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Old 22 April 2017, 05:47 PM   #61
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Not sure I agree with all of this. Rolex releasing an updated model, fair enough, I get that.

As for used values? No, not having that. Have you seen how much the new 671 is going for?

Also, DavidSW has a P series 372, which is either 3 or 4 years old (I don't know if there was a Q serial). He's knocking it out at US$5,975, which I would think is not that much of a saving over a new one considering it's at least three years old. Ok, so it hasn't retained the value of something like, say, a Sub or BLNR but it's probably on par with an Explorer II and better than a DJ. None of the Rolexes would come close to a PP Nautilus but who cares? I personally do not buy watches with an eye on future value. I buy to wear, to love and to enjoy. Unless you can afford pieces that cost similar money to a small Caribbean island, then buying watches as an investment is a mug's game.

Panerai might not be for everyone but then it never was. You get a Panerai for the love of the design and the brand. No one puts a gun to your head and forces you to buy one.

x1,000,000!

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This is a watch forum to share what we love. Yet it's amazing how many people lose sight of this and get negative.

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Old 22 April 2017, 06:00 PM   #62
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Love Panerai but I totally stop buying anymore after I bought my 372. Love my 372 to bits and totally avoid using it as much as I can since it will totally screw up my rotation schedule. I can wear the 372 for a month with out any need to change to other watches. It is that good!

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Old 22 April 2017, 06:10 PM   #63
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I have bought +100 watches over the years and have NEVER flipped one.

My 231 will always be a favourite.
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Old 22 April 2017, 06:12 PM   #64
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I have bought +100 watches over the years and have NEVER flipped one.

My 231 will always be a favourite.
You currently own over 100 watches?

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Old 22 April 2017, 08:52 PM   #65
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x1,000,000!

Great post.

This is a watch forum to share what we love. Yet it's amazing how many people lose sight of this and get negative.

There's a watch out there for everyone and life is too short.

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Old 22 April 2017, 11:34 PM   #66
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Old 23 April 2017, 03:09 AM   #67
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This for all the haters that saying Panerai is fading it's still kicking strong 💪
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Old 23 April 2017, 03:46 AM   #68
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Hi, I am new to PAMs, but this post motivated me to share some thoughts. I'm a one and a half watch guy, don't need too many. Had a DJ since 2000, when I 1st time could afford a quality watch. Then got the Sub in the 201x. DJ by that time was forgotten in a safe. Aslo got a daily wear watch - B&M for times when Sub was inapropriate. Sure once in a while I would discover a new instrument to admire - some Breget or IWC or Zenith models or a lesser known AeroWatch Chrono, but was never inspired to the point of ownership. Then recently I discovered Panerai. I was wowed - enough said. I started a research but to me - there were so many minor or major show-stoppers with older models - size, thickness, long-term maintenance, fakes out there. So not until I ran into 1312, was I absolutely sure that I found my PAM. Size is perfect, blue hand is an attractive feature for me. It has a new movement. And since I am a newcomer, I have no alliegance to historic DNA footprint. I got it at a price point I am happy with and also managed to get a favorable trade-in value for old unused DJ. So my point is that Panerai is not dead. They are experimenting with new models, sometime sucessfuly. I would not be a PAM owner now if they didn't experiment and produced 1312 model that I fell in love with. They are attracting new dudes like me. I am now contemplating something like PAM 689 longer term. And hopefuly they will keep enough models in the line-up to make the legacy crowd happy. Peace.
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Old 23 April 2017, 03:46 AM   #69
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This for all the haters that saying Panerai is fading it's still kicking strong 💪
Gorgeous photo. The Pam fits in just perfectly with the rest of the group
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Old 23 April 2017, 05:07 AM   #70
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For those of us that purchased the watch because we the brand, Panerai will never fade. But if you like to chase fads, then sure it will fade in your mind, because you will have to go with what someone else is considering trendy or whats in at the moment.

I truly the strap game when it comes to Panerai watches. My 233 holds its own with my AP and Rolex watches, because of the different straps I wear, it gets the lions share of wrist time.
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Old 23 April 2017, 07:08 AM   #71
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This for all the haters that saying Panerai is fading it's still kicking strong 💪
Awesome photo!

Not to get off-topic, but did you drive the Nürburgring?
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Old 23 April 2017, 07:16 AM   #72
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Awesome photo!

Not to get off-topic, but did you drive the Nürburgring?

Thanks gents I didn't get there yet
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Old 23 April 2017, 07:26 AM   #73
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We all Paneristi for life 🤘🏻
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Hi, I am new to PAMs, but this post motivated me to share some thoughts. I'm a one and a half watch guy, don't need too many. Had a DJ since 2000, when I 1st time could afford a quality watch. Then got the Sub in the 201x. DJ by that time was forgotten in a safe. Aslo got a daily wear watch - B&M for times when Sub was inapropriate. Sure once in a while I would discover a new instrument to admire - some Breget or IWC or Zenith models or a lesser known AeroWatch Chrono, but was never inspired to the point of ownership. Then recently I discovered Panerai. I was wowed - enough said. I started a research but to me - there were so many minor or major show-stoppers with older models - size, thickness, long-term maintenance, fakes out there. So not until I ran into 1312, was I absolutely sure that I found my PAM. Size is perfect, blue hand is an attractive feature for me. It has a new movement. And since I am a newcomer, I have no alliegance to historic DNA footprint. I got it at a price point I am happy with and also managed to get a favorable trade-in value for old unused DJ. So my point is that Panerai is not dead. They are experimenting with new models, sometime sucessfuly. I would not be a PAM owner now if they didn't experiment and produced 1312 model that I fell in love with. They are attracting new dudes like me. I am now contemplating something like PAM 689 longer term. And hopefuly they will keep enough models in the line-up to make the legacy crowd happy. Peace.
Did someone say 689?
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Old 23 April 2017, 12:15 PM   #75
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Did someone say 689?
Last shot is a killer. Awesome.

This what make Pams great.

They are sporty watches but with the right strap you have wear them with suits no problem.


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Old 24 April 2017, 09:55 AM   #78
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One thing I don't care for with Pam are all of the limited editions. Is there a reason they do this?
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Old 24 April 2017, 11:02 AM   #79
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One thing I don't care for with Pam are all of the limited editions. Is there a reason they do this?
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Old 24 April 2017, 12:22 PM   #80
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Beautiful pics Paul well done
Thank you kindly, gents
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Old 25 April 2017, 03:26 AM   #81
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I still love Panerai, but I don't currently own one. I have owned about a dozen of them over the years, enjoyed them when I had them.

I currently think the big watch fad is fading, and that will affect Panerai. I am getting older I guess, and I want something around 40mm and comfortable on my wrist these days.

Another thought, I used to pay about $3500-$4000 for a nice Pam. Once they started to go main stream and the prices went up, you have to really think about what you are buying. $6000 for a 111 is just silly, base ETA and a strap. Panerai started to price themselves into a range were you can get much more for your money with another brand.
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I still love Panerai, but I don't currently own one. I have owned about a dozen of them over the years, enjoyed them when I had them.

I currently think the big watch fad is fading, and that will affect Panerai. I am getting older I guess, and I want something around 40mm and comfortable on my wrist these days.

Another thought, I used to pay about $3500-$4000 for a nice Pam. Once they started to go main stream and the prices went up, you have to really think about what you are buying. $6000 for a 111 is just silly, base ETA and a strap. Panerai started to price themselves into a range were you can get much more for your money with another brand.
I'm curious to know how you come to the conclusion that you can get more for your money with another brand?
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Old 25 April 2017, 12:07 PM   #84
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I still love Panerai, but I don't currently own one. I have owned about a dozen of them over the years, enjoyed them when I had them.

I currently think the big watch fad is fading, and that will affect Panerai. I am getting older I guess, and I want something around 40mm and comfortable on my wrist these
Another thought, I used to pay about $3500-$4000 for a nice Pam. Once they started to go main stream and the prices went up, you have to really think about what you are buying. $6000 for a 111 is just silly, base ETA and a strap. Panerai started to price themselves into a range were you can get much more for your money with another brand.
FYI Panerai is not fading stores and boutique opening all over the places people still buying from 40mm to 47mm including me yes I'm also getting older 44 years old and loving them yes I also made lots of money before selling for a profit like you did selling your dozen for a profit I'm sure about it and other companies selling eta movement for over 10k so for Panerai 111 for 6k it's not so bad have a great day
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Old 25 April 2017, 04:23 PM   #85
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Panerai ain't dead but it certainly ain't what it used to be.
I bought my 005 from gray dealer at almost full MSRP, and now they can be had for much friendly prices.
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Old 25 April 2017, 07:16 PM   #86
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Still like the Panerai that I have. Resale price has dropped but as everyone says, who cares what others say as long as you love the watch!
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It's interesting to watch where Panerai will go with the big watch trend gradually ending. Also, they're quite restricted in their range - it's either Radiomir or Luminor - so how will they keep public interest going?

I've owned two - a 372 and a 590 - and they're nice to own and wear but I can't see me buying any more, with the possible exception of a 425.
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I'm curious to know how you come to the conclusion that you can get more for your money with another brand?
You have been around a while, how do I need to explain anything to you? Compare a new Omega with a 8500 for the same price as the base Panerai. Compare a new Tudor with inhouse movement and a 70 hour power reserve against the new joke of a watch base Pams. Panerai makes some great watches, I still like them a lot. I just personally lost interest in larger watches and I have come to realize that I can get much more bang for my buck in the $5000-$6000 range than a Panerai.
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FYI Panerai is not fading stores and boutique opening all over the places people still buying from 40mm to 47mm including me yes I'm also getting older 44 years old and loving them yes I also made lots of money before selling for a profit like you did selling your dozen for a profit I'm sure about it and other companies selling eta movement for over 10k so for Panerai 111 for 6k it's not so bad have a great day
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