Stolen watch by Fedex Outlet at California Gardena

[freefly]

Originally Posted by MinMay

Yep, but that one had a discrepancy with the weight. This one had the same weight from point A to point B.

Do we know this for certain? If not, I'd be contacting FedEx to see if their data tracking shows any weight discrepancies along the way. But yes, if it was in fact stolen from someone at that FedEx office, I imagine they did so prior to scanning it in.

I'd also be sure to keep the original box and packaging untouched. Not sure what the logistical hurdles would be to get local LEOs to coordinate with US LEOs, but it would be worthwhile to try. For instance, if they could pull prints off of the inner contents/paper and/or the underside of the "new" tape, that would provide pretty solid evidence if they didn't belong to the OP or the seller. Even just requesting everyone in that FedEx office volunteer a set of elimination prints might weed out the thief.

Given the value here, it far exceeds the threshold for grand-theft (felony), so I would imagine that might help get more traction/attention.

Good luck OP.

[mrs_LA]

So I think here are some possible scenarios:

1) The seller took advantage of the good relationship for an opportunity to scam. Seller could have fabricated the "system is down for the day" story. I would never hand over a package unscanned EVEN if it wasn't a watch. Secondly, I find it very fishy that the seller would drop it off at 6:30 PM California time. Cutoffs are usually 5 pm. I would never leave a package overnight in a facility because it has missed a cutoff time for delivery pickups. Seller actually dropped off the package on May 2nd, the date it was scanned, with a box full of paper.

But if OP trusts the seller, then maybe this is not a possible scenario.

2) Seller dropped it off post-cut off time, which gave employees an excuse to say that system was down. It would have made it sit in the outlet overnight, which makes it more vulnerable to theft. Since the seller also filled up a customs form, that might have revealed a declared value in the form. Not going to question whether this part was appropriately filled in terms of value, but with ParcelPro, insured value needs to equate to declared value for it to be fully insured.

Sorry to hear, OP. Hope this gets sorted, and hopefully seller had some sort of proof that he did mail a watch and not a box of papers.

[MinMay]

Originally Posted by freefly

Do we know this for certain? If not, I'd be contacting FedEx to see if their data tracking shows any weight discrepancies along the way. But yes, if it was in fact stolen from someone at that FedEx office, I imagine they did so prior to scanning it in.

I'd also be sure to keep the original box and packaging untouched. Not sure what the logistical hurdles would be to get local LEOs to coordinate with US LEOs, but it would be worthwhile to try. For instance, if they could pull prints off of the inner contents/paper and/or the underside of the "new" tape, that would provide pretty solid evidence if they didn't belong to the OP or the seller. Even just requesting everyone in that FedEx office volunteer a set of elimination prints might weed out the thief.

Given the value here, it far exceeds the threshold for grand-theft (felony), so I would imagine that might help get more traction/attention.

Good luck OP.

OP stated...same weight.

[MinMay]

gaoxing84, did you ever get all your money back from your last incident where you sent money to a "trusted" seller in the USA and he decided to run off with your money?

Man, sorry bud you're having such bad luck. I thought you would stop dealing with international transactions..not worth the headache when something goes wrong.

[freefly]

Originally Posted by jvmartin

Why, oh why, leave an unscanned package in the possession of FedEX... it can't even ship until its been scanned anyway and insurance doesn't work until its scanned so that's literally the most careless thing that can be done...

Yeah, it sounds like he was a relatively seasoned seller. That makes such a careless oversight a lot less likely, IMO.
Still possible I suppose, but the "rogue seller" theory is certainly plausible as well. Hopefully the OP will get some answers...


OP: If you don't mind, who was the seller here? Just in case he did go rogue, it would be a good idea to let folks know, in case he is planning on continuing the trend...
Also, you might send him a link to this thread and ask him to respond with any/all info and updates.

[freefly]

Originally Posted by MinMay

gaoxing84, did you ever get all your money back from your last incident where you sent money to a "trusted" seller in the USA and he decided to run off with your money?

Man, sorry bud you're having such bad luck. I thought you would stop dealing with international transactions..not worth the headache when something goes wrong.

OP is a pretty active buyer/seller, so the odds of getting scammed are probably a bit higher in his case.
It certainly is a minefield out there, especially if you are inclined to chase deals with randoms over the (worldwide) interwebs.

[gaoxing84]

Originally Posted by freefly

Yeah, it sounds like he was a relatively seasoned seller. That makes such a careless oversight a lot less likely, IMO.
Still possible I suppose, but the "rogue seller" theory is certainly plausible as well. Hopefully the OP will get some answers...


OP: If you don't mind, who was the seller here? Just in case he did go rogue, it would be a good idea to let folks know, in case he is planning on continuing the trend...
Also, you might send him a link to this thread and ask him to respond with any/all info and updates.

The seller doesn't sell here anymore.
He sells to me directly since we have a good standing relationship

His username is xx0505xx.

We had a couple deal which all went very well.

We had a deal of a hulk and batman.
But he decided to keep the batman after I wired the funds.
So he is refunding the funds via bank wire which he provided the paperwork as proof but I have yet to receive it, might take 1 to 2 days since he sent it on a Friday even last week.

As of now. I believe it's a inside job by fedex until proven wrong.

Anyway for those who ask the declared carriage was, it was definitely not high and the description was used precision tool chrono.
So either the thief is smart as hell.

Does fedex ship centre have access to xray machine?

Usually, my other sellers will never leave the parcel without a scan.
I guess it was a mistake by this seller this time round.
So I even get him to get to the fedex ship centre to check on the parcel.
Was told that it will be sent today but not sure if he ever ask for it to be seen.

It was the outlet at 18115 S Main St, Gardena CA.

The seller was told to file a police report at Gardena area instead of his area In LA

[gaoxing84]

Originally Posted by MinMay

gaoxing84, did you ever get all your money back from your last incident where you sent money to a "trusted" seller in the USA and he decided to run off with your money?

Man, sorry bud you're having such bad luck. I thought you would stop dealing with international transactions..not worth the headache when something goes wrong.

Nothing was ever got back.
File a case with the fbi and hope he will never be able to get a proper job with that record.

[gaoxing84]

Originally Posted by mrs_LA

So I think here are some possible scenarios:

1) The seller took advantage of the good relationship for an opportunity to scam. Seller could have fabricated the "system is down for the day" story. I would never hand over a package unscanned EVEN if it wasn't a watch. Secondly, I find it very fishy that the seller would drop it off at 6:30 PM California time. Cutoffs are usually 5 pm. I would never leave a package overnight in a facility because it has missed a cutoff time for delivery pickups. Seller actually dropped off the package on May 2nd, the date it was scanned, with a box full of paper.

But if OP trusts the seller, then maybe this is not a possible scenario.

2) Seller dropped it off post-cut off time, which gave employees an excuse to say that system was down. It would have made it sit in the outlet overnight, which makes it more vulnerable to theft. Since the seller also filled up a customs form, that might have revealed a declared value in the form. Not going to question whether this part was appropriately filled in terms of value, but with ParcelPro, insured value needs to equate to declared value for it to be fully insured.

Sorry to hear, OP. Hope this gets sorted, and hopefully seller had some sort of proof that he did mail a watch and not a box of papers.

I check the opening hours for that outlet.
They close at 7.30pm but not sure about cut off time.

[MinMay]

Originally Posted by gaoxing84

Nothing was ever got back.
File a case with the fbi and hope he will never be able to get a proper job with that record.

sucks man...sorry to hear... Most companies perform a background check....

[gaoxing84]

Originally Posted by MinMay

sucks man...sorry to hear... Most companies perform a background check....

i hope he gets what he asked for.

Fk me over for 5grand and i hope his life is miserable.

i have met many wonderful people in TRF and sometimes there's some a-hole who tries to be funny.

i have sent photos of the parcel and the entire story to my local fedex and they're in the midst of investigating

[MinMay]

Originally Posted by gaoxing84

i hope he gets what he asked for.

Fk me over for 5grand and i hope his life is miserable.

i have met many wonderful people in TRF and sometimes there's some a-hole who tries to be funny.

i have sent photos of the parcel and the entire story to my local fedex and they're in the midst of investigating

+1 These are people who should locked in prison for life.

Just recently...FedEx workers are stealing phone, watches, etc. I'm sure there are more incident FedEx is not reporting to the public record.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crim...-away-cops-say

[gaoxing84]

Originally Posted by MinMay

+1 These are people who should locked in prison for life.

Just recently...FedEx workers are stealing phone, watches, etc. I'm sure there are more incident FedEx is not reporting to the public record.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crim...-away-cops-say

Yea. How can we ever trust these courier services.
It's never a perfect world.
People are willing to throw away a good job for a one time payment that doesn't even set them for life.

Just plain dumb.

You wanna commit a crime. It better be setting you for life if not it's pointless.
It's going to ruin your life.

Tsk

[Gtecko]

this is going to be a crazy story to follow up ... keep us updated.

[twinturb089]

Originally Posted by gaoxing84

The seller doesn't sell here anymore.
He sells to me directly since we have a good standing relationship

His username is xx0505xx.

We had a couple deal which all went very well.

We had a deal of a hulk and batman.
But he decided to keep the batman after I wired the funds.
So he is refunding the funds via bank wire which he provided the paperwork as proof but I have yet to receive it, might take 1 to 2 days since he sent it on a Friday even last week.

As of now. I believe it's a inside job by fedex until proven wrong.

Anyway for those who ask the declared carriage was, it was definitely not high and the description was used precision tool chrono.
So either the thief is smart as hell.

Does fedex ship centre have access to xray machine?

Usually, my other sellers will never leave the parcel without a scan.
I guess it was a mistake by this seller this time round.
So I even get him to get to the fedex ship centre to check on the parcel.
Was told that it will be sent today but not sure if he ever ask for it to be seen.

It was the outlet at 18115 S Main St, Gardena CA.

The seller was told to file a police report at Gardena area instead of his area In LA

So you wired him money for batman and a hulk, after the wire, he backs out and your still waiting for the wire refund? And then waiting "days" for a wire refund? I am no quincy, but it sure seems like your seller may have went bad.

[CorradoBrit]

If I was OP I'd contact the Fedex office manager and confirm the system was indeed down, when and for how long.

[gaoxing84]

Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

If I was OP I'd contact the Fedex office manager and confirm the system was indeed down, when and for how long.

yeap, i did provide all the relevant information to fedex and they're in the midst of investigating.

hope for the best now

[AJV_36]

Originally Posted by Noonan

Why in the world would anyone hand over a Rolex to FedEx when their system was down and they couldn't scan anything?

I was thinking same thing, makes me sick!! Hope all get sorted out!


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[mrs_LA]

Originally Posted by gaoxing84

I check the opening hours for that outlet.
They close at 7.30pm but not sure about cut off time.

https://local.fedex.com/ca/gardena/TOAA/

It looks like the latest dropoffs are:
Latest Express Dropoff
Monday – Friday 6:15 PM
Saturday 5:00 PM
Sunday No Pickup

[CorradoBrit]

For what its worth they certainly know how to upset the customer. Customer service seems sorely lacking
https://www.yelp.com/biz/fedex-ship-center-gardena

[gaoxing84]

Originally Posted by twinturb089

So you wired him money for batman and a hulk, after the wire, he backs out and your still waiting for the wire refund? And then waiting "days" for a wire refund? I am no quincy, but it sure seems like your seller may have went bad.

not so because international wire might take up to 4-5 working days.
he's using bank of hope and there's a photo of the wire document.

he's replying me as we speak and not once he did not reply. so as of now, we are trying to resolve the wire first while waiting for fedex to investigate.

some new updates.

police in california state doesn't allow a police report. they say we should bring it back to fedex instead.

[gaoxing84]

Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

For what its worth they certainly know how to upset the customer. Customer service seems sorely lacking
https://www.yelp.com/biz/fedex-ship-center-gardena

as far as i know, that neighborhood is pretty sketchy.
as told by a friend living in US cali as well

[Luke@TRF]

I’ve heard stories about someone sending a new iPhone back to Asia countries and it turns out to be a brick. Culprit was at the the receiving depot. Hope yours was insured

[mgsooner]

Originally Posted by gaoxing84

We had a deal of a hulk and batman.
But he decided to keep the batman after I wired the funds.

....what

[Brian HCM#1]

I NEVER ship any thing of great value without insuring it for its value and/or sale price. Something sounds fishy to me.

[kareemthedream33]

Originally Posted by mgsooner

....what

I'm not getting this part either. How did he decide to keep it after the funds were wired? Once a deal has been made and the other party has wired the funds, there should be absolutely no turning back at that point.

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[CorradoBrit]

Originally Posted by kareemthedream33

I'm not getting this part either. How did he decide to keep it after the funds were wired? Once a deal has been made and the other party has wired the funds, there should be absolutely no turning back at that point.

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And aren't we talking about a Batman that's missing? I'm confused

[whattimeyougot]

Why not mitigate all this risk and pop into an AD & pick up one of the ten BLNRs on display.....oh wait.

Sorry to hear about your bad luck but this is a good lesson to everyone on the risks and perils of purchasing online.

[socalwatchcollector]

Originally Posted by Rrpdc

+1.

+500

[CorradoBrit]

Originally Posted by gaoxing84

Anyway for those who ask the declared carriage was, it was definitely not high

This is going to influence any investigation. I can see why the police were not interested. How much is 'not high'? Thats all you'll get back even if Fedex accept liability. Who decided how much to put on the Waybill for insurance/customs value? Quite a few cautionary tales recently. I personally would not deal internationally via a common carrier.