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Toivonen · 26 November 2013, 09:09 AM

Please...there are No Sub No Date...there are the submariner and the submariner date.
And for the purists there is only the submariner ( and the Sea Dweller XD)

vitalsignsrn · 26 November 2013, 01:21 PM

I prefer the 14060M over the 16660 just that the no date fit my smaller wrist better and I also found it lighter. On my white dial DJ I don't mind the cyclops so much, seems to blend in a bit better than a cyclops on the darker dials. I am depending more and more on my paper calendar and phone for the date these days. Life, like eye sight, changes…unfortunately..

BNA/LION · 26 November 2013, 01:29 PM

I like them both but went with date...

JimSnyder · 26 November 2013, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alcan

Decisions, decisions..........

Nice "pair" Al!

JimSnyder · 26 November 2013, 01:57 PM

My choice

venom43 · 26 November 2013, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by venom43

No date for me...already have a gmt....why have 2 watches that at a glance look alike.

I know I said this, and still agree with it, I actually went with the BB as my no-date and soon shall aquire the 50th LV as my Sub date. Which shall give me 2 watches that at a glance don't look like my GMT2c.

vitalsignsrn · 26 November 2013, 02:18 PM

I forgot to add, apart from the overall nicer feel of the 14060M, the baton marker at the 3 o'clock position started to grow on me. I finally get it now when the other posters say "it has a balanced look". :-D

Laszlo · 26 November 2013, 02:34 PM

Simplicity is formal symmetry. The Sub ND is no exception.

A.Sharp · 26 November 2013, 03:00 PM

I vote date

Karbo · 26 November 2013, 03:16 PM

No date
2 grails
5513 m1st and 14060m 2 liner

Eradicator · 26 November 2013, 04:30 PM

This is really easy.

Sub vs. Sub Date Diognostic Test v. 1.1

Without looking at any source, do you know the date today?

If you answered "no" you need a Sub Date.

If you answered "yes" and subsequently responded with the proper date, Sub (no date)

*If today is your birthday or a major holiday, retry test in 24 hrs.

Eugene-Taiwan · 26 November 2013, 04:34 PM

i would go with a no date just because it would look different from my GMTii

mrjm · 15 March 2014, 06:46 AM

Sub no date is coolest watch on the planet man

FTX I · 15 March 2014, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FTX I

Got the Date first and if I could have only one it would be the Date, but Im saving for a nd as well

First time quoting myself..Guess now I can humbly pretend Im Ken just for a second and say "not on my radar anymore"

(with all due respect sir)

ps. thanks for resuscitating the thread

Roller07 · 15 March 2014, 07:42 AM

I vote for the Sub date and THEN getting the Sub no date.

Tombstone · 15 March 2014, 07:47 AM

The Sub meets my personal ideas of perfection in a watch. I am amazed every time I see a Sub I still am excited about owing several Subs. I have not seen anyone wearing any form of the Sub were I felt the watch looked out of place on the owner. The Sub goes with any attire and the best part of the Sub being my grail watch is it's not a $30,000 watch and as such I can buy both the no date and the date without guilt feeling I spent way too much on a single watch. I chosen the no date on this poll due to the fact if I could only own one Sub it would be the no date. The date is nice and worth the investment IMHO.

frkm0005 · 15 March 2014, 08:02 AM

No date! IMHO the Sub Date looks similar to the GMT LN and are both similarly priced. I would go for the GMT in that case. To each his own tho

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Chewbacca · 15 March 2014, 09:37 AM

sub date for me. but the last gen sd is the real compromise over the two.

mvmbles · 15 March 2014, 09:41 AM

Sub Date if your only watch, no Date as part of a collection.

jay1988 · 15 March 2014, 10:14 AM

I prefer the ND all day long. I never understood the need to have a constant date on your wrist. The time changes every second, that's why I have a watch.

The date? I check my diary every day and see the date. Even if I don't then it's a quick calculation. Oh it was the 13th two days ago. What could the date be today?

I will make a comment though. Rolex made the Hulk, Smurf, YG sub etc. all with the date model. That could be because they can make a date model more expensive. I suspect however that they did some research into which one would sell better and the date came out on top.

I don't understand why they don't have ND prescious metal subs. I mean all you have to do is make a new dial (the dial you have without a hole) and put a movement in that you already have on the assembly line. Apart from that, it's the same watch they're already making.

A ND Hulk Smurf etc. would interest me a lot.

landroverking · 15 March 2014, 10:25 AM

Don't know what a "no date" is. But I like the clean lines of a Sub.

Just kidding I know what the OP means. There is the Sub and the Sub Date.

doubleroll · 15 March 2014, 10:27 AM

No date for me. I like the clean look and really do not like the cyclops...

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valgolfs · 15 March 2014, 10:39 AM

No date for me

ptugolf · 15 March 2014, 10:58 AM

It's hard to make a decision....

rph08 · 15 March 2014, 12:43 PM

I prefer the Submariner 14060m to a Sub date. I'll wear the Explorer II, 16570, when I need the date complication. I would also agree with earlier posts, which suggest that if you are going to own just one Rolex then it might be a good idea to get one with a date complication. In fact, I was amongst the "I'm only going to own one Rolex" crowd for years, and my first Rolex was an Explorer II 16570. BUT...then I joined this forum...and everything changed!!!

GED · 15 March 2014, 01:19 PM

Another vote for the ND.

Rondineli · 15 March 2014, 02:04 PM

I voted for the sub. It is winning 159 vs 152.
How can I change my vote?

jas316 · 15 March 2014, 02:33 PM

Had the LN and and currently LV, my vote is the Date model :)

View Poll Results: Sub date oooor No date Sub
Date	174	49.01%
No date	181	50.99%
Voters: 355. You may not vote on this poll

26 November 2013, 01:29 PM	#93
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26 November 2013, 02:34 PM	#98
Laszlo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Watch: Date & No Date Posts: 10,847	Simplicity is formal symmetry. The Sub ND is no exception. __________________ "You might as well question why we breathe. If we stop breathing, we'll die. If we stop fighting our enemies, the world will die." Paul Henreid as Victor Laszlo in Casablanca

26 November 2013, 03:00 PM	#99
A.Sharp "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: New York City Posts: 2,062	I vote date __________________ A.Sharp "I can't listen to that much Wagner, ya know? I start to get the urge to conquer Poland."

26 November 2013, 04:34 PM	#102
Eugene-Taiwan "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Taiwan Posts: 130	i would go with a no date just because it would look different from my GMTii __________________ current: ROO RG 44mm,116506,1601,16610LV,1655 sold: 116520 Black Dial, Tudor Heritage Classic Blue,116680,NomosAhoi,116710BLNR,ROO carbon 44mm,PAM507

26 November 2013, 09:09 AM	#91
Toivonen "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Vittorio Location: Italy Watch: SeaDweller Deepsea Posts: 986	Please...there are No Sub No Date...there are the submariner and the submariner date. And for the purists there is only the submariner ( and the Sea Dweller XD)

26 November 2013, 01:21 PM	#92
vitalsignsrn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Judy Location: Ontario Watch: 116234 - 14060M Posts: 4,607	I prefer the 14060M over the 16660 just that the no date fit my smaller wrist better and I also found it lighter. On my white dial DJ I don't mind the cyclops so much, seems to blend in a bit better than a cyclops on the darker dials. I am depending more and more on my paper calendar and phone for the date these days. Life, like eye sight, changes…unfortunately..

26 November 2013, 02:18 PM	#97
vitalsignsrn "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Judy Location: Ontario Watch: 116234 - 14060M Posts: 4,607	I forgot to add, apart from the overall nicer feel of the 14060M, the baton marker at the 3 o'clock position started to grow on me. I finally get it now when the other posters say "it has a balanced look". :-D

26 November 2013, 03:16 PM	#100
Karbo "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Paris, France Watch: Dayto/5164 Posts: 1,631	No date 2 grails 5513 m1st and 14060m 2 liner

26 November 2013, 04:30 PM	#101
Eradicator Banned Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: EU Posts: 41	This is really easy. Sub vs. Sub Date Diognostic Test v. 1.1 Without looking at any source, do you know the date today? If you answered "no" you need a Sub Date. If you answered "yes" and subsequently responded with the proper date, Sub (no date) *If today is your birthday or a major holiday, retry test in 24 hrs.

15 March 2014, 06:46 AM	#103
mrjm "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Blyth Posts: 7	Sub no date is coolest watch on the planet man

15 March 2014, 07:42 AM	#105
Roller07 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: GMT -5 Watch: HulkPepsiCoke Posts: 2,364	I vote for the Sub date and THEN getting the Sub no date.

15 March 2014, 07:47 AM	#106
Tombstone "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Richard Location: LV, NV Watch: LV Sub and others Posts: 2,689	The Sub meets my personal ideas of perfection in a watch. I am amazed every time I see a Sub I still am excited about owing several Subs. I have not seen anyone wearing any form of the Sub were I felt the watch looked out of place on the owner. The Sub goes with any attire and the best part of the Sub being my grail watch is it's not a $30,000 watch and as such I can buy both the no date and the date without guilt feeling I spent way too much on a single watch. I chosen the no date on this poll due to the fact if I could only own one Sub it would be the no date. The date is nice and worth the investment IMHO. __________________ Always working...by choice

15 March 2014, 08:02 AM	#107
frkm0005 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Toronto Posts: 52	No date! IMHO the Sub Date looks similar to the GMT LN and are both similarly priced. I would go for the GMT in that case. To each his own tho Sent from my SM-N900W8 using Tapatalk

15 March 2014, 09:37 AM	#108
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,113	sub date for me. but the last gen sd is the real compromise over the two.

15 March 2014, 09:41 AM	#109
mvmbles "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Nick Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 759	Sub Date if your only watch, no Date as part of a collection.

15 March 2014, 10:14 AM	#110
jay1988 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Midlands Posts: 1,515	I prefer the ND all day long. I never understood the need to have a constant date on your wrist. The time changes every second, that's why I have a watch. The date? I check my diary every day and see the date. Even if I don't then it's a quick calculation. Oh it was the 13th two days ago. What could the date be today? I will make a comment though. Rolex made the Hulk, Smurf, YG sub etc. all with the date model. That could be because they can make a date model more expensive. I suspect however that they did some research into which one would sell better and the date came out on top. I don't understand why they don't have ND prescious metal subs. I mean all you have to do is make a new dial (the dial you have without a hole) and put a movement in that you already have on the assembly line. Apart from that, it's the same watch they're already making. A ND Hulk Smurf etc. would interest me a lot.

15 March 2014, 10:25 AM	#111
landroverking "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Jay Location: TEXAS Watch: Daytona Posts: 7,648	Don't know what a "no date" is. But I like the clean lines of a Sub. Just kidding I know what the OP means. There is the Sub and the Sub Date.

15 March 2014, 10:27 AM	#112
doubleroll "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Victor Location: NY Watch: 116520 Posts: 773	No date for me. I like the clean look and really do not like the cyclops... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk __________________ TRF made me do it...

15 March 2014, 10:39 AM	#113
valgolfs "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Steve Location: California Watch: 14060M, 18238 Posts: 33	No date for me

15 March 2014, 12:43 PM	#115
rph08 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Chris Location: USA Posts: 992	I prefer the Submariner 14060m to a Sub date. I'll wear the Explorer II, 16570, when I need the date complication. I would also agree with earlier posts, which suggest that if you are going to own just one Rolex then it might be a good idea to get one with a date complication. In fact, I was amongst the "I'm only going to own one Rolex" crowd for years, and my first Rolex was an Explorer II 16570. BUT...then I joined this forum...and everything changed!!!

15 March 2014, 01:19 PM	#116
GED "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Over Yonder Watch: d-d40wg Posts: 744	Another vote for the ND.

15 March 2014, 02:04 PM	#117
Rondineli Banned Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Houston, Texas Watch: DJ II Posts: 1,271	I voted for the sub. It is winning 159 vs 152. How can I change my vote?

15 March 2014, 02:33 PM	#118
jas316 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Toronto, Canada Watch: 116610LV Posts: 69	Had the LN and and currently LV, my vote is the Date model :)

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