Blro bezel problem

[Macnavara]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Bezel of BLRO and BLNR is definitely different. The red/blue cerachrom is indeed more fragile and cannot be press fit directly into metal like the others, it requires a slightly different bezel with a small hytrel gasket/washer.

Wow thats awesome info.....very definite tech difference then.....do you think Rolex will be more lenient with broken bezel warrenty claims in light of this

[pepsiretail]

Originally Posted by BLNR Nairobi

Thank you. I had missed that (and also referred to the jubilee bracelet as a jubilee bezel). Mea culpa.

Actually, it appears I am wrong, from other reports both the 12 and 11 BLNR are sharper than the 12 BLRO.

[pepsiretail]

Originally Posted by Macnavara

Wow thats awesome info.....very definite tech difference then.....do you think Rolex will be more lenient with broken bezel warrenty claims in light of this

Bezel claim could get interesting, I will only accept MK I bezel for mine. Once again, glad you raised the question.

[Stoge]

Very interested and well spotted OP. I have the new BLNR on jubilee and can confirm it has very sharp edges.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Bezel of BLRO and BLNR is definitely different. The red/blue cerachrom is indeed more fragile and cannot be press fit directly into metal like the others, it requires a slightly different bezel with a small hytrel gasket/washer.

Always appreciate your insights Bas

[shivayash]

What is a mark 1 bezel?


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[SearChart]

Originally Posted by shivayash

What is a mark 1 bezel?


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Different colour, first batch that came out was more of a purple/pink rather than blue/red.

All replacement bezels I've seen are MK2, so if one breaks the MK1 and really wants that as replacement you're out of luck.

[pepsiretail]

Originally Posted by shivayash

What is a mark 1 bezel?


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It is the first insert used, only for the first few months, on the 12 Pepsi, which makes it an extremely rare version of the ceramic reissue of this classic reference.

[pepsiretail]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Different colour, first batch that came out was more of a purple/pink rather than blue/red.

All replacement bezels I've seen are MK2, so if one breaks the MK1 and really wants that as replacement you're out of luck.

And people were mocking me for wondering if I should keep riding around on my bike with it. Two feet only for mine now.

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by pepsiretail

And people were mocking me for wondering if I should keep riding around on my bike with it. Two feet only for mine now.

Yeah you don't want to break it. But if you're careful it is unlikely to happen.

Market is what market is, MK1 was produced for a short time so will indeed be more valuable, especially in the long run.

[Macnavara]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Different colour, first batch that came out was more of a purple/pink rather than blue/red.

All replacement bezels I've seen are MK2, so if one breaks the MK1 and really wants that as replacement you're out of luck.

Thanks for your insight Bas....any idea how much it cost to replace the insert

[Macnavara]

Originally Posted by pepsiretail

Bezel claim could get interesting, I will only accept MK I bezel for mine. Once again, glad you raised the question.

Interesting dilemma potentially

[DAD]

Love that Purple / Cranberry bezel

[Monty22]

Anyone have a comparison with the CHNR?


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[maxymax]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Bezel of BLRO and BLNR is definitely different. The red/blue cerachrom is indeed more fragile and cannot be press fit directly into metal like the others, it requires a slightly different bezel with a small hytrel gasket/washer.

This - Great info

+1 My 116710BLNR bezel is sharp & crisp btw

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by Macnavara

Thanks for your insight Bas....any idea how much it cost to replace the insert

470CHF, not including cost of placement (if outside of service) and taxes. For the insert only, on exchange base with HQ.

[BLNR Nairobi]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Bezel of BLRO and BLNR is definitely different. The red/blue cerachrom is indeed more fragile and cannot be press fit directly into metal like the others, it requires a slightly different bezel with a small hytrel gasket/washer.

Hi Bas - any idea why the red/blue cerachrom would be more fragile than the black/blue cerachrom? Is it due to differences in the type of ceramic oxide used (I know one - not sure if it’s BLNR or BLRO uses ZrO2 and the other Al2O3), or is it due to different pressures and/or temperatures used?

I guess it would be based on whether it’s zirconium dioxide or aluminum oxide used for the ceramic, but it would be great to get your insights. Also, exactly how big is the difference in durability for Rolex to have to redesign the bezel?

Thank you.

And finally a thread that is not the usual ‘scarcity/price’ related discussions on TRF.

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by BLNR Nairobi

Hi Bas - any idea why the red/blue cerachrom would be more fragile than the black/blue cerachrom? Is it due to differences in the type of ceramic oxide used (I know one - not sure if it’s BLNR or BLRO uses ZrO2 and the other Al2O3), or is it due to different pressures and/or temperatures used?

I guess it would be based on whether it’s zirconium dioxide or aluminum oxide used for the ceramic, but it would be great to get your insights. Also, exactly how big is the difference in durability for Rolex to have to redesign the bezel?

Thank you.

And finally a thread that is not the usual ‘scarcity/price’ related discussions on TRF.

Any type of stress on the bezel can break the insert, hence why went for a new type with a protective washer. The red colour is apparently significantly more brittle than the other colours. Which is why it took so long for them to release a red ceramic insert.

[BLNR Nairobi]

Thanks Bas. Very interesting thread.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by SS Oyster

Strengthen up those fingers!

Sharpest bezel teeth bar none us the SD43 - snags everything


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X2. SD43 is like a saw blade.

[Macnavara]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Any type of stress on the bezel can break the insert, hence why went for a new type with a protective washer. The red colour is apparently significantly more brittle than the other colours. Which is why it took so long for them to release a red ceramic insert.

Thanks again for the fascinating info

[Macnavara]

Originally Posted by Mystro

X2. SD43 is like a saw blade.

You’re not kidding....i remember thinking mine was insanely sharp when i got it

[j-watch]

Best thread in a long time (information wise)! Thanks OP for raising the question and thanks Bas for all the tech info behind the scenes!

Kind of refreshing, really.

[Macnavara]

Originally Posted by j-watch

Best thread in a long time (information wise)! Thanks OP for raising the question and thanks Bas for all the tech info behind the scenes!

Kind of refreshing, really.

Thanks Joe...really glad people found the thread interesting

[Macnavara]

Originally Posted by pepsiretail

And people were mocking me for wondering if I should keep riding around on my bike with it. Two feet only for mine now.

[rambo99]

Originally Posted by SS Oyster

Strengthen up those fingers!

Sharpest bezel teeth bar none us the SD43 - snags everything


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sure it's a 007 survival kit in case of emergency, glad I have one too. Haha.

[rambo99]

I've noticed the bezel teeth on the submariner are sharper than the gmt. but didn't know Rolex deploy different bezel on gmt variants.

[Macnavara]

Originally Posted by rambo99

sure it's a 007 survival kit in case of emergency, glad I have one too. Haha.

Haha

[iheartrolexx]

sharp as knife

[Macnavara]

Originally Posted by pepsiretail

It is the first insert used, only for the first few months, on the 12 Pepsi, which makes it an extremely rare version of the ceramic reissue of this classic reference.

New observation

Seems that the 2018 insert is thiner as my mk2 isnt as deeply recessed in the bezel ring and the crystal is a little flusher