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T_Swiss_T · 11 August 2020, 04:26 AM

Hi,
I just purchased a 5513 from an old customer of mine, he believes the dial, hands and insert are "replacements". Now the hands are definitely AM and insert too, but I'm wondering if the dial is perhaps original but relumed, or original but refinished instead of completely AM...also definitely not a service dial. It looks relumed to me, but others have the thought its 100% AM. What are your thoughts?

Image album: https://imgur.com/a/9sKALRB

mignonp13 · 11 August 2020, 04:31 AM

Hi

All is Aftermarket and poor quality sorry

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swish77 · 11 August 2020, 04:31 AM

I vote not original, either redone or completely aftermarket (aka fake). Font looks too thick. Lume looks suspiciously perfect too.

Michael M. · 11 August 2020, 12:17 PM

Dial is not original. Poor quality fake.

G3Z · 11 August 2020, 08:24 PM

The spacings and font on the ‘subm a riner’ are not great.

shiftf7 · 13 August 2020, 08:20 AM

Fake dial and fake hands, also they used the wrong second hand with the long tube so it sits too high.
Best is to get rid of the dial and hands find an original set. Preferably period correct, or if that is impossible an original service dial and handset. The insert is also fake, best to replace it with an original one.

Xyza0722 · 13 August 2020, 07:19 PM

Good advise

11 August 2020, 04:26 AM	#1
T_Swiss_T "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Real Name: M.P Location: Massachusetts Watch: 16710, 5513, 6263 Posts: 13	5513 Dial Question Hi, I just purchased a 5513 from an old customer of mine, he believes the dial, hands and insert are "replacements". Now the hands are definitely AM and insert too, but I'm wondering if the dial is perhaps original but relumed, or original but refinished instead of completely AM...also definitely not a service dial. It looks relumed to me, but others have the thought its 100% AM. What are your thoughts? Image album: https://imgur.com/a/9sKALRB

11 August 2020, 04:31 AM	#2
mignonp13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: France Posts: 58	Hi All is Aftermarket and poor quality sorry Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

11 August 2020, 04:31 AM	#3
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,791	I vote not original, either redone or completely aftermarket (aka fake). Font looks too thick. Lume looks suspiciously perfect too.

11 August 2020, 12:17 PM	#4
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	Dial is not original. Poor quality fake.

11 August 2020, 08:24 PM	#5
G3Z "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: United Kingdom Watch: Omega, Rolex etc.. Posts: 316	The spacings and font on the ‘subm a riner’ are not great.

13 August 2020, 08:20 AM	#6
shiftf7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Netherlands Posts: 104	Fake dial and fake hands, also they used the wrong second hand with the long tube so it sits too high. Best is to get rid of the dial and hands find an original set. Preferably period correct, or if that is impossible an original service dial and handset. The insert is also fake, best to replace it with an original one.

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