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15 July 2019, 07:14 PM | #91 | |
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Then again the bracelet
makes the SLA017 top-heavy, at least for my wrist. The lint-magnet of a strap has been great though!
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That second hand is an absolute disgrace...
If this is what Seiko thinks enthusiasts who pay $4,000+ for a "limited edition" expect they are sorely mistaken. Seiko should give itself a seriously flagellation
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Got a call from my AD today, they're getting a SLA033 in a few days and I'm the 1st one in line, I'm not sure if I will buy it, have much more watches than I can wear.
Btw, that 2nd hand is unacceptable for a $4200 watch. Back then a new 50th Anv Rolex Sub cost me $5200, now $4200 gets me a Seiko diver with rubber strap, Seiko is moving up the market fast with not much to show for. |
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This poor QCis a serious issue for Seiko..
It’s especially troublesome considering the herculean effort they put into finishing on Grand Seiko, but here they have a watch that costs more than some of those references and the finish is very subpar.. Why |
16 July 2019, 07:35 PM | #96 |
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I've got to agree that the close up of the 2nd hand quality looks very disappointing, & no metal bracelet for the SLA033 has put me off slightly on buying this model .The SLA017 ( I own one )has also had some quality issues also regarding the bezel rotation slipping & not clicking on increments ( luckily hasn't affected mine ). You would really expect a better package overall for the money . It seems like Seiko have given a lot of thought to 95% of the quality & finish of some of the SLAs but gave up on the last 5% . And as we know, the devil is is the detail ,as this is unlikely a watch that will be bought as an impulse buy .
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I picked up my SLA033 yesterday from my AD and really like it. The wear is good and I have seen no issues with QC on the watch I have. I think if you are buying a $4200 Seiko you are really on a different level for watches by the brand. So many great watches in the sub $1000 range and you can do well sub $500. Yes it is a lot of money but if it is what you want then it is not. I have learned my lesion on waiting on LE watches and it is when available, and you want it, get it. Sort it out later. Better to have and not want than want and not have. I will be posting a lot of picture of my SLA033 as I really like it.
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Fantastic! It looks great on your wrist!
I agree with you that this is different. As long as people understand that this is not the same as the 6105 (probably the SRP777 is the modern tool watch equivalent and pricing), they can appreciate this watch as it is. Quote:
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Sigh... well, we'll have to listen to Seiko's Customer Service Center and accept the fact that if it looks good from a distance of 20cm... ...and it does look damn good from that distance... really good. All of them do...
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There is meticulous quality and a ridiculous level of detail for almost all of the item. ALMOST. Then they cheap out on one part that makes you go...WTF? Then the efficiency engineering comes in to play...well it works doesn't it? Why go to all that trouble and then NOT go all the way? |
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Why would you expect them to be different in finish? They are from the same line of Seiko high end divers. They are not GS models. Heck they even share the same bezel design.
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Because they used polished hands for both the SLA017 & SLA025... that's why.
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disregard, waste of time.
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Seiko has created limited edition models of their earliest divers, added modern functionality (sapphire crystals, up-to-date movements, as used in their current high-end divers, etc). While they chose not to take that last step by adding applied logos etc - as a finishing touch they did provide nicely-polished hands (to almost GS specs). All with the exception of the SLA033's seconds hand which, imo as an owner is a real shame. Let's be clear, the SLA033 is marketed as a collector's reference (as well as a high-end diver), so asking for a polished seconds-hand (as well as applied logos...) is really not asking too much, me thinks...
A reminder to all that Seiko's 8L35-equipped high-end divers retail today around 3K (for example, the SLA021 - $3100) and the SLA033 retails quite a bit higher at $4250. This... vs. this and this p.s. and for ref. here's the high-end diver's
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If Seiko wanted to make this right they would offer a free service update/product recall to the SLA033 to replace the hands with appropriately crafted hands.
I'll have to check the hands on mine, and if they are as bad as you present I'm minded to do something about it.
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Hi,
With the question below, I really don't mean to minimize any of the concerns or to make fun. I understand that this is an expensive collector's piece and, at any rate, any unsatisfied owner is one too many. I just have an honest question: to the naked eye, are the problems visible? |
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I’m ok with the second hand on the sla033. It’s $4k. Not 14k. Also look up the finish work on a $37,000 Rolex white gold gmt that floats around trf and Hh. It’s crap. Obviously it’s a choice by Seiko since they demonstrate some of the best finishing with GS. I think as long as it’s sub 5k that second hand is ok. But it is weird that the 017 and 025 have superior seconds hands. So I definitely see each point here.
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Let's pretend I was reviewing the watch for a magazine that rates watches from 1-10. I'd deduct an entire point for the lack of an applied logo, half a point for skimming on the seconds-hand (material) and another half point for somewhat overpricing the watch. Those are my opinions based on my own experience, limited as it may be. Thus, the SLA033 gets an 8/10. I guess if we had an 8 laying in our beds we wouldn't be so quick to throw them out... Lastly, you can't really see it so I doubt you (and 99% of the owners) will really care about that. Your unit will thus earn a 8 1/2... Exactly. It's been done before, by Seiko, for the same price-class so what happened here. In terms of "4K vs. 14K", I guess one could play this argument ad nauseum. You bought the SLA033 with your 4K and you are happy. Perfect.
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Did you purchase an SLA033? Or an SLA025 or SLA017 or any Seiko that costs upwards of 3K ...? If the answer is yes, then fine, we have different opinions and life goes on If not then I would suggest you should refrain from telling people what to expect for their own money Quote:
Here's an idea - why don't you follow your own advice; "disregard - just a waste of time"
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This has no bearings on my comments "Did you purchase an SLA033? Or an SLA025 or SLA017 or any Seiko that costs upwards of 3K ...?". But if you want it to then i can answer it for you. |
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Interesting conversation about expectations of the SLA033 and a 4k watch in general. I got my SLA033 on Monday and it has gotten a lot of wrist time since then. I get the concern and it is valid. For me, I will never look at the watch with a loop, so to my older eyes it looks great. The 4k the watch cost is well worth it in my world where I can run down and spend it on a watch I do not need, but want.
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Despite my minor quibbles (because at no time have I suggested they were show-stoppers or scandalous in nature ) I also love the watch and I have no (real) issue with the pricing. Overall, it's another job-well-done and a great addition to my humble collection
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