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BNA/LION · 23 January 2020, 06:31 AM

Here we go! I'm considering adding a Performance Tune to my car. I really like the power and control I have now but wonder if more is better?
What Say You?

Stage 1 (DINANTRONICS Performance Tuner ONLY) Maximum Power on Competition Package equipped F06/12/13 M6's:
695 HP, 644 lb-ft of torque. Cost: $2,199.95

Stage 2 (DINANTRONICS Performance Tuner in conjunction with Dinan Intake and Exhaust) Maximum Power on Competition Package equipped F12/13 M6's:
708 HP, 651 lb-ft of torque. Cost: $2,299.95

Products - Dinan, Leader in BMW Performance Parts and Upgrades
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Pantheon · 23 January 2020, 06:34 AM

Love power so my vote goes to you can always have more of it!

sp3ak · 23 January 2020, 06:36 AM

I mean sure more is better, it's more :)

I guess the things to ask are, what's the cost? Is that cost worth it to you? Will it void a warranty you have? Will it help or hurt resale value? How long are you keeping it? How many watches could you buy instead :)

Tune only is fairly easily reversible though so, that kind of nixes some of it, but those are the sorts of questions I would ask myself.

1st amg · 23 January 2020, 06:38 AM

I am all for it Larry......but....there is always a risk of nuking a motor. In my younger days I was always searching to adding hp to cars and always had some reliability issues. In your case, I think you have a new motor and I am not sure what the warranty and dealer would say. If they are ok and would cover any problems, then I say go for it

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swils8610 · 23 January 2020, 06:44 AM

Just be careful with possible warranty issues. The BMW dealer can pull info from CPU that tells exactly how the car was driven. If it’s not within “normal’ driving conditions they can void the warranty.

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BNA/LION · 23 January 2020, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sp3ak

I mean sure more is better, it's more :)

I guess the things to ask are, what's the cost? Is that cost worth it to you? Will it void a warranty you have? Will it help or hurt resale value? How long are you keeping it? How many watches could you buy instead :)

Tune only is fairly easily reversible though so, that kind of nixes some of it, but those are the sorts of questions I would ask myself.

Good Points! I added the cost to the thread. Cost is really not important but the other points you bring up need consideration.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1st amg

I am all for it Larry......but....there is always a risk of nuking a motor. In my younger days I was always searching to adding hp to cars and always had some reliability issues. In your case, I think you have a new motor and I am not sure what the warranty and dealer would say. If they are ok and would cover any problems, then I say go for it

YES, new motor but No Warranty per BMW on the replacement. This is why I am considering it now. They do not cover add-ons like this.

BNA/LION · 23 January 2020, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swils8610

Just be careful with possible warranty issues. The BMW dealer can pull info from CPU that tells exactly how the car was driven. If it’s not within “normal’ driving conditions they can void the warranty.

Ha!

Now you tell me... I Drive the $hit out of my car!

RHIII · 23 January 2020, 06:47 AM

Dinan makes AMAZING performance parts for BMW my friend.

I have on my Stage 1 on my M4 - and you won’t regret. If I wasn’t waiting to get the new G80 M3 I’d have done Stage 2.

(I didn’t badge it though.

)

It says a lot about a company - especially aftermarket - when - regardless of any performance upgrades BMW will still warranty a vehicle.

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RHIII · 23 January 2020, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swils8610

Just be careful with possible warranty issues. The BMW dealer can pull info from CPU that tells exactly how the car was driven. If it’s not within “normal’ driving conditions they can void the warranty.

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BMW will warranty cars under Dinan performance parts. It’s not an issue.

and if for some reason BMW denied a warranty claim - Dinan parts come with a warranty.

2 years initially but can be extended.

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antbkny · 23 January 2020, 06:50 AM

A tune and exhaust would help pep it up, I’d go stage 2 at least. If anything, you’ll get a kick out of the new exhaust note.

Edit: btw, only $100 difference for an intake and exhaust? The exhaust alone is probably a couple grand.

envuks · 23 January 2020, 06:57 AM

I voted to tune the car to stage 1. The Hp gains compared to stage 2 are minimal and stage 2 requires the exhaust and intake which I’d expect adds close to another $5k in cost on an M6.

Dinnan is a good reputable tuning company. Their software tunes are conservative compared to much of the industry (which I think is a positive).

I’ve tuned all 3 cars that I’ve owned over the past 15 years. The first 2 I put 120k+ miles on each, tuned.

Audi A4 1.8t - giac tuned, plus a bunch of hardware (upgraded intercooler, turbo, +)
Bmw 335 xi - ESS tuned, plus some other hardware (upgraded intercooler, catless downpipes, +)
Audi s5 (current car) - APR tune. Just the tune, but the car is newer and I’m planning to upgrade cooling as well.

One thing to consider is that there is gray area with BMW warranty and dinnin products. I’ve seen some instances where warranty is fine and others where warranty claims are denied. ESS is another company that’s a good dinnan alternative

envuks · 23 January 2020, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antbkny

Edit: btw, only $100 difference for an intake and exhaust? The exhaust alone is probably a couple grand.

These prices are certainly just the software. The bolt ons for stage 2 (exhaust and intake) are in addition to the extra $100

037 · 23 January 2020, 07:01 AM

Have you participated in any driving schools or events? I'd spend $2.2k on that instead. Driving will follow you regardless of the car you own. Another 0.1 seconds off of your 0-60 times won't matter.

Chewbacca · 23 January 2020, 07:21 AM

Possible troll thread...?

Of course!

Demand all the stages, downpipes, waste gates, flashes, exhaust and nanny overrides available! Be a LION!

brandrea · 23 January 2020, 07:27 AM

I can’t imagine that 600 hp isn’t already enough

MSchu · 23 January 2020, 07:31 AM

I got a hundred bucks that says you can't even get the most out of the HP you have now...

Tyler681 · 23 January 2020, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BNA/LION

Here we go! I'm considering adding a Performance Tune to my car. I really like the power and control I have now but wonder if more is better?
What Say You?

Stage 1 (DINANTRONICS Performance Tuner ONLY) Maximum Power on Competition Package equipped F06/12/13 M6's:
695 HP, 644 lb-ft of torque. Cost: $2,199.95

Stage 2 (DINANTRONICS Performance Tuner in conjunction with Dinan Intake and Exhaust) Maximum Power on Competition Package equipped F12/13 M6's:
708 HP, 651 lb-ft of torque. Cost: $2,299.95

Products - Dinan, Leader in BMW Performance Parts and Upgrades
https://www.dinancars.com/products/?...bodytype=Coupe

Some weeks ago I posted a picture of my breitling asking for advise and was told that this is a site for discussing Rolex.
My question is. Is it one rule for new members and another for long standing?

Sperry · 23 January 2020, 07:38 AM

I'm more into stock mechanical but improving steering, suspension, tires, and brakes. Especially brakes.

Maybe it is time for a new car?

antbkny · 23 January 2020, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyler681

Some weeks ago I posted a picture of my breitling asking for advise and was told that this is a site for discussing Rolex.
My question is. Is it one rule for new members and another for long standing?

there are different sections of the web forum to discuss things. We’re now in the open discussion section. There is also a section specifically for Breitling here https://www.rolexforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=33

And here, you can see all the discussion sections.
https://www.rolexforums.com/

Jabbo84 · 23 January 2020, 07:48 AM

...there’s better tunes than Dinan.

enjoythemusic · 23 January 2020, 08:07 AM

Have 2014 435i with Dinan Stage 4... plus many bolt-ons. Imho for your car go Stage 2 and Fabspeed catted DP. The DP will bring you more than the intake and exhaust, while NOT making your car 'too loud', it wont have that nasty cattless gas smell, plus no worries about CEL. JMhO

And yes, you can go Stage 2 and NOT get their $$$ intake and exhaust. Seems you left out the intake and exhaust that adds another $4.5k on top of the $2k for Stage 2 box. BTW, you should get a 15% discount on Dinan bits, or are they installing for free as the box is relatively easy to install.

Chewbacca · 23 January 2020, 08:17 AM

Is it booked, Larry?

89Sem · 23 January 2020, 08:51 AM

Yes of course more power!

Beat it and enjoy it! I just got a tuner for my Grand Cherokee, not the performance gains you are talking of but definitely more enjoyable to drive.

Dr. Robert · 23 January 2020, 09:15 AM

More power!

_speedmaster_ · 23 January 2020, 09:31 AM

Use the money for better tires, brakes and/or suspension upgrades (assuming those are still stock).

Unsure about San Diego roads, but in lower CT there are no roads that would allow you to take advantage of 700hp. Even some tracks wouldn't allow you to fully take advantage of that much power.

Fat_ninja · 23 January 2020, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RHIII

BMW will warranty cars under Dinan performance parts. It’s not an issue.

and if for some reason BMW denied a warranty claim - Dinan parts come with a warranty.

2 years initially but can be extended.

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U sure on that? I thought that changed. The BMW warranttee part

Danny83 · 23 January 2020, 10:10 AM

Yes !! Stage 2

singe89 · 23 January 2020, 10:12 AM

BIG fan of quality tuners but make sure if you pay for the HP you pay for the hard parts to back it up. Haven't tuned a BMW but have blown transmissions, lifted cylinder heads/blown head gaskets, etc. Boosted engines can produce TONS of HP with proper tuning but know its not just the engine that is taking all that additional stress.

droptopman · 23 January 2020, 10:15 AM

More HP is always fun but not always faster. How is the traction with current set up? If you cannot put that power to the ground effectively you may actually have slower 0-60 and quarter mile times. Wheel spin is a *****.

Headshrinker · 23 January 2020, 10:45 AM

I have a Porsche Turbo S and increased the horsepower by about 150 HP; no regrets, I just don’t drive in the winter.

View Poll Results: What Should I Do? No Dinan -or- Dinan?
Nope: 600hp, 516 lb-ft of torque and 0-62 mph in 3.9 seconds is Good.	41	41.41%
YES: Go Stage 1	10	10.10%
Yes: Go Stage 2	48	48.48%
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23 January 2020, 06:31 AM	#1
BNA/LION 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Larry Location: San Diego, CA Watch: ROLEX Posts: 25,193	Should I Boost the hp of my BMW M6? Here we go! I'm considering adding a Performance Tune to my car. I really like the power and control I have now but wonder if more is better? What Say You? Stage 1 (DINANTRONICS Performance Tuner ONLY) Maximum Power on Competition Package equipped F06/12/13 M6's: 695 HP, 644 lb-ft of torque. Cost: $2,199.95 Stage 2 (DINANTRONICS Performance Tuner in conjunction with Dinan Intake and Exhaust) Maximum Power on Competition Package equipped F12/13 M6's: 708 HP, 651 lb-ft of torque. Cost: $2,299.95 Products - Dinan, Leader in BMW Performance Parts and Upgrades https://www.dinancars.com/products/?...bodytype=Coupe __________________ ✦ 28238 President DD 18K/YG ✦ 16610LN SS Sub ✦ 16613 18K/SS Serti ✦ 16550 Exp II Non-Rail Cream Dial ✦ Daytona C 116500 ✦ 126710 BLRO GMT-Master II ✦ NEXT-->? ⛳ Hole In One! 10/3/19 DMCC 5th hole, par 3, 168 yards w/ 4-Iron.

23 January 2020, 06:57 AM	#11
envuks 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New England Posts: 3,685	I voted to tune the car to stage 1. The Hp gains compared to stage 2 are minimal and stage 2 requires the exhaust and intake which I’d expect adds close to another $5k in cost on an M6. Dinnan is a good reputable tuning company. Their software tunes are conservative compared to much of the industry (which I think is a positive). I’ve tuned all 3 cars that I’ve owned over the past 15 years. The first 2 I put 120k+ miles on each, tuned. Audi A4 1.8t - giac tuned, plus a bunch of hardware (upgraded intercooler, turbo, +) Bmw 335 xi - ESS tuned, plus some other hardware (upgraded intercooler, catless downpipes, +) Audi s5 (current car) - APR tune. Just the tune, but the car is newer and I’m planning to upgrade cooling as well. One thing to consider is that there is gray area with BMW warranty and dinnin products. I’ve seen some instances where warranty is fine and others where warranty claims are denied. ESS is another company that’s a good dinnan alternative __________________ Current watches: 116718ln, 116500 black dial, 40mm Breitling Chronomat MOP dial “A man with one watch always knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.”

23 January 2020, 08:07 AM	#21
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 19,406	Have 2014 435i with Dinan Stage 4... plus many bolt-ons. Imho for your car go Stage 2 and Fabspeed catted DP. The DP will bring you more than the intake and exhaust, while NOT making your car 'too loud', it wont have that nasty cattless gas smell, plus no worries about CEL. JMhO And yes, you can go Stage 2 and NOT get their $$$ intake and exhaust. Seems you left out the intake and exhaust that adds another $4.5k on top of the $2k for Stage 2 box. BTW, you should get a 15% discount on Dinan bits, or are they installing for free as the box is relatively easy to install. __________________ __________________ “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming 'Wow! What a Ride!'” -- Hunter S. Thompson Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

23 January 2020, 09:15 AM	#24
Dr. Robert 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 61,234	More power! __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

23 January 2020, 06:34 AM	#2
Pantheon Banned Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: Ritchie Location: NYC & LI Watch: VC and AP Posts: 580	Love power so my vote goes to you can always have more of it!

23 January 2020, 06:36 AM	#3
sp3ak "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: NC Watch: DJ36, SMP300 Posts: 44	I mean sure more is better, it's more :) I guess the things to ask are, what's the cost? Is that cost worth it to you? Will it void a warranty you have? Will it help or hurt resale value? How long are you keeping it? How many watches could you buy instead :) Tune only is fairly easily reversible though so, that kind of nixes some of it, but those are the sorts of questions I would ask myself.

23 January 2020, 06:38 AM	#4
1st amg 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: nicholas Location: ottawa canada Watch: Rolex,AP,Panerai Posts: 9,461	I am all for it Larry......but....there is always a risk of nuking a motor. In my younger days I was always searching to adding hp to cars and always had some reliability issues. In your case, I think you have a new motor and I am not sure what the warranty and dealer would say. If they are ok and would cover any problems, then I say go for it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

23 January 2020, 06:44 AM	#5
swils8610 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: shannon Location: usa Posts: 8,991	Just be careful with possible warranty issues. The BMW dealer can pull info from CPU that tells exactly how the car was driven. If it’s not within “normal’ driving conditions they can void the warranty. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

23 January 2020, 06:47 AM	#8
RHIII Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Roger Location: ... Watch: AP/Rolex/PP Posts: 6,309	Dinan makes AMAZING performance parts for BMW my friend. I have on my Stage 1 on my M4 - and you won’t regret. If I wasn’t waiting to get the new G80 M3 I’d have done Stage 2. (I didn’t badge it though. ) It says a lot about a company - especially aftermarket - when - regardless of any performance upgrades BMW will still warranty a vehicle. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

23 January 2020, 06:50 AM	#10
antbkny "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Anthony Location: Brooklyn, NY Watch: Dblue Posts: 6,723	A tune and exhaust would help pep it up, I’d go stage 2 at least. If anything, you’ll get a kick out of the new exhaust note. Edit: btw, only $100 difference for an intake and exhaust? The exhaust alone is probably a couple grand.

23 January 2020, 07:01 AM	#13
037 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: USA Posts: 6,171	Have you participated in any driving schools or events? I'd spend $2.2k on that instead. Driving will follow you regardless of the car you own. Another 0.1 seconds off of your 0-60 times won't matter.

23 January 2020, 07:21 AM	#14
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,113	Possible troll thread...? Of course! Demand all the stages, downpipes, waste gates, flashes, exhaust and nanny overrides available! Be a LION!

23 January 2020, 07:27 AM	#15
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 73,587	I can’t imagine that 600 hp isn’t already enough

23 January 2020, 07:31 AM	#16
MSchu Banned Join Date: May 2019 Real Name: Schumacher Location: Las vegas Posts: 826	I got a hundred bucks that says you can't even get the most out of the HP you have now...

23 January 2020, 07:38 AM	#18
Sperry "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Jim Location: Alpha Posts: 3,383	I'm more into stock mechanical but improving steering, suspension, tires, and brakes. Especially brakes. Maybe it is time for a new car?

23 January 2020, 07:48 AM	#20
Jabbo84 Banned Join Date: May 2019 Real Name: John Location: Tyler,Texas Watch: Rolex/Piaget Posts: 966	...there’s better tunes than Dinan.

23 January 2020, 08:17 AM	#22
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,113	Is it booked, Larry?

23 January 2020, 08:51 AM	#23
89Sem "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Philadelphia,PA Watch: Rolex, Omega Posts: 256	Yes of course more power! Beat it and enjoy it! I just got a tuner for my Grand Cherokee, not the performance gains you are talking of but definitely more enjoyable to drive.

23 January 2020, 09:31 AM	#25
_speedmaster_ "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Earth Posts: 2,443	Use the money for better tires, brakes and/or suspension upgrades (assuming those are still stock). Unsure about San Diego roads, but in lower CT there are no roads that would allow you to take advantage of 700hp. Even some tracks wouldn't allow you to fully take advantage of that much power. __________________ Blancpain \| Chopard LUC \| Grand Seiko/King Seiko \| Grönefeld \| Laurent Ferrier \| Moritz Grossmann \| Omega \| Trilobe \| Urban Jürgensen instagram.com/ct_watch_guy

23 January 2020, 10:10 AM	#27
Danny83 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Danny Location: Bay Area CA Watch: Yellow Gold Posts: 20,162	Yes !! Stage 2

23 January 2020, 10:12 AM	#28
singe89 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Jim Location: Orange County, CA Watch: Rolex, AP & Patek Posts: 3,722	BIG fan of quality tuners but make sure if you pay for the HP you pay for the hard parts to back it up. Haven't tuned a BMW but have blown transmissions, lifted cylinder heads/blown head gaskets, etc. Boosted engines can produce TONS of HP with proper tuning but know its not just the engine that is taking all that additional stress.

23 January 2020, 10:15 AM	#29
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	More HP is always fun but not always faster. How is the traction with current set up? If you cannot put that power to the ground effectively you may actually have slower 0-60 and quarter mile times. Wheel spin is a *****. __________________ Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today? Ty: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score. Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers? Ty: By height.

23 January 2020, 10:45 AM	#30
Headshrinker "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NJ Watch: Day-Date Posts: 4,056	I have a Porsche Turbo S and increased the horsepower by about 150 HP; no regrets, I just don’t drive in the winter.

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