ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

nicomendoza · 25 June 2017, 09:05 AM

Hi, newbie here and to watches in general. I only got one watch, a Rolex Datejust 41, which I chose over a Submariner at the time I bought it, and now to which I am fond of.

Now here goes the time to consider what I'm gonna buy myself next.

I went to a local AD without knowing anything about PP and fell in love with the Calatrava 5227G.

But then of course I went online, and almost universally people recommend the 5711. I tried to look and get on waiting lists and figured I got a better chance on the 5712 so now I'm on the waiting list for that (8-12 mos from an AD in the US)

Which now puts me at asking what I should be buying - the 5227G is pure love while the 5712 is a "safe" choice. I'm 31yo, self-employed with my share of attending important functions and meetings, and I plan to make this watch an all-rounder, wearing it anywhere from an important meeting to strolling at the mall.

I realize the 5227G is more closer to the PP brand, and somehow that is an upside for me.

Any thoughts?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

hughiee2 · 25 June 2017, 09:31 AM

All-rounder safe choice is the 5712/1A. Be patient and wait for the 5712.

KarlS · 25 June 2017, 09:32 AM

Buy what you love and don't fall into the trap of buying the "hype"!

AK797 · 25 June 2017, 10:58 AM

Between safe and love, I go love every time... at least with watches.

Vipes · 25 June 2017, 11:15 AM

I know everyone will say buy the one you love. This is really good advice but consider versatility into the equation. The more versatile piece always wins with me. In this situation, I would pick the 5712. It can be dressed up or down.

alexlt730512 · 25 June 2017, 11:35 AM

i think 5712 might be a better choice.

derekstlmo · 25 June 2017, 12:45 PM

Go with what you like

nyc2la · 25 June 2017, 12:50 PM

Safe or not, the 5712/1a is an excellent choice. As is the 5227, but only you can decide - they wear totally differently. Good luck and take your time. Don't rush it - mistakes cost money.

jon_jon · 25 June 2017, 01:42 PM

The 5227G and 5712/1A are both very nice watches. However my suggestion is to try on as many different Patek watches on your wrist as you can at ADs and/or pre-owned stores. You may be surprised that there are many other watches you really like as well.

Just an observation, but from your 5227G photo, it appears you have a fairly large wrist size. Have you looked at some other watches besides the 5227 or the 5712?

Hollister · 25 June 2017, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicomendoza

Hi, newbie here and to watches in general. I only got one watch, a Rolex Datejust 41, which I chose over a Submariner at the time I bought it, and now to which I am fond of.

Now here goes the time to consider what I'm gonna buy myself next.

I went to a local AD without knowing anything about PP and fell in love with the Calatrava 5227G.

But then of course I went online, and almost universally people recommend the 5711. I tried to look and get on waiting lists and figured I got a better chance on the 5712 so now I'm on the waiting list for that (8-12 mos from an AD in the US)

Which now puts me at asking what I should be buying - the 5227G is pure love while the 5712 is a "safe" choice. I'm 31yo, self-employed with my share of attending important functions and meetings, and I plan to make this watch an all-rounder, wearing it anywhere from an important meeting to strolling at the mall.

I realize the 5227G is more closer to the PP brand, and somehow that is an upside for me.

Any thoughts?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Always get the one you prefer, don't wear someone else's choice.

lapince · 26 June 2017, 02:13 AM

5712 of course, the coolest Nautilus IMHO, super comfortable, of my 5 watches, it's my favorite.

But get the one you love most, for me no doubt : 5712

but it is just so cool

kneedeep · 26 June 2017, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarlS

Buy what you love and don't fall into the trap of buying the "hype"!

This

Calatrava r · 26 June 2017, 05:56 AM

These two watches are so totally different to me. I would think the 5712 is the better choice of the two where you can only buy one. As they say buy both and avoid these agonizing decisions.

Calatrava r · 26 June 2017, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicomendoza

Hi, newbie here and to watches in general. I only got one watch, a Rolex Datejust 41, which I chose over a Submariner at the time I bought it, and now to which I am fond of.

Now here goes the time to consider what I'm gonna buy myself next.

I went to a local AD without knowing anything about PP and fell in love with the Calatrava 5227G.

But then of course I went online, and almost universally people recommend the 5711. I tried to look and get on waiting lists and figured I got a better chance on the 5712 so now I'm on the waiting list for that (8-12 mos from an AD in the US)

Which now puts me at asking what I should be buying - the 5227G is pure love while the 5712 is a "safe" choice. I'm 31yo, self-employed with my share of attending important functions and meetings, and I plan to make this watch an all-rounder, wearing it anywhere from an important meeting to strolling at the mall.

I realize the 5227G is more closer to the PP brand, and somehow that is an upside for me.

Any thoughts?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

One, your AD should take the plastic off for you to really appreciate the watch as a serious buyer.

nicomendoza · 26 June 2017, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calatrava r

One, your AD should take the plastic off for you to really appreciate the watch as a serious buyer.

Yup I went by today and got it removed. Now a lot better. I probably would be getting this watch.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Silver Bullet · 27 June 2017, 12:16 AM

You've got a steel watch, and you love the 5227g, so get it to satisfy your passion and to round out your collection. It is the ultimate Calatrava, and the only dress watch you'll ever need. The hidden officer's case back is unique and permits a reflection of the beautiful movement so that you can watch it "in stereo".

The only thing is that they lose a significant amount of value. Consider buying second hand.

kilyung · 27 June 2017, 02:12 AM

Buy what you love and not what others tell you to get. I've owned both models but only kept the 5227. My favorite PP to date (yes even more than my Nautiluses).

hdfb910 · 27 June 2017, 02:40 AM

Buy it!

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

hdfb910 · 27 June 2017, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kilyung

Buy what you love and not what others tell you to get. I've owned both models but only kept the 5227. My favorite PP to date (yes even more than my Nautiluses).

Love that watch too. Something about the "lines" of the 5227's

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

nicomendoza · 27 June 2017, 07:13 AM

Looks like I'm more confident buying the Calatrava then! I've been dreaming about it all weekend, and what I'll be engraving on that caseback :)

Gotta love that in RG also... never saw it in RG, but I'll be sure to try one on.

Wouldn't RG be a problem though if I plan to use this watch casually? My use is more casual than it is business... I mean, I go to work everyday, and there we do smart business casual... and outside of work, I usually wear polos and chino shorts.

hdfb910 · 27 June 2017, 08:44 AM

I wear mine casually too. I do strap changes just like I do my Panerai.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

hdfb910 · 27 June 2017, 08:46 AM

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

nicomendoza · 27 June 2017, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hdfb910

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That's just awesome!!! I'm definitely buying that black Calatrava now.

Thanks a lot!

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

nicomendoza · 29 June 2017, 03:59 PM

Tried this on today and makes me have buttterflies on my tummy :)

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

25 June 2017, 09:05 AM	#1
nicomendoza "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Philippines Posts: 27	Nautilus 5712 vs Calatrava 5227G Hi, newbie here and to watches in general. I only got one watch, a Rolex Datejust 41, which I chose over a Submariner at the time I bought it, and now to which I am fond of. Now here goes the time to consider what I'm gonna buy myself next. I went to a local AD without knowing anything about PP and fell in love with the Calatrava 5227G. But then of course I went online, and almost universally people recommend the 5711. I tried to look and get on waiting lists and figured I got a better chance on the 5712 so now I'm on the waiting list for that (8-12 mos from an AD in the US) Which now puts me at asking what I should be buying - the 5227G is pure love while the 5712 is a "safe" choice. I'm 31yo, self-employed with my share of attending important functions and meetings, and I plan to make this watch an all-rounder, wearing it anywhere from an important meeting to strolling at the mall. I realize the 5227G is more closer to the PP brand, and somehow that is an upside for me. Any thoughts? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

25 June 2017, 12:50 PM	#8
nyc2la "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Stephen Location: Beach Watch: 16660 Posts: 9,176	Safe or not, the 5712/1a is an excellent choice. As is the 5227, but only you can decide - they wear totally differently. Good luck and take your time. Don't rush it - mistakes cost money. __________________ "Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." --- RWE

27 June 2017, 02:40 AM	#18
hdfb910 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Pete Location: Texas Posts: 571	Buy it! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Patek Philippe 5711/1A-010, Patek Philippe 5170G, Patek Philippe 5227R, Audemar Piguet 15400or, Audemar Piguet 15707ce, Audemar Piguet 26331IP, Audemar 15500 Blue dial, Rolex Pepsi 16710, Rolex Sub 116619LB (Smurf) F.P Journe Platinum Chronometre Souverain, Old School Breitling SuperOcean A17360, Jaeger LeCoultre Geophysic Tru Seconds Instagram: @donpedro_007

27 June 2017, 08:44 AM	#21
hdfb910 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Pete Location: Texas Posts: 571	I wear mine casually too. I do strap changes just like I do my Panerai. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Patek Philippe 5711/1A-010, Patek Philippe 5170G, Patek Philippe 5227R, Audemar Piguet 15400or, Audemar Piguet 15707ce, Audemar Piguet 26331IP, Audemar 15500 Blue dial, Rolex Pepsi 16710, Rolex Sub 116619LB (Smurf) F.P Journe Platinum Chronometre Souverain, Old School Breitling SuperOcean A17360, Jaeger LeCoultre Geophysic Tru Seconds Instagram: @donpedro_007

27 June 2017, 08:46 AM	#22
hdfb910 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Pete Location: Texas Posts: 571	Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Patek Philippe 5711/1A-010, Patek Philippe 5170G, Patek Philippe 5227R, Audemar Piguet 15400or, Audemar Piguet 15707ce, Audemar Piguet 26331IP, Audemar 15500 Blue dial, Rolex Pepsi 16710, Rolex Sub 116619LB (Smurf) F.P Journe Platinum Chronometre Souverain, Old School Breitling SuperOcean A17360, Jaeger LeCoultre Geophysic Tru Seconds Instagram: @donpedro_007

25 June 2017, 09:31 AM	#2
hughiee2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Monterey Posts: 247	All-rounder safe choice is the 5712/1A. Be patient and wait for the 5712.

25 June 2017, 09:32 AM	#3
KarlS Banned Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Karl Location: Kuwait Posts: 5,228	Buy what you love and don't fall into the trap of buying the "hype"!

25 June 2017, 10:58 AM	#4
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,220	Between safe and love, I go love every time... at least with watches.

25 June 2017, 11:15 AM	#5
Vipes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 4,835	I know everyone will say buy the one you love. This is really good advice but consider versatility into the equation. The more versatile piece always wins with me. In this situation, I would pick the 5712. It can be dressed up or down.

25 June 2017, 11:35 AM	#6
alexlt730512 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,245	i think 5712 might be a better choice.

25 June 2017, 12:45 PM	#7
derekstlmo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: Derek Location: st louis Watch: Sd4000 Posts: 518	Go with what you like

25 June 2017, 01:42 PM	#9
jon_jon "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 4,341	The 5227G and 5712/1A are both very nice watches. However my suggestion is to try on as many different Patek watches on your wrist as you can at ADs and/or pre-owned stores. You may be surprised that there are many other watches you really like as well. Just an observation, but from your 5227G photo, it appears you have a fairly large wrist size. Have you looked at some other watches besides the 5227 or the 5712?

26 June 2017, 02:13 AM	#11
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	5712 of course, the coolest Nautilus IMHO, super comfortable, of my 5 watches, it's my favorite. But get the one you love most, for me no doubt : 5712 but it is just so cool

26 June 2017, 05:56 AM	#13
Calatrava r 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 10,580	These two watches are so totally different to me. I would think the 5712 is the better choice of the two where you can only buy one. As they say buy both and avoid these agonizing decisions.

27 June 2017, 12:16 AM	#16
Silver Bullet "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Earth Watch: 5711 Posts: 262	You've got a steel watch, and you love the 5227g, so get it to satisfy your passion and to round out your collection. It is the ultimate Calatrava, and the only dress watch you'll ever need. The hidden officer's case back is unique and permits a reflection of the beautiful movement so that you can watch it "in stereo". The only thing is that they lose a significant amount of value. Consider buying second hand.

27 June 2017, 02:12 AM	#17
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,870	Buy what you love and not what others tell you to get. I've owned both models but only kept the 5227. My favorite PP to date (yes even more than my Nautiluses).

27 June 2017, 07:13 AM	#20
nicomendoza "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Philippines Posts: 27	Looks like I'm more confident buying the Calatrava then! I've been dreaming about it all weekend, and what I'll be engraving on that caseback :) Gotta love that in RG also... never saw it in RG, but I'll be sure to try one on. Wouldn't RG be a problem though if I plan to use this watch casually? My use is more casual than it is business... I mean, I go to work everyday, and there we do smart business casual... and outside of work, I usually wear polos and chino shorts.

29 June 2017, 03:59 PM	#24
nicomendoza "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Philippines Posts: 27	Tried this on today and makes me have buttterflies on my tummy :) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)