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Old 5 January 2019, 03:36 AM   #127
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I can't believe they would discontinue the 15400 in favor of the new CODE line (however it will be called). That would be nonsensical .... Interesting times ...
They aren't going to discontinue the royal oak, would imagine it's just getting updated. I think 40mm would be better than the current 41
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Old 5 January 2019, 03:39 AM   #128
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They aren't going to discontinue the royal oak, would imagine it's just getting updated. I think 40mm would be better than the current 41
I would imagine the same but who knows. Perfect as-is if you ask me.
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Old 5 January 2019, 04:11 AM   #129
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Very similar, they are workhorse movements really, the AP rotor engraving is nicer though.




Not too shabby !
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Old 5 January 2019, 04:38 AM   #130
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Very nice picture. I love watching my diver movement for minutes....espacially with a loupe......so much to discover
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Old 5 January 2019, 05:44 PM   #131
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Very similar, they are workhorse movements really, the AP rotor engraving is nicer though.
Agree and think that’s what puts the AP finishing ahead for me. Also the hacking when setting the time/date helps too from a functionality standpoint.
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Old 5 January 2019, 11:12 PM   #132
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Not too shabby !
Not at all, altho ironically I get the RG 44 and they put some galavanised thing on my rotor to make it look like grey plastic. Had a closed back ROC and a Diver so never had the lovely coat of arms gold rotor myself.
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Old 6 January 2019, 12:12 AM   #133
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Not at all, altho ironically I get the RG 44 and they put some galavanised thing on my rotor to make it look like grey plastic. Had a closed back ROC and a Diver so never had the lovely coat of arms gold rotor myself.
It's always stuck me as strange how they use the non engraved rotors on the higher end sporty pieces. maybe they figure enough gold on the front already
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Old 6 January 2019, 05:01 PM   #134
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I understood the rotor on the 3120 was stamped not engraved eh?
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Old 6 January 2019, 06:35 PM   #135
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I was at boutique yesterday and it seems like there would be certain changes to be made on 15400, but they wouldn’t give me more details.
That’s true and the 15400 will get a new name 15500.
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Old 6 January 2019, 09:40 PM   #136
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That’s true and the 15400 will get a new name 15500.
what cosmetic changes will it have?
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Old 6 January 2019, 09:46 PM   #137
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If the 15500 is somehow similar or improve upon 15400, I wonder if this will actually push resale price of 15400 down? Kind of like the new RG44 came out and push down price of old RG44.

Or if the 15500 is hard to get, then it might turn around and help 15400. Kind of like what happens to the openworks.
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Old 7 January 2019, 12:15 AM   #138
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I understood the rotor on the 3120 was stamped not engraved eh?


Given the number they make and consistency it may well be actually, if you consider the detail gold coins can be furnished with, it’s likely.





I think AP refer to it simply as ‘decorated’ leaving the door open to the romantic notion it’s hand engraved.

End result is tremendously easy on the eye regardless though.
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Old 7 January 2019, 04:54 AM   #139
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Pretty sure it’s stamped. They would be selling the shit out of it if that was all hand engraved and they wouldn’t be putting it on every entry level 3120 they make.
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Old 7 January 2019, 05:09 AM   #140
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Pretty sure it’s stamped. They would be selling the shit out of it if that was all hand engraved and they wouldn’t be putting it on every entry level 3120 they make.


Yes - I think they really would. Look at Lange and just the tiny bit of hand engraving on the balance cock and how heavily that’s talked about.
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Old 7 January 2019, 04:22 PM   #141
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Got this info from a very reliable source, the 15400 is probably going to be discontinued in the near future.
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Old 7 January 2019, 05:00 PM   #142
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Got this info from a very reliable source, the 15400 is probably going to be discontinued in the near future.


I also hear from a very reputable source that all things come to an end at some point, be in near or distant future.

The definition of “all things” definitely includes death, taxes and the end to 15400 production... and Batman’s too.

As to what exactly near or long term future mean, it’s up to everyone’s own interpretation.

But it is from a solid, reliable source that has never been wrong before. Or so I am told.

Amen.
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Got this info from a very reliable source, the 15400 is probably going to be discontinued in the near future.


I’ll say it’s already discontinued - from what I’ve heard. Just need to be announced.


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Old 8 January 2019, 06:01 AM   #144
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There have been a lot of credible sources saying that the 15400 is going to be discontinued, so I believe it. It also looks like a new time and date caliber is going into the new model (CODE or whatever they're calling it), so my guess is the main change for the 15500 will be this new movement. However, the new caliber has the date at 4:30, which I despise and quite a few others aren't fans of, either. I was initially going to sell my 15400, but am holding onto it in light of this development, as I think that I, as well as a lot of buyers, will prefer the 15400 to the 15500.
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Old 8 January 2019, 06:27 AM   #145
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well i don't see that happening. And this in not about me being sentimental
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Old 8 January 2019, 07:57 AM   #146
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Old 8 January 2019, 02:29 PM   #147
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Agree and think that’s what puts the AP finishing ahead for me. Also the hacking when setting the time/date helps too from a functionality standpoint.
As a 15400 owner, I can tell you the 5711 has a higher standard of finishing. More hand work vs. machine finishing. In fact, a better comparison would be the 2121 movement found in the 15202. Both are sensational, but Patek edges the AP in this case.
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Old 8 January 2019, 03:22 PM   #148
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As a 15400 owner, I can tell you the 5711 has a higher standard of finishing. More hand work vs. machine finishing. In fact, a better comparison would be the 2121 movement found in the 15202. Both are sensational, but Patek edges the AP in this case.
From the naked eye or slight magnification I’m still not so sure. I have seen AP hand and machine finishing of the 3120 and many others first hand. Patek I just have to go with the end result. My photography skills are not the best but I can try to get side by sides of the 3120, 3126 and 3129 vs the 324sc.
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Old 8 January 2019, 08:17 PM   #149
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However, the new caliber has the date at 4:30, which I despise and quite a few others aren't fans of, either.
Presumably the new caliber has a conventional date wheel, so they can easily place the date window at 3pm on other models if they wanted to?
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From the naked eye or slight magnification I’m still not so sure. I have seen AP hand and machine finishing of the 3120 and many others first hand. Patek I just have to go with the end result. My photography skills are not the best but I can try to get side by sides of the 3120, 3126 and 3129 vs the 324sc.


Some comparison shots would be excellent!

I think it warrants its own thread even
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