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007Sub · 3 July 2013, 04:05 PM

So I'm starting to fall in love with the pepsi vintage GMT. Before I decide to buy anything I go through hours of consideration and deliberation (I actually find this nearly as exciting as buying the watch itself). My question to you is what would you choose and why?

1675: big pro for me are the more radial bevels of the earlier ones. I just love beveled edges.

16750: big pro. Quick set date and better (?) movement.

Thoughts anyone? Also which bracelet is most appropriate for these in your opinion? The rivet? Or folded?

skprd13 · 3 July 2013, 04:10 PM

Both incredible watches! Pepsi um good! Choose wishing grasshopper! You cannot go wrong!

joe100 · 3 July 2013, 07:27 PM

The movements are both great. No worries there. A 1675 will be easier to find

lhanddds · 3 July 2013, 11:15 PM

Both are great. I currently have my 1675 on an oval link, very comfortable. I also have a rivet and an oyster but don't forget Natos and Zulus. My favorite watch.

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swish77 · 3 July 2013, 11:40 PM

Both great, classic timepieces. I'd just try to find the best example of either model that's in your budget. (The quickset feature is under-rated, IMHO, if you have a steady rotation of watches. I hate swinging those hands around for five minutes to advance to the correct date!) I think the 16750 only came on a more modern Oyster or Jubilee. Happy hunting!

Robi74 · 4 July 2013, 03:01 AM

1675 if i may say! Love that watch from the very first time i saw it!!!
So way the 1675, i realy dont know, for me there was onely the 1675!

This one is a 1977/78

I also switched to pepsi insert today but raining outside so no pics :(

adam78 · 4 July 2013, 03:32 AM

Aesthetically the late 1675 and matte dial 16750 are very similar, of course. The quick-set date is a big plus though. I love mine. I also have a 1675, but a late gilt-dial example with small triangle 24-hour hand, so they are quite different.

springer · 4 July 2013, 03:36 AM

They are both great watches and have been discussed and compared many times here. I own both models and wear a 16750 daily. I also placed an older USA rivet bracelet on the watch which I find very light and comfortable. I wouldn't fret too much over the bracelet since they are all fairly comfortable. Some prefer Oyster bracelets and others prefer the Jubilee. It is basically a personal preference choice.

Buying the model you want should be your first consideration and the bracelet should be secondary.

Good luck! Whatever you choose will surely be a winner.

landroverking · 4 July 2013, 03:40 AM

I prefer true vintage. 1675.

HL65 · 4 July 2013, 03:54 AM

Both are great and own both as well. For me it isn't which is better it is obtaining the best example of either one. So if I had to choose between a nice 1675 and a pristine 16750 the decision is easy--16750. If I had to choose between a nice 16750 and a pristine 1675 the decision is easy--1675. I also am speaking to matte dials and not a gilt 1675. As for bracelets--I prefer the correct bracelet that comes with watch. So if it is a folded link--works for me or if it is rivet for early example--works as well. All about preferences and taste is purely subjective! Again--when it comes to vintage watches it is all about quality so regardless of reference get the very best example money can buy! Cheers,

PatrickR · 4 July 2013, 10:23 AM

Dear all, as tradition would have it, allow me to point out that this is my first post, although I have lurked around many many hours reading your well-informed comments, reviews etc. Thanks for those.

As to the question at hand, I have spent close to two years looking for a 1675 or a 16750 (matte dial, painted indexes etc). In the end, two things mattered to me: 1) it's an organic thing and the watch had to speak to me, and 2) my passion for Rolex began at age 13, watching Magnum PI. So it had to be a GMT Master 16750, circa 1983 (when I was 13 and started watching the show and noticed the character's watch). For years after that, I longed for a GMT Master.

Eventually, I came across a 1983 16750, and I love it. Each time I put it on, I think back to the kid I was, watching the show, I hear the theme song, and Thomas Magnum's familiar: "I know what you are thinking...and you're right."

PatrickR

springer · 4 July 2013, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by landroverking

I prefer true vintage. 1675.

pdoukas · 4 July 2013, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Both are great and own both as well. For me it isn't which is better it is obtaining the best example of either one. So if I had to choose between a nice 1675 and a pristine 16750 the decision is easy--16750. If I had to choose between a nice 16750 and a pristine 1675 the decision is easy--1675. I also am speaking to matte dials and not a gilt 1675. As for bracelets--I prefer the correct bracelet that comes with watch. So if it is a folded link--works for me or if it is rivet for early example--works as well. All about preferences and taste is purely subjective! Again--when it comes to vintage watches it is all about quality so regardless of reference get the very best example money can buy! Cheers,

Holy poopsticks Ken........congrats on 30K

Oh, in regard to nice and pristine, when you go shopping for a toilet, have you ever found yourself debating between a pristine porcelain example or one of those nice high tech Japanese jobs that do everything for you except cook breakfast?

Lol,

Pete

greekbum · 4 July 2013, 04:53 PM

I would buy the nicest example I could afford of either model. They are both nice

Vincent65 · 4 July 2013, 06:45 PM

1675 for me - and gilt.

HL65 · 4 July 2013, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pdoukas

Holy poopsticks Ken........congrats on 30K

Oh, in regard to nice and pristine, when you go shopping for a toilet, have you ever found yourself debating between a pristine porcelain example or one of those nice high tech Japanese jobs that do everything for you except cook breakfast?

Lol,

Pete

Thanks Pete!

007Sub · 8 July 2013, 04:09 AM

Appreciative of all of your comments! Thanks so much for the input. One question regarding the bracelets. How do you know which is period correct? I know that some 1675s had folded and some had rivet. No?

RC2 · 8 July 2013, 06:05 AM

They came with both - what timeframe r u speaking about?

strafer_kid · 8 July 2013, 11:04 PM

Hi

Just picked up a one owner nearly mint Pepsi 1675 with box etc, with a 1.7mil serial (maybe 1967 or so) making it my oldest vintage to date. Got it from my AD who chanced upon it on a trade in. He serviced it, cleaned it up and replaced the Oyster bracelet out of necessity to a solid link one. I suspect it has also had a few other updates prior to him getting it. Whilst this clearly does not make it in 'original condition', it looks and feels really nice, and makes a change from my Subs - go for the 1675 - You will not be disappointed!

Mr. Doug · 9 July 2013, 04:23 AM

For whatever reason, I like the plexi crystal watches. I believe the 16750 is a sapphire, so that'd nix it for me.

From arms-length, they both have the same aesthetics, so it comes down to what YOU want. Nice 1675s are starting to get harder to come by, so that's something to consider. I usually go off of a gut-check. I was all set to buy a 1675 one day and when I walked into the shop in Columbus GA, they had a 1655 that had just been traded in. I got a smokin' deal on a 'grail' watch, and forgot all about the 1675 that I'd gone in to see in the first place.

All things happen for a reason, so unless you're checking a watch off of a "must have" list, just buy the one that speaks to you at the time of purchase.

wahasa · 9 July 2013, 04:31 AM

1675 for sure. 16750 is just not vintage.

springer · 9 July 2013, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by wahasa

1675 for sure. 16750 is just not vintage.

Really. I guess I never knew!

Kingair · 9 July 2013, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robi74

Congrats

Stunning shot of a stunning watch

HAGM

zeuloa · 9 July 2013, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Both are great and own both as well. For me it isn't which is better it is obtaining the best example of either one. So if I had to choose between a nice 1675 and a pristine 16750 the decision is easy--16750. If I had to choose between a nice 16750 and a pristine 1675 the decision is easy--1675. I also am speaking to matte dials and not a gilt 1675. As for bracelets--I prefer the correct bracelet that comes with watch. So if it is a folded link--works for me or if it is rivet for early example--works as well. All about preferences and taste is purely subjective! Again--when it comes to vintage watches it is all about quality so regardless of reference get the very best example money can buy! Cheers,

I like your advice!

wahasa · 9 July 2013, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by springer

Really. I guess I never knew!

Really... For me and a number of collectors out there.

007Sub · 12 July 2013, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wahasa

Really... For me and a number of collectors out there.

Good to know. I tend to think anything with a matte dial is vintage though ;)

skprd13 · 12 July 2013, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wahasa

1675 for sure. 16750 is just not vintage.

Hmmm just not vintage?

springer · 13 July 2013, 01:26 AM

The 16750 crystal is acrylic. Mr. Doug's comment in another post stated that the 16750 had a sapphire crystal. If it did have a sapphire crystal, I'd agree with your comment that it is not vintage.

conrail · 13 July 2013, 01:34 AM

I owned a 1675 and will say that your fingers will go raw from that stupid little crown if you haven't worn the watch in a handful of days don't have a quickset date feature ;-)

springer · 13 July 2013, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skprd13

Hmmm just not vintage?

Tom, I got a chuckle out of that comment too!

3 July 2013, 04:05 PM	#1
007Sub "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Greg Location: USA Watch: 5514 Posts: 1,630	GMT 1675 or 16750?? So I'm starting to fall in love with the pepsi vintage GMT. Before I decide to buy anything I go through hours of consideration and deliberation (I actually find this nearly as exciting as buying the watch itself). My question to you is what would you choose and why? 1675: big pro for me are the more radial bevels of the earlier ones. I just love beveled edges. 16750: big pro. Quick set date and better (?) movement. Thoughts anyone? Also which bracelet is most appropriate for these in your opinion? The rivet? Or folded? __________________ @true_patina @true.dome

3 July 2013, 07:27 PM	#3
joe100 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,753	The movements are both great. No worries there. A 1675 will be easier to find __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

4 July 2013, 03:32 AM	#7
adam78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,829	Aesthetically the late 1675 and matte dial 16750 are very similar, of course. The quick-set date is a big plus though. I love mine. I also have a 1675, but a late gilt-dial example with small triangle 24-hour hand, so they are quite different. __________________ Cheers, Adam

4 July 2013, 03:36 AM	#8
springer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,194	They are both great watches and have been discussed and compared many times here. I own both models and wear a 16750 daily. I also placed an older USA rivet bracelet on the watch which I find very light and comfortable. I wouldn't fret too much over the bracelet since they are all fairly comfortable. Some prefer Oyster bracelets and others prefer the Jubilee. It is basically a personal preference choice. Buying the model you want should be your first consideration and the bracelet should be secondary. Good luck! Whatever you choose will surely be a winner. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

4 July 2013, 03:54 AM	#10
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,385	Both are great and own both as well. For me it isn't which is better it is obtaining the best example of either one. So if I had to choose between a nice 1675 and a pristine 16750 the decision is easy--16750. If I had to choose between a nice 16750 and a pristine 1675 the decision is easy--1675. I also am speaking to matte dials and not a gilt 1675. As for bracelets--I prefer the correct bracelet that comes with watch. So if it is a folded link--works for me or if it is rivet for early example--works as well. All about preferences and taste is purely subjective! Again--when it comes to vintage watches it is all about quality so regardless of reference get the very best example money can buy! Cheers, __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

3 July 2013, 04:10 PM	#2
skprd13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Tom Location: Kauai Watch: 1675-1680-16750 Posts: 3,346	Both incredible watches! Pepsi um good! Choose wishing grasshopper! You cannot go wrong!

3 July 2013, 11:15 PM	#4
lhanddds Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Watch: of course Posts: 8,429	Both are great. I currently have my 1675 on an oval link, very comfortable. I also have a rivet and an oyster but don't forget Natos and Zulus. My favorite watch. Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk 2

3 July 2013, 11:40 PM	#5
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,789	Both great, classic timepieces. I'd just try to find the best example of either model that's in your budget. (The quickset feature is under-rated, IMHO, if you have a steady rotation of watches. I hate swinging those hands around for five minutes to advance to the correct date!) I think the 16750 only came on a more modern Oyster or Jubilee. Happy hunting!

4 July 2013, 03:01 AM	#6
Robi74 Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Robert Location: Sweden/Croatia Watch: 1675 gmt Posts: 96	1675 if i may say! Love that watch from the very first time i saw it!!! So way the 1675, i realy dont know, for me there was onely the 1675! This one is a 1977/78 I also switched to pepsi insert today but raining outside so no pics :(

4 July 2013, 03:40 AM	#9
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	I prefer true vintage. 1675.

4 July 2013, 10:23 AM	#11
PatrickR "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Dubai Posts: 1	Dear all, as tradition would have it, allow me to point out that this is my first post, although I have lurked around many many hours reading your well-informed comments, reviews etc. Thanks for those. As to the question at hand, I have spent close to two years looking for a 1675 or a 16750 (matte dial, painted indexes etc). In the end, two things mattered to me: 1) it's an organic thing and the watch had to speak to me, and 2) my passion for Rolex began at age 13, watching Magnum PI. So it had to be a GMT Master 16750, circa 1983 (when I was 13 and started watching the show and noticed the character's watch). For years after that, I longed for a GMT Master. Eventually, I came across a 1983 16750, and I love it. Each time I put it on, I think back to the kid I was, watching the show, I hear the theme song, and Thomas Magnum's familiar: "I know what you are thinking...and you're right." PatrickR

4 July 2013, 04:53 PM	#14
greekbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Nikos Location: Florida Watch: Rolex GMT 16750 Posts: 8,415	I would buy the nicest example I could afford of either model. They are both nice __________________ Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 13,000 Days And Counting

4 July 2013, 06:45 PM	#15
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,293	1675 for me - and gilt.

8 July 2013, 04:09 AM	#17
007Sub "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Greg Location: USA Watch: 5514 Posts: 1,630	Appreciative of all of your comments! Thanks so much for the input. One question regarding the bracelets. How do you know which is period correct? I know that some 1675s had folded and some had rivet. No? __________________ @true_patina @true.dome

8 July 2013, 06:05 AM	#18
RC2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Rich Location: NC Watch: Rolex 1675 Posts: 2,359	They came with both - what timeframe r u speaking about? __________________ Rich Member of Nylon Nation Red Sox Nation Instagram watchguy97

8 July 2013, 11:04 PM	#19
strafer_kid "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Kenny Location: northern ireland Watch: SDs, Subs & GMTs Posts: 5,127	Hi Just picked up a one owner nearly mint Pepsi 1675 with box etc, with a 1.7mil serial (maybe 1967 or so) making it my oldest vintage to date. Got it from my AD who chanced upon it on a trade in. He serviced it, cleaned it up and replaced the Oyster bracelet out of necessity to a solid link one. I suspect it has also had a few other updates prior to him getting it. Whilst this clearly does not make it in 'original condition', it looks and feels really nice, and makes a change from my Subs - go for the 1675 - You will not be disappointed!

9 July 2013, 04:23 AM	#20
Mr. Doug "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Real Name: Doug Location: Shaker Hts., OH Watch: Milgauss GV Posts: 39	For whatever reason, I like the plexi crystal watches. I believe the 16750 is a sapphire, so that'd nix it for me. From arms-length, they both have the same aesthetics, so it comes down to what YOU want. Nice 1675s are starting to get harder to come by, so that's something to consider. I usually go off of a gut-check. I was all set to buy a 1675 one day and when I walked into the shop in Columbus GA, they had a 1655 that had just been traded in. I got a smokin' deal on a 'grail' watch, and forgot all about the 1675 that I'd gone in to see in the first place. All things happen for a reason, so unless you're checking a watch off of a "must have" list, just buy the one that speaks to you at the time of purchase.

9 July 2013, 04:31 AM	#21
wahasa "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: UAE Watch: Rolex Sub 1680 Posts: 216	1675 for sure. 16750 is just not vintage.

13 July 2013, 01:26 AM	#28
springer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,194	The 16750 crystal is acrylic. Mr. Doug's comment in another post stated that the 16750 had a sapphire crystal. If it did have a sapphire crystal, I'd agree with your comment that it is not vintage. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

13 July 2013, 01:34 AM	#29
conrail "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Boston Posts: 3,177	I owned a 1675 and will say that your fingers will go raw from that stupid little crown if you haven't worn the watch in a handful of days don't have a quickset date feature ;-) __________________ "Oh, you give a f****' aspirin a headache, pal!"

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