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Old 24 June 2017, 10:08 PM   #1
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My new datejust king fahd opinions needed.

Hi, Just bought a mint datejust king fahd, no papers, so i will need to take it to a RSC next monday. To me it looks perfect, but would like to hear from the experts.

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Old 24 June 2017, 11:09 PM   #2
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With no papers it is hard to determine if the dial is original. Its a nice piece otherwise. Im very suspect since the lume is so white and the rest of the watch is so grungy. I hate when re-sellers sell watches that are dirty. That bracelet is bad. Im also suspect of the T SWISS MADE T. The style of the dial should put it in the mid to late 70s so shouldnt it be T SWISS T?
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Old 24 June 2017, 11:33 PM   #3
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Why is the bracelet bad??

Can you please explain.
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Old 24 June 2017, 11:33 PM   #4
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With no papers it is hard to determine if the dial is original. Its a nice piece otherwise. Im very suspect since the lume is so white and the rest of the watch is so grungy. I hate when re-sellers sell watches that are dirty. That bracelet is bad. Im also suspect of the T SWISS MADE T. The style of the dial should put it in the mid to late 70s so shouldnt it be T SWISS T?
Previous owner said it was used few times over the years, kept in safe most os the time what is wrong with bracelete um our opinion?

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Old 24 June 2017, 11:35 PM   #5
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Why is the bracelet bad??

Can you please explain.
Bad as in really dirty. The dial is the only thing that looks suspect to me. The rest of the watch looks great.
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Old 24 June 2017, 11:40 PM   #6
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Lots of DNA on that one. Need a real expert on that dial.
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Old 25 June 2017, 12:12 AM   #7
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Lots of DNA on that one. Need a real expert on that dial.
Agreed

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Old 25 June 2017, 02:36 AM   #8
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Some more Pictures, not easy to take a good photo with a cell phone..

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Old 25 June 2017, 02:45 AM   #9
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That's a really nice looking DJ 16030.
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It is a known issue that all of the SubC and GMTIIC's movement have reliability issues. Something to do with a spring that was introduced. I expect this to further increase the value of older Submariners and GMTIIs.
Heck why can't I start my own internet rumor and raise the prices of MY WATCHES!!!!
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Old 25 June 2017, 02:58 AM   #10
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That's a really nice looking DJ 16030.
Hi i believe its 16220. Is what it says on the green sticker, and its sapphire.

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Old 25 June 2017, 03:15 AM   #11
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With no papers it is hard to determine if the dial is original. Its a nice piece otherwise. Im very suspect since the lume is so white and the rest of the watch is so grungy. I hate when re-sellers sell watches that are dirty. That bracelet is bad. Im also suspect of the T SWISS MADE T. The style of the dial should put it in the mid to late 70s so shouldnt it be T SWISS T?
Hi, looking for the similar watches on internet (16220) saw quite a few with similar dials, not from 70s but 90s.
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Old 25 June 2017, 04:36 AM   #12
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You bought it for the dial, correct

Wear it, enjoy it.. Does anything else really matter?
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Old 25 June 2017, 04:53 AM   #13
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Hi i believe its 16220. Is what it says on the green sticker, and its sapphire.

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You're right....it's 16220 and I have one and I SHOULD know the correct reference number!!!
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Old 25 June 2017, 07:57 AM   #14
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It went from gold markers and hands to silver markers and hands? Someone check my eyes!

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Old 25 June 2017, 08:04 AM   #15
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Very nice King Fahd DJ. Dial looks to be authentic and appears to be from the late 80s - mid 90s.
Wear it in the best of health
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Very nice King Fahd DJ. Dial looks to be authentic and appears to be from the late 80s - mid 90s.
Wear it in the best of health
Thanks for your opinion!!!

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Old 25 June 2017, 09:29 AM   #17
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It went from gold markers and hands to silver markers and hands? Someone check my eyes!

I think the silver model that i bought looks better, not a fan of two tones.

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Old 25 June 2017, 09:32 AM   #18
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You bought it for the dial, correct

Wear it, enjoy it.. Does anything else really matter?
As Metallica said: Nothing Else Matters !!!!
Thanks for your opinion!

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Old 14 July 2017, 08:42 PM   #19
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Very nice King Fahd DJ. Dial looks to be authentic and appears to be from the late 80s - mid 90s.
Wear it in the best of health
You are right, Rolex rsc said is from 1989. Asked them to not touch my dial and hands, they have agreed. Full service, no polishing, and not touching my dial (they have ruined one tudor dial i have sent there once) and not replacing my hands, only thing (external) they will need to replace is the Crown because of the water proof warranty they need to give me. I have agreed. Will be back to me next week or so.

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