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Old 5 November 2012, 01:30 PM   #91
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Do you home work. Search for watchmaker's credentials here:
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My pops knew and dove with the owner back in the 70's. Not sure who owns them now. East coast Florida.
ROLEX AUTHORIZED SERVICE CENTER
224 Vining Ct, Ormond Beach, FL 32176

(386) 677-6355

"We are the authorized Rolex Service Center servicing the Southeast United States and Puerto Rico since 1970. Rolex watches are serviced exclusively with a Rolex factory 2 year service warranty issued on applicable watches. This facility has state of the art equipment with factory trained technicians. Complete restorations are offered for most vintage Rolex watches. Less"
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Old 6 November 2012, 12:32 PM   #92
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Cruvon if you would like to add Rolex parts account to my listing it would be greatly appreciated. Rikki
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Old 6 November 2012, 01:09 PM   #93
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Do you home work. Search for watchmaker's credentials here:
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My pops knew and dove with the owner back in the 70's. Not sure who owns them now. East coast Florida.
ROLEX AUTHORIZED SERVICE CENTER
224 Vining Ct, Ormond Beach, FL 32176

(386) 677-6355

"We are the authorized Rolex Service Center servicing the Southeast United States and Puerto Rico since 1970. Rolex watches are serviced exclusively with a Rolex factory 2 year service warranty issued on applicable watches. This facility has state of the art equipment with factory trained technicians. Complete restorations are offered for most vintage Rolex watches. Less"
Thanks, will add them in!

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Cruvon if you would like to add Rolex parts account to my listing it would be greatly appreciated. Rikki
Hi Rikki, I initially thought would put that info in but was alerted to some watch repairers formely having Rolex parts accounts that were not renewed. In such a scenario it becomes extremely difficult to check Rolex parts account status, especially since Rolex doesn't share this information with clients. So thought is not a good idea to add that in since might not be current. That being said I did receive confirmation from Bob Ridley and you about having Rolex Parts accounts. Would have been great if Rolex provided some way of verifying them but pending which I think is best clients ask watchmakers themselves on their Rolex Parts Accounts so I took that info out. Let me know if there is some way of verifying that or your thoughts on that,

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Tom just got back from WOSTEP in Neuchatel, Switzerland for Schaublin 70 certification. He can do it all!

http://www.wostep.ch/data/files/The%...e%20Course.pdf


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Tom just got back from WOSTEP in Neuchatel, Switzerland for Schaublin 70 certification. He can do it all!

http://www.wostep.ch/data/files/The%...e%20Course.pdf


D's TIME SERVICE
Owner - Tom Doan (CW21 Certified)
861 Sixth Ave #219 San Diego, CA 92101
Tel. (619) 696-9464 // dstsvc@gmail.com
www.dstimeservice.com


Thanks for the info Leon, will add him in!
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Hi guys, thought will add in a Bracelet restoration contacts to the above so that we don't have to look for this info again, please suggest anymore bracelet repairers you might want to add to the list though I suspect Michael's the only one out there

Adding Michael Youngs details, these are correct?

Email: enquiry@classicwatchparts.com
http://www.classicwatchparts.com/index.php?c=2&p=band

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************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************

Global List of Vintage Rolex Servicing centres

************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************
Vintage repair and restoration is as unique a niche as vintage collecting - both require passion for the watches, patient acquisition of the knowledge, and pursuit of the elusive..Bob Ridley


USA
************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************

East



Ernest Tope CMW21
http://watchrestoration.com/Experience.htm
Watch Service - service@watchrestoration.com
(813) 802-4884
Masterpiece Watch Restoration LLC
PO Box 678
Mango, Fl 33550-0678



Rik E. Dietel CW21, member AWCI
http://timecareinc.com/
rikki.234@hotmail.com
727-215-8870
Time Care Inc.
P.O.Box 7489
Seminole, Florida. 33775

watchrepair.net
1499 Palmetto Park Rd.
Boca Raton, FL 33486
(888)876-9282
(561)368-1211
Jeff@watchrepair.net



Dominique Wieland
PO Box 403
616 East Savidge Street
Spring Lake, MI 49456
(800) 237-6398
http://dominiquewieland.com



West


RSC
Contact: Giovanni
210 Post Street, Suite 704-705
San Francisco, CA 94108
(415) 982-9830



Four Crowns
Contact: Shant Der Boghosian *Owned by former Rolex of Beverly Hills employees
608 South Hill Street
Suite 1001 (10th Floor)
Los Angeles, CA 90014
213-488-3381 office



Dalton Toledo, Alex Kohut
ABC Watchwerks
635 S. Hill St., Suite 807
Los Angeles, CA 90014
Tel (213) 489-1816


Tom Doan, CW21
D's TIME SERVICE
861 Sixth Ave #219 San Diego, CA 92101
Tel. (619) 696-9464 // dstsvc@gmail.com
www.dstimeservice.com


Mid West


Universal Watch Repair
555 South Old Woodward Avenue
Birmingham, MI 48009
(248)723-5550
http://www.universalwatch.net/


Fine Swiss Watch Repair
Owner: Kent Mikolite
55 E Washington St, Ste 736
(between Wabash Ave & Dearborn St)
Chicago, IL 60602
(312) 658-0602

Central

Bob Ridley , CW21, member AWCI
http://www.watchmakers.com/
Email - bobridley@watchmakers.com
(817) 276-1400 - Phone
(817) 275-2466 - Fax


Manuel Chamosa, CMW, member AWCI
Chamosa Watch Repair (Owner worked for 14 years at the Dallas RSC)
14785 Preston Road # 150
Dallas, TX 75254-7886
(972)404-9177



Canada
************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************

Rolex Canada Ltd.
Rolex Building
50 St. Clair Avenue West
Toronto, Ontario
M4V 3B7
416-968-1100

Damiani Jewllers
15 Jevlan Dr.
Woodbridge, Ont.
905-850-4653

Chonger
Authorized Rolex Service Center
Location is at HWY 400 and #7
Ont.





Australia
************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************
Sydney

RSC Sydney
Level 39, Tower Building, Australia Square,
264 George Street Sydney 2000.
New South Wales Australia. Tel: +61 2 9251 8988

MAX SCHWEIZER
SWISS WATCH SERVICE
Suite 313
375 George Street Sydney
Phone 9290 1469

CARL PARKER
PARKER TIME
Shop 1,
32 ferry Street,
Hunters Hill.
Phone 9816 1401

Expert Watch Repair
Suite 306, Level 3. 250 Pitt Street, Sydney, NSW 2000
p: (02) 9261 2229 f: (02) 9283 3405
http://www.watchrepair.com.au


Melbourne

RSC Melbourne
70 Collins Street Melbourne 3000.
Victoria Australia. Tel: +61 3 9654 3988.


Ferntree Gully Watch and Clock
117-119 Station Street, Ferntree Gully VIC 3156
PH: +61 3 9758 7740
http://http://www.ftgwatch.com.au/
Ask For Phil Gore

Canterbury Clocks & Watches
209 Canterbury Road, Canterbury VIC 3126
PH: +61 3 9830 1370
http://http://www.canterburycw.com.au/watches.html
Ask For Rory Macdonald



UK
************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************

Steve Hale
Watch Restoration
33 St. George St.
London
W1S 2FL

Tel: 00 44 207 495 3439

http://www.watchrestoration.co.uk


William Rice
Woodmansey
Beverley
Hull
East Yorkshire

Tel: 00 44 1482 873425

http://www.williamricewatches.com



Sweden
************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************

Kristoffer Polblad
Infinitum Jewelry & Watches
Kungsgatan 5
411 19 Gothenburg
Independent but Rolex certified.
Specialised in vintage Rolex.

http://infinitumsmycken.se/





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Rikki

Question @rolexsport: What is the difference between cmw21 and cw21?
Answer @Rikki:A CW is Certified Watchmaker and a CMW is a Certified Master Watchmaker. Certifications have been around for a long time this is the newest. Those that had a previous CMW were semi grandfathered in and only had to take 2 parts of the test I took because their CMW from before was more complicated. The AWCI hasn't as of yet put together a completely new CMW21, but they are working on it and as soon as it is ready I will test for that as well, of course after more classes and study. Also to keep your CW or CMW21 you have to take continueing ed courses and accrue between 5 and 7 credits to keep your license current every 5 years. Pretty much like doctors nurses opticians and so forth. Hope that clears it up a bit. Rikki

Question @cruvon: What are the pre requisites to take it, for example number of years experience, etc.? Also would be interesting to know what the different subjects the exam covers. Also what's the duration of the Certified Master Watchmaker exam?
Answer @Rikki: The 5 disciplines are 4 hour essay written test, 7750 Chronograph, eta automatic, eta quartz, and lathe work cut out a balance fit new one poise and properly center hairspring and oil. The only timed part is the written you have 3 1/2 days to complete the rest. They can induce up to 100 errors in the watches for you to diagnose and repair as well as clean oil adjust and case up. There is no CMW 21 test as of yet just 2 parts of the full test written and the chronograph and I believe you get 2 days to complete. You have to have 3 to 5 years experience to take the test. People coming out of wostep taking the test pass rate is slightly higher maybe 45 percent. So much has changed in the last 5 years alone materials oils quantities that you really have to take the prerequsite courses in order to pass the test. That's about all I got. Best thing I have done for myself and my business. Rikki


Question @Cavediver: Hi RIk, Are there any restrictions on how a watchmaker advertises the certifications? For example, can a watchmaker that is certified cw21 or cmw21 have a staff of non certified watchmakers that do the majority of the services while the certified watchmaker mostly does the management part of the business? I figure that is how Rolex operates.
Thanks
Answer @Rikki: I believe the Rolex service center in Dallas has approximately 40 or so certified watchmakers and about 60 or so watch techs who do most of the grunt work and the certified guys do the final adjusting. I do everything soup to nuts. I believe that Rolex requires anyone who does mechanical work as an Independant be certified not so sure about detailing and case work. My actual title is Rik Dietel CW21 and can use my certification as I see fit for advertising or whatever. There are many stores or workshops where the owner is not even a watchmaker and subs the work out like most of the jewelry stores on the planet. Some of the subs are certified some are not it's up to the consumer to ask and because certifications started to be swept under the rug in the early 80's so jewelry stores didn't have to pay a watchmaker to change batteries lobbyied by the big jewelry store chains education for watchmakers went down the tubes. Now that more mechanical high grade watches are being produced than at anytime in history the need for qualified watchmakers is needed more than ever. If any of you out there have a genuine interest in becoming a watchmaker there's no better time, the amount of work out there is generational,and I mean really generational. Okay enough of the soapbox you'all have a nice evenning. Rikki


Question @cruvon: are there any certifications that especially cater to vintage watches and their restoration (do any of the above mentioned certifications include that?), that would be the icing to the cake since though you'll know how to, many watchmakers out there have no clue about how a vintage watch needs to be handled!
Answer @Rikki: That all comes with experience and trial and error hopefully more trial than error hehe. You see vintage to me and Bob are the watches we cut our teeth on. We both have serviced more vintage than probably the next 20 guys put together just because we have been around longer. We lost a local watchmaker and friend some months back and he was working full days at 84 years old imagine what he has seen and the advancement and changes in technolgy. I believe Wostep in switzerland has a highend vintage course where they give you 10 projects to complete in 9 months it's pretty intense you're making parts drawing them out lots of machining work.

Barbara/Bob Ridley

"In light of industry developments we..now require that all spare parts accounts maintain a membership in the American Watchmakers - Clockmakers Institute (AWCI)....AWCI is currently the only resource for obtaining the new industry-supported Watchmaker Certification, which will become mandatory for all existing Rolex spare parts accounts within the next three years."

Since January 2011, AWCI certification is required in order to be eligible for a spare parts accounts. Further requirements exist, involving on-site inspection and equipment specifications. Watchmakers must maintain premium qualifications and shop standards in order to be eligible for a spare parts account. Without this account, a watchmaker cannot purchase genuine Rolex parts directly from Rolex.

It is our understanding (in agreement with Rik) that an independent watchmaker with a Rolex account must have approval by Rolex (verified certifications) in order to perform mechanical services to a Rolex watch.


Question @cruvon: are there any certifications that especially cater to vintage watches and their restoration (do any of the above mentioned certifications include that?), that would be the icing to the cake since though you'll know how to, many watchmakers out there have no clue about how a vintage watch needs to be handled!
Answer @Barbara/Bob: Bob's perspective is that "most U.S. watchmaker curriculum focuses on current/modern watches (expected within a market-driven industry). This benefits vintage repair, given thoughtful and well-considered application of some newer techniques. Overall, though, vintage repair/restoration is as unique a niche as vintage collecting - both require passion for the watches, patient acquisition of the knowledge, and pursuit of the elusive. "





NB: While this list serves to collate all vintage watch repairers forumers have possibly dealt with (from fellow forumers comments in the various threads) in one place, it in no way is a measure of the quality/originality of the work they might perform. Please conduct your own due diligence before you send in your beloved watch in for repair by asking questions on the forum, posting pictures, getting references, etc. Also please notify us of any concerns and if the forumers agree I can take them off this list.
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Old 29 July 2013, 11:06 AM   #98
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Cruvon, you could ad this official Rolex jeweler I posted in post 91:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...6&postcount=91

They are one of the few official Rolex jewels left.
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Old 29 July 2013, 11:33 AM   #99
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Cruvon, you could ad this official Rolex jeweler I posted in post 91:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showpost...6&postcount=91

They are one of the few official Rolex jewels left.
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Thanks mate, will do!
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Save yourself the hassle and go straight to ABC Watchwerks in LA or the Rolex Service Center in San Francisco.
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Kent Mikolite of Fine Swiss Watch Repair in Chicago (USA - Midwest) is also designated CMW with a Rolex technical certificate.

http://directory.awci.com/listing.php?id=864


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************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************

Global List of Vintage Rolex Servicing centres

************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************
Vintage repair and restoration is as unique a niche as vintage collecting - both require passion for the watches, patient acquisition of the knowledge, and pursuit of the elusive..Bob Ridley


USA
************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************

East



Ernest Tope CMW21
http://watchrestoration.com/Experience.htm
Watch Service - service@watchrestoration.com
(813) 802-4884
Masterpiece Watch Restoration LLC
PO Box 678
Mango, Fl 33550-0678



Rik E. Dietel CW21, member AWCI
http://timecareinc.com/
rikki.234@hotmail.com
727-215-8870
Time Care Inc.
P.O.Box 7489
Seminole, Florida. 33775

watchrepair.net
1499 Palmetto Park Rd.
Boca Raton, FL 33486
(888)876-9282
(561)368-1211
Jeff@watchrepair.net



Dominique Wieland
PO Box 403
616 East Savidge Street
Spring Lake, MI 49456
(800) 237-6398
http://dominiquewieland.com



West


RSC
Contact: Giovanni
210 Post Street, Suite 704-705
San Francisco, CA 94108
(415) 982-9830



Four Crowns
Contact: Shant Der Boghosian *Owned by former Rolex of Beverly Hills employees
608 South Hill Street
Suite 1001 (10th Floor)
Los Angeles, CA 90014
213-488-3381 office



Dalton Toledo, Alex Kohut
ABC Watchwerks
635 S. Hill St., Suite 807
Los Angeles, CA 90014
Tel (213) 489-1816


Tom Doan, CW21
D's TIME SERVICE
861 Sixth Ave #219 San Diego, CA 92101
Tel. (619) 696-9464 // dstsvc@gmail.com
www.dstimeservice.com


Mid West


Universal Watch Repair
555 South Old Woodward Avenue
Birmingham, MI 48009
(248)723-5550
http://www.universalwatch.net/


Fine Swiss Watch Repair
Owner: Kent Mikolite
55 E Washington St, Ste 736
(between Wabash Ave & Dearborn St)
Chicago, IL 60602
(312) 658-0602

Central

Bob Ridley , CW21, member AWCI
http://www.watchmakers.com/
Email - bobridley@watchmakers.com
(817) 276-1400 - Phone
(817) 275-2466 - Fax


Manuel Chamosa, CMW, member AWCI
Chamosa Watch Repair (Owner worked for 14 years at the Dallas RSC)
14785 Preston Road # 150
Dallas, TX 75254-7886
(972)404-9177



Canada
************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************

Rolex Canada Ltd.
Rolex Building
50 St. Clair Avenue West
Toronto, Ontario
M4V 3B7
416-968-1100

Damiani Jewllers
15 Jevlan Dr.
Woodbridge, Ont.
905-850-4653

Chonger
Authorized Rolex Service Center
Location is at HWY 400 and #7
Ont.





Australia
************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************
Sydney

RSC Sydney
Level 39, Tower Building, Australia Square,
264 George Street Sydney 2000.
New South Wales Australia. Tel: +61 2 9251 8988

MAX SCHWEIZER
SWISS WATCH SERVICE
Suite 313
375 George Street Sydney
Phone 9290 1469

CARL PARKER
PARKER TIME
Shop 1,
32 ferry Street,
Hunters Hill.
Phone 9816 1401

Expert Watch Repair
Suite 306, Level 3. 250 Pitt Street, Sydney, NSW 2000
p: (02) 9261 2229 f: (02) 9283 3405
http://www.watchrepair.com.au


Melbourne

RSC Melbourne
70 Collins Street Melbourne 3000.
Victoria Australia. Tel: +61 3 9654 3988.


Ferntree Gully Watch and Clock
117-119 Station Street, Ferntree Gully VIC 3156
PH: +61 3 9758 7740
http://http://www.ftgwatch.com.au/
Ask For Phil Gore

Canterbury Clocks & Watches
209 Canterbury Road, Canterbury VIC 3126
PH: +61 3 9830 1370
http://http://www.canterburycw.com.au/watches.html
Ask For Rory Macdonald



UK
************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************

Steve Hale
Watch Restoration
33 St. George St.
London
W1S 2FL

Tel: 00 44 207 495 3439

http://www.watchrestoration.co.uk


William Rice
Woodmansey
Beverley
Hull
East Yorkshire

Tel: 00 44 1482 873425

http://www.williamricewatches.com



Sweden
************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************

Kristoffer Polblad
Infinitum Jewelry & Watches
Kungsgatan 5
411 19 Gothenburg
Independent but Rolex certified.
Specialised in vintage Rolex.

http://infinitumsmycken.se/





Is your watchmaker certified?

Certification FAQ/Info, listed by contributor

Rikki

Question @rolexsport: What is the difference between cmw21 and cw21?
Answer @Rikki:A CW is Certified Watchmaker and a CMW is a Certified Master Watchmaker. Certifications have been around for a long time this is the newest. Those that had a previous CMW were semi grandfathered in and only had to take 2 parts of the test I took because their CMW from before was more complicated. The AWCI hasn't as of yet put together a completely new CMW21, but they are working on it and as soon as it is ready I will test for that as well, of course after more classes and study. Also to keep your CW or CMW21 you have to take continueing ed courses and accrue between 5 and 7 credits to keep your license current every 5 years. Pretty much like doctors nurses opticians and so forth. Hope that clears it up a bit. Rikki

Question @cruvon: What are the pre requisites to take it, for example number of years experience, etc.? Also would be interesting to know what the different subjects the exam covers. Also what's the duration of the Certified Master Watchmaker exam?
Answer @Rikki: The 5 disciplines are 4 hour essay written test, 7750 Chronograph, eta automatic, eta quartz, and lathe work cut out a balance fit new one poise and properly center hairspring and oil. The only timed part is the written you have 3 1/2 days to complete the rest. They can induce up to 100 errors in the watches for you to diagnose and repair as well as clean oil adjust and case up. There is no CMW 21 test as of yet just 2 parts of the full test written and the chronograph and I believe you get 2 days to complete. You have to have 3 to 5 years experience to take the test. People coming out of wostep taking the test pass rate is slightly higher maybe 45 percent. So much has changed in the last 5 years alone materials oils quantities that you really have to take the prerequsite courses in order to pass the test. That's about all I got. Best thing I have done for myself and my business. Rikki


Question @Cavediver: Hi RIk, Are there any restrictions on how a watchmaker advertises the certifications? For example, can a watchmaker that is certified cw21 or cmw21 have a staff of non certified watchmakers that do the majority of the services while the certified watchmaker mostly does the management part of the business? I figure that is how Rolex operates.
Thanks
Answer @Rikki: I believe the Rolex service center in Dallas has approximately 40 or so certified watchmakers and about 60 or so watch techs who do most of the grunt work and the certified guys do the final adjusting. I do everything soup to nuts. I believe that Rolex requires anyone who does mechanical work as an Independant be certified not so sure about detailing and case work. My actual title is Rik Dietel CW21 and can use my certification as I see fit for advertising or whatever. There are many stores or workshops where the owner is not even a watchmaker and subs the work out like most of the jewelry stores on the planet. Some of the subs are certified some are not it's up to the consumer to ask and because certifications started to be swept under the rug in the early 80's so jewelry stores didn't have to pay a watchmaker to change batteries lobbyied by the big jewelry store chains education for watchmakers went down the tubes. Now that more mechanical high grade watches are being produced than at anytime in history the need for qualified watchmakers is needed more than ever. If any of you out there have a genuine interest in becoming a watchmaker there's no better time, the amount of work out there is generational,and I mean really generational. Okay enough of the soapbox you'all have a nice evenning. Rikki


Question @cruvon: are there any certifications that especially cater to vintage watches and their restoration (do any of the above mentioned certifications include that?), that would be the icing to the cake since though you'll know how to, many watchmakers out there have no clue about how a vintage watch needs to be handled!
Answer @Rikki: That all comes with experience and trial and error hopefully more trial than error hehe. You see vintage to me and Bob are the watches we cut our teeth on. We both have serviced more vintage than probably the next 20 guys put together just because we have been around longer. We lost a local watchmaker and friend some months back and he was working full days at 84 years old imagine what he has seen and the advancement and changes in technolgy. I believe Wostep in switzerland has a highend vintage course where they give you 10 projects to complete in 9 months it's pretty intense you're making parts drawing them out lots of machining work.

Barbara/Bob Ridley

"In light of industry developments we..now require that all spare parts accounts maintain a membership in the American Watchmakers - Clockmakers Institute (AWCI)....AWCI is currently the only resource for obtaining the new industry-supported Watchmaker Certification, which will become mandatory for all existing Rolex spare parts accounts within the next three years."

Since January 2011, AWCI certification is required in order to be eligible for a spare parts accounts. Further requirements exist, involving on-site inspection and equipment specifications. Watchmakers must maintain premium qualifications and shop standards in order to be eligible for a spare parts account. Without this account, a watchmaker cannot purchase genuine Rolex parts directly from Rolex.

It is our understanding (in agreement with Rik) that an independent watchmaker with a Rolex account must have approval by Rolex (verified certifications) in order to perform mechanical services to a Rolex watch.


Question @cruvon: are there any certifications that especially cater to vintage watches and their restoration (do any of the above mentioned certifications include that?), that would be the icing to the cake since though you'll know how to, many watchmakers out there have no clue about how a vintage watch needs to be handled!
Answer @Barbara/Bob: Bob's perspective is that "most U.S. watchmaker curriculum focuses on current/modern watches (expected within a market-driven industry). This benefits vintage repair, given thoughtful and well-considered application of some newer techniques. Overall, though, vintage repair/restoration is as unique a niche as vintage collecting - both require passion for the watches, patient acquisition of the knowledge, and pursuit of the elusive. "





NB: While this list serves to collate all vintage watch repairers forumers have possibly dealt with (from fellow forumers comments in the various threads) in one place, it in no way is a measure of the quality/originality of the work they might perform. Please conduct your own due diligence before you send in your beloved watch in for repair by asking questions on the forum, posting pictures, getting references, etc. Also please notify us of any concerns and if the forumers agree I can take them off this list.
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abc watchworks
635 s hill st
los angeles, ca 90014
(213) 489-1816
agree, they did my gmt 16750,and very happy with the results..
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los angeles, ca 90014
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Here's another great one for U.S. Central. BTW he is as good as Bob Ridley and somewhat less expensive.

Chamosa Watch Repair (Owner Manuel Chamosa)
14785 Preston Road # 150
Dallas, TX 75254-7886
(972)404-9177

Here a two good ones for the Midwest Region of the U.S.

Universal Watch Repair
555 South Old Woodward Avenue
Birmingham, MI 48009
(248)723-5550
http://www.universalwatch.net/


Fine Swiss Watch Repair (owner Kent Mikolite)
55 E Washington St, Ste 736
(between Wabash Ave & Dearborn St)
Chicago, IL 60602
(312) 658-0602
I can't say enough good things about Chamosa! He's serviced 4 watches for me and could not be happier with the results! Much more affordable than RSC too. (He won't service a Daytona)
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I can't say enough good things about Chamosa! He's serviced 4 watches for me and could not be happier with the results! Much more affordable than RSC too. (He won't service a Daytona)
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Just want to give a shout-out to fellow TRF member and watchmaker extraordinaire RiK Dietel.

Just got back my vintage 1625 from Rick, and it looks great! His detailing work is simply outstanding. Have no worries trusting your vintage to him folks!
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Just got back my vintage 1625 from Rick, and it looks great! His detailing work is simply outstanding. Have no worries trusting your vintage to him folks!
Looks a beauty, great job by Rik, our inhouse watchmaker:)!
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Bump for more countries and repairers. There have been a few recent posts about Bob Ridley through threads and also some PM's to me. This was about some issues a few members have had which you are all aware of in other threads here as also very positive feedback from others over the years and recently. I understand he was going through hard times because of personal issues and allegations from his employee too, hope that's all sorted out now and he can get back to doing what he's best at and was historically known for. No changes to this list, just reposting to be at end of thread. As always please ensure you read this disclaimer before choosing to send your prized vintages to your watchmaker of choice!

DISCLAIMER: While this list serves to collate all vintage watch repairers forumers have possibly dealt with (from fellow forumers comments in the various threads) in one place, it in no way is a measure of the quality/originality of the work they might perform. Please conduct your own due diligence before you send in your beloved watch in for repair by asking questions on the forum, posting pictures, getting references, etc. Also please notify us of any concerns and if the forumers agree I can take them off this list.


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Global List of Vintage Rolex Servicing centres

************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************
Vintage repair and restoration is as unique a niche as vintage collecting - both require passion for the watches, patient acquisition of the knowledge, and pursuit of the elusive..Bob Ridley


USA
************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************

East



Ernest Tope CMW21
http://watchrestoration.com/Experience.htm
Watch Service - service@watchrestoration.com
(813) 802-4884
Masterpiece Watch Restoration LLC
PO Box 678
Mango, Fl 33550-0678



Rik E. Dietel CW21, member AWCI
http://timecareinc.com/
rikki.234@hotmail.com
727-215-8870
Time Care Inc.
P.O.Box 7489
Seminole, Florida. 33775

watchrepair.net
1499 Palmetto Park Rd.
Boca Raton, FL 33486
(888)876-9282
(561)368-1211
Jeff@watchrepair.net



Dominique Wieland
PO Box 403
616 East Savidge Street
Spring Lake, MI 49456
(800) 237-6398
http://dominiquewieland.com



West


RSC
Contact: Giovanni
210 Post Street, Suite 704-705
San Francisco, CA 94108
(415) 982-9830



Four Crowns
Contact: Shant Der Boghosian *Owned by former Rolex of Beverly Hills employees
608 South Hill Street
Suite 1001 (10th Floor)
Los Angeles, CA 90014
213-488-3381 office



Dalton Toledo, Alex Kohut
ABC Watchwerks
635 S. Hill St., Suite 807
Los Angeles, CA 90014
Tel (213) 489-1816


Tom Doan, CW21
D's TIME SERVICE
861 Sixth Ave #219 San Diego, CA 92101
Tel. (619) 696-9464 // dstsvc@gmail.com
www.dstimeservice.com


Mid West


Universal Watch Repair
555 South Old Woodward Avenue
Birmingham, MI 48009
(248)723-5550
http://www.universalwatch.net/


Fine Swiss Watch Repair
Owner: Kent Mikolite
55 E Washington St, Ste 736
(between Wabash Ave & Dearborn St)
Chicago, IL 60602
(312) 658-0602

Central

Bob Ridley , CW21, member AWCI
http://www.watchmakers.com/
Email - bobridley@watchmakers.com
(817) 276-1400 - Phone
(817) 275-2466 - Fax


Manuel Chamosa, CMW, member AWCI
Chamosa Watch Repair (Owner worked for 14 years at the Dallas RSC)
14785 Preston Road # 150
Dallas, TX 75254-7886
(972)404-9177



Canada
************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************

Rolex Canada Ltd.
Rolex Building
50 St. Clair Avenue West
Toronto, Ontario
M4V 3B7
416-968-1100

Damiani Jewllers
15 Jevlan Dr.
Woodbridge, Ont.
905-850-4653

Chonger
Authorized Rolex Service Center
Location is at HWY 400 and #7
Ont.





Australia
************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************
Sydney

RSC Sydney
Level 39, Tower Building, Australia Square,
264 George Street Sydney 2000.
New South Wales Australia. Tel: +61 2 9251 8988

MAX SCHWEIZER
SWISS WATCH SERVICE
Suite 313
375 George Street Sydney
Phone 9290 1469

CARL PARKER
PARKER TIME
Shop 1,
32 ferry Street,
Hunters Hill.
Phone 9816 1401

Expert Watch Repair
Suite 306, Level 3. 250 Pitt Street, Sydney, NSW 2000
p: (02) 9261 2229 f: (02) 9283 3405
http://www.watchrepair.com.au


Melbourne

RSC Melbourne
70 Collins Street Melbourne 3000.
Victoria Australia. Tel: +61 3 9654 3988.


Ferntree Gully Watch and Clock
117-119 Station Street, Ferntree Gully VIC 3156
PH: +61 3 9758 7740
http://http://www.ftgwatch.com.au/
Ask For Phil Gore

Canterbury Clocks & Watches
209 Canterbury Road, Canterbury VIC 3126
PH: +61 3 9830 1370
http://http://www.canterburycw.com.au/watches.html
Ask For Rory Macdonald



UK
************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************

Steve Hale
Watch Restoration
33 St. George St.
London
W1S 2FL

Tel: 00 44 207 495 3439

http://www.watchrestoration.co.uk


William Rice
Woodmansey
Beverley
Hull
East Yorkshire

Tel: 00 44 1482 873425

http://www.williamricewatches.com



Sweden
************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************

Kristoffer Polblad
Infinitum Jewelry & Watches
Kungsgatan 5
411 19 Gothenburg
Independent but Rolex certified.
Specialised in vintage Rolex.

http://infinitumsmycken.se/





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Rikki

Question @rolexsport: What is the difference between cmw21 and cw21?
Answer @Rikki:A CW is Certified Watchmaker and a CMW is a Certified Master Watchmaker. Certifications have been around for a long time this is the newest. Those that had a previous CMW were semi grandfathered in and only had to take 2 parts of the test I took because their CMW from before was more complicated. The AWCI hasn't as of yet put together a completely new CMW21, but they are working on it and as soon as it is ready I will test for that as well, of course after more classes and study. Also to keep your CW or CMW21 you have to take continueing ed courses and accrue between 5 and 7 credits to keep your license current every 5 years. Pretty much like doctors nurses opticians and so forth. Hope that clears it up a bit. Rikki

Question @cruvon: What are the pre requisites to take it, for example number of years experience, etc.? Also would be interesting to know what the different subjects the exam covers. Also what's the duration of the Certified Master Watchmaker exam?
Answer @Rikki: The 5 disciplines are 4 hour essay written test, 7750 Chronograph, eta automatic, eta quartz, and lathe work cut out a balance fit new one poise and properly center hairspring and oil. The only timed part is the written you have 3 1/2 days to complete the rest. They can induce up to 100 errors in the watches for you to diagnose and repair as well as clean oil adjust and case up. There is no CMW 21 test as of yet just 2 parts of the full test written and the chronograph and I believe you get 2 days to complete. You have to have 3 to 5 years experience to take the test. People coming out of wostep taking the test pass rate is slightly higher maybe 45 percent. So much has changed in the last 5 years alone materials oils quantities that you really have to take the prerequsite courses in order to pass the test. That's about all I got. Best thing I have done for myself and my business. Rikki


Question @Cavediver: Hi RIk, Are there any restrictions on how a watchmaker advertises the certifications? For example, can a watchmaker that is certified cw21 or cmw21 have a staff of non certified watchmakers that do the majority of the services while the certified watchmaker mostly does the management part of the business? I figure that is how Rolex operates.
Thanks
Answer @Rikki: I believe the Rolex service center in Dallas has approximately 40 or so certified watchmakers and about 60 or so watch techs who do most of the grunt work and the certified guys do the final adjusting. I do everything soup to nuts. I believe that Rolex requires anyone who does mechanical work as an Independant be certified not so sure about detailing and case work. My actual title is Rik Dietel CW21 and can use my certification as I see fit for advertising or whatever. There are many stores or workshops where the owner is not even a watchmaker and subs the work out like most of the jewelry stores on the planet. Some of the subs are certified some are not it's up to the consumer to ask and because certifications started to be swept under the rug in the early 80's so jewelry stores didn't have to pay a watchmaker to change batteries lobbyied by the big jewelry store chains education for watchmakers went down the tubes. Now that more mechanical high grade watches are being produced than at anytime in history the need for qualified watchmakers is needed more than ever. If any of you out there have a genuine interest in becoming a watchmaker there's no better time, the amount of work out there is generational,and I mean really generational. Okay enough of the soapbox you'all have a nice evenning. Rikki


Question @cruvon: are there any certifications that especially cater to vintage watches and their restoration (do any of the above mentioned certifications include that?), that would be the icing to the cake since though you'll know how to, many watchmakers out there have no clue about how a vintage watch needs to be handled!
Answer @Rikki: That all comes with experience and trial and error hopefully more trial than error hehe. You see vintage to me and Bob are the watches we cut our teeth on. We both have serviced more vintage than probably the next 20 guys put together just because we have been around longer. We lost a local watchmaker and friend some months back and he was working full days at 84 years old imagine what he has seen and the advancement and changes in technolgy. I believe Wostep in switzerland has a highend vintage course where they give you 10 projects to complete in 9 months it's pretty intense you're making parts drawing them out lots of machining work.

Barbara/Bob Ridley

"In light of industry developments we..now require that all spare parts accounts maintain a membership in the American Watchmakers - Clockmakers Institute (AWCI)....AWCI is currently the only resource for obtaining the new industry-supported Watchmaker Certification, which will become mandatory for all existing Rolex spare parts accounts within the next three years."

Since January 2011, AWCI certification is required in order to be eligible for a spare parts accounts. Further requirements exist, involving on-site inspection and equipment specifications. Watchmakers must maintain premium qualifications and shop standards in order to be eligible for a spare parts account. Without this account, a watchmaker cannot purchase genuine Rolex parts directly from Rolex.

It is our understanding (in agreement with Rik) that an independent watchmaker with a Rolex account must have approval by Rolex (verified certifications) in order to perform mechanical services to a Rolex watch.


Question @cruvon: are there any certifications that especially cater to vintage watches and their restoration (do any of the above mentioned certifications include that?), that would be the icing to the cake since though you'll know how to, many watchmakers out there have no clue about how a vintage watch needs to be handled!
Answer @Barbara/Bob: Bob's perspective is that "most U.S. watchmaker curriculum focuses on current/modern watches (expected within a market-driven industry). This benefits vintage repair, given thoughtful and well-considered application of some newer techniques. Overall, though, vintage repair/restoration is as unique a niche as vintage collecting - both require passion for the watches, patient acquisition of the knowledge, and pursuit of the elusive. "





DISCLAIMER: While this list serves to collate all vintage watch repairers forumers have possibly dealt with (from fellow forumers comments in the various threads) in one place, it in no way is a measure of the quality/originality of the work they might perform. Please conduct your own due diligence before you send in your beloved watch in for repair by asking questions on the forum, posting pictures, getting references, etc. Also please notify us of any concerns and if the forumers agree I can take them off this list.
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Does anyone know if Manuel Chamosa retired? I cannot locate him from American Watchmaker Clockmaker Institute's website.
https://members.awci.com/AWCIWEB/AWC...earchResults=1
Manuel Chamosa, CMW, member AWCI
Chamosa Watch Repair (Owner worked for 14 years at the Dallas RSC)
14785 Preston Road # 150
Dallas, TX 75254-7886
(972)404-9177
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Bump for more countries and repairers. No changes to this list, just reposting to be at end of thread. As always please ensure you read this disclaimer before choosing to send your prized vintages to your watchmaker of choice!



DISCLAIMER: While this list serves to collate all vintage watch repairers forumers have possibly dealt with (from fellow forumers comments in the various threads) in one place, it in no way is a measure of the quality/originality of the work they might perform. Please conduct your own due diligence before you send in your beloved watch in for repair by asking questions on the forum, posting pictures, getting references, etc. Also please notify us of any concerns and if the forumers agree I can take them off this list.


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Global List of Vintage Rolex Servicing centres

************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************
Vintage repair and restoration is as unique a niche as vintage collecting - both require passion for the watches, patient acquisition of the knowledge, and pursuit of the elusive..Bob Ridley


USA
************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************

East



Ernest Tope CMW21
http://watchrestoration.com/Experience.htm
Watch Service - service@watchrestoration.com
(813) 802-4884
Masterpiece Watch Restoration LLC
PO Box 678
Mango, Fl 33550-0678



Rik E. Dietel CW21, member AWCI
http://timecareinc.com/
rikki.234@hotmail.com
727-215-8870
Time Care Inc.
P.O.Box 7489
Seminole, Florida. 33775

watchrepair.net
1499 Palmetto Park Rd.
Boca Raton, FL 33486
(888)876-9282
(561)368-1211
Jeff@watchrepair.net



Dominique Wieland
PO Box 403
616 East Savidge Street
Spring Lake, MI 49456
(800) 237-6398
http://dominiquewieland.com



West


RSC
Contact: Giovanni
210 Post Street, Suite 704-705
San Francisco, CA 94108
(415) 982-9830



Four Crowns
Contact: Shant Der Boghosian *Owned by former Rolex of Beverly Hills employees
608 South Hill Street
Suite 1001 (10th Floor)
Los Angeles, CA 90014
213-488-3381 office



Dalton Toledo, Alex Kohut
ABC Watchwerks
635 S. Hill St., Suite 807
Los Angeles, CA 90014
Tel (213) 489-1816


Tom Doan, CW21
D's TIME SERVICE
861 Sixth Ave #219 San Diego, CA 92101
Tel. (619) 696-9464 // dstsvc@gmail.com
www.dstimeservice.com


Mid West


Universal Watch Repair
555 South Old Woodward Avenue
Birmingham, MI 48009
(248)723-5550
http://www.universalwatch.net/


Fine Swiss Watch Repair
Owner: Kent Mikolite
55 E Washington St, Ste 736
(between Wabash Ave & Dearborn St)
Chicago, IL 60602
(312) 658-0602

Central

Bob Ridley , CW21, member AWCI
http://www.watchmakers.com/
Email - bobridley@watchmakers.com
(817) 276-1400 - Phone
(817) 275-2466 - Fax


Manuel Chamosa, CMW, member AWCI
Chamosa Watch Repair (Owner worked for 14 years at the Dallas RSC)
14785 Preston Road # 150
Dallas, TX 75254-7886
(972)404-9177



Canada
************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************

Rolex Canada Ltd.
Rolex Building
50 St. Clair Avenue West
Toronto, Ontario
M4V 3B7
416-968-1100

Damiani Jewllers
15 Jevlan Dr.
Woodbridge, Ont.
905-850-4653

Chonger
Authorized Rolex Service Center
Location is at HWY 400 and #7
Ont.





Australia
************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************
Sydney

RSC Sydney
Level 39, Tower Building, Australia Square,
264 George Street Sydney 2000.
New South Wales Australia. Tel: +61 2 9251 8988

MAX SCHWEIZER
SWISS WATCH SERVICE
Suite 313
375 George Street Sydney
Phone 9290 1469

CARL PARKER
PARKER TIME
Shop 1,
32 ferry Street,
Hunters Hill.
Phone 9816 1401

Expert Watch Repair
Suite 306, Level 3. 250 Pitt Street, Sydney, NSW 2000
p: (02) 9261 2229 f: (02) 9283 3405
http://www.watchrepair.com.au


Melbourne

RSC Melbourne
70 Collins Street Melbourne 3000.
Victoria Australia. Tel: +61 3 9654 3988.


Ferntree Gully Watch and Clock
117-119 Station Street, Ferntree Gully VIC 3156
PH: +61 3 9758 7740
http://http://www.ftgwatch.com.au/
Ask For Phil Gore

Canterbury Clocks & Watches
209 Canterbury Road, Canterbury VIC 3126
PH: +61 3 9830 1370
http://http://www.canterburycw.com.au/watches.html
Ask For Rory Macdonald



UK
************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************

Steve Hale
Watch Restoration
33 St. George St.
London
W1S 2FL

Tel: 00 44 207 495 3439

http://www.watchrestoration.co.uk


William Rice
Woodmansey
Beverley
Hull
East Yorkshire

Tel: 00 44 1482 873425

http://www.williamricewatches.com



Sweden
************************************************** ************************************************** ************************************************

Kristoffer Polblad
Infinitum Jewelry & Watches
Kungsgatan 5
411 19 Gothenburg
Independent but Rolex certified.
Specialised in vintage Rolex.

http://infinitumsmycken.se/





Is your watchmaker certified?

Certification FAQ/Info, listed by contributor

Rikki

Question @rolexsport: What is the difference between cmw21 and cw21?
Answer @Rikki:A CW is Certified Watchmaker and a CMW is a Certified Master Watchmaker. Certifications have been around for a long time this is the newest. Those that had a previous CMW were semi grandfathered in and only had to take 2 parts of the test I took because their CMW from before was more complicated. The AWCI hasn't as of yet put together a completely new CMW21, but they are working on it and as soon as it is ready I will test for that as well, of course after more classes and study. Also to keep your CW or CMW21 you have to take continueing ed courses and accrue between 5 and 7 credits to keep your license current every 5 years. Pretty much like doctors nurses opticians and so forth. Hope that clears it up a bit. Rikki

Question @cruvon: What are the pre requisites to take it, for example number of years experience, etc.? Also would be interesting to know what the different subjects the exam covers. Also what's the duration of the Certified Master Watchmaker exam?
Answer @Rikki: The 5 disciplines are 4 hour essay written test, 7750 Chronograph, eta automatic, eta quartz, and lathe work cut out a balance fit new one poise and properly center hairspring and oil. The only timed part is the written you have 3 1/2 days to complete the rest. They can induce up to 100 errors in the watches for you to diagnose and repair as well as clean oil adjust and case up. There is no CMW 21 test as of yet just 2 parts of the full test written and the chronograph and I believe you get 2 days to complete. You have to have 3 to 5 years experience to take the test. People coming out of wostep taking the test pass rate is slightly higher maybe 45 percent. So much has changed in the last 5 years alone materials oils quantities that you really have to take the prerequsite courses in order to pass the test. That's about all I got. Best thing I have done for myself and my business. Rikki


Question @Cavediver: Hi RIk, Are there any restrictions on how a watchmaker advertises the certifications? For example, can a watchmaker that is certified cw21 or cmw21 have a staff of non certified watchmakers that do the majority of the services while the certified watchmaker mostly does the management part of the business? I figure that is how Rolex operates.
Thanks
Answer @Rikki: I believe the Rolex service center in Dallas has approximately 40 or so certified watchmakers and about 60 or so watch techs who do most of the grunt work and the certified guys do the final adjusting. I do everything soup to nuts. I believe that Rolex requires anyone who does mechanical work as an Independant be certified not so sure about detailing and case work. My actual title is Rik Dietel CW21 and can use my certification as I see fit for advertising or whatever. There are many stores or workshops where the owner is not even a watchmaker and subs the work out like most of the jewelry stores on the planet. Some of the subs are certified some are not it's up to the consumer to ask and because certifications started to be swept under the rug in the early 80's so jewelry stores didn't have to pay a watchmaker to change batteries lobbyied by the big jewelry store chains education for watchmakers went down the tubes. Now that more mechanical high grade watches are being produced than at anytime in history the need for qualified watchmakers is needed more than ever. If any of you out there have a genuine interest in becoming a watchmaker there's no better time, the amount of work out there is generational,and I mean really generational. Okay enough of the soapbox you'all have a nice evenning. Rikki


Question @cruvon: are there any certifications that especially cater to vintage watches and their restoration (do any of the above mentioned certifications include that?), that would be the icing to the cake since though you'll know how to, many watchmakers out there have no clue about how a vintage watch needs to be handled!
Answer @Rikki: That all comes with experience and trial and error hopefully more trial than error hehe. You see vintage to me and Bob are the watches we cut our teeth on. We both have serviced more vintage than probably the next 20 guys put together just because we have been around longer. We lost a local watchmaker and friend some months back and he was working full days at 84 years old imagine what he has seen and the advancement and changes in technolgy. I believe Wostep in switzerland has a highend vintage course where they give you 10 projects to complete in 9 months it's pretty intense you're making parts drawing them out lots of machining work.

Barbara/Bob Ridley

"In light of industry developments we..now require that all spare parts accounts maintain a membership in the American Watchmakers - Clockmakers Institute (AWCI)....AWCI is currently the only resource for obtaining the new industry-supported Watchmaker Certification, which will become mandatory for all existing Rolex spare parts accounts within the next three years."

Since January 2011, AWCI certification is required in order to be eligible for a spare parts accounts. Further requirements exist, involving on-site inspection and equipment specifications. Watchmakers must maintain premium qualifications and shop standards in order to be eligible for a spare parts account. Without this account, a watchmaker cannot purchase genuine Rolex parts directly from Rolex.

It is our understanding (in agreement with Rik) that an independent watchmaker with a Rolex account must have approval by Rolex (verified certifications) in order to perform mechanical services to a Rolex watch.


Question @cruvon: are there any certifications that especially cater to vintage watches and their restoration (do any of the above mentioned certifications include that?), that would be the icing to the cake since though you'll know how to, many watchmakers out there have no clue about how a vintage watch needs to be handled!
Answer @Barbara/Bob: Bob's perspective is that "most U.S. watchmaker curriculum focuses on current/modern watches (expected within a market-driven industry). This benefits vintage repair, given thoughtful and well-considered application of some newer techniques. Overall, though, vintage repair/restoration is as unique a niche as vintage collecting - both require passion for the watches, patient acquisition of the knowledge, and pursuit of the elusive. "





DISCLAIMER: While this list serves to collate all vintage watch repairers forumers have possibly dealt with (from fellow forumers comments in the various threads) in one place, it in no way is a measure of the quality/originality of the work they might perform. Please conduct your own due diligence before you send in your beloved watch in for repair by asking questions on the forum, posting pictures, getting references, etc. Also please notify us of any concerns and if the forumers agree I can take them off this list.
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Hello guys,

Awesome list, thank you for compiling it!!!
But I was wondering if someone had a reference in Montréal as I don't wanna have to go all the way to Ontario?

If some of you are looking for a great guy in Paris, France, you should reach out to my friend Antoine de Macedo.
He is an amazing guy adm-horloger(dot)com as I'm not allowed to post links yet
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Hi, just editing the list as Dalton informed he's no longer at ABC. All rest the same. Do let me know if there are any updates to this list as hasn't been updated in quite a while. Bump for more countries and repairers.

PS: As always please ensure you read this disclaimer before choosing to send your prized vintages to your watchmaker of choice!



DISCLAIMER: While this list serves to collate all vintage watch repairers forumers have possibly dealt with (from fellow forumers comments in the various threads) in one place, it in no way is a measure of the quality/originality of the work they might perform. Please conduct your own due diligence before you send in your beloved watch in for repair by asking questions on the forum, posting pictures, getting references, etc. Also please notify us of any concerns and if the forumers agree I can take them off this list.


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Global List of Vintage Rolex Servicing centres

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Vintage repair and restoration is as unique a niche as vintage collecting - both require passion for the watches, patient acquisition of the knowledge, and pursuit of the elusive..Bob Ridley


USA
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East



Ernest Tope CMW21
http://watchrestoration.com/Experience.htm
Watch Service - service@watchrestoration.com
(813) 802-4884
Masterpiece Watch Restoration LLC
PO Box 678
Mango, Fl 33550-0678



Rik E. Dietel CW21, member AWCI
http://timecareinc.com/
rikki.234@hotmail.com
727-215-8870
Time Care Inc.
P.O.Box 7489
Seminole, Florida. 33775

watchrepair.net
1499 Palmetto Park Rd.
Boca Raton, FL 33486
(888)876-9282
(561)368-1211
Jeff@watchrepair.net



Dominique Wieland
PO Box 403
616 East Savidge Street
Spring Lake, MI 49456
(800) 237-6398
http://dominiquewieland.com



West


RSC
Contact: Giovanni
210 Post Street, Suite 704-705
San Francisco, CA 94108
(415) 982-9830



Four Crowns
Contact: Shant Der Boghosian *Owned by former Rolex of Beverly Hills employees
608 South Hill Street
Suite 1001 (10th Floor)
Los Angeles, CA 90014
213-488-3381 office



Alex Kohut
ABC Watchwerks
635 S. Hill St., Suite 807
Los Angeles, CA 90014
Tel (213) 489-1816


Tom Doan, CW21
D's TIME SERVICE
861 Sixth Ave #219 San Diego, CA 92101
Tel. (619) 696-9464 // dstsvc@gmail.com
www.dstimeservice.com


Mid West


Universal Watch Repair
555 South Old Woodward Avenue
Birmingham, MI 48009
(248)723-5550
http://www.universalwatch.net/


Fine Swiss Watch Repair
Owner: Kent Mikolite
55 E Washington St, Ste 736
(between Wabash Ave & Dearborn St)
Chicago, IL 60602
(312) 658-0602

Central

Bob Ridley , CW21, member AWCI
http://www.watchmakers.com/
Email - bobridley@watchmakers.com
(817) 276-1400 - Phone
(817) 275-2466 - Fax


Manuel Chamosa, CMW, member AWCI
Chamosa Watch Repair (Owner worked for 14 years at the Dallas RSC)
14785 Preston Road # 150
Dallas, TX 75254-7886
(972)404-9177



Canada
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Rolex Canada Ltd.
Rolex Building
50 St. Clair Avenue West
Toronto, Ontario
M4V 3B7
416-968-1100

Damiani Jewllers
15 Jevlan Dr.
Woodbridge, Ont.
905-850-4653

Chonger
Authorized Rolex Service Center
Location is at HWY 400 and #7
Ont.





Australia
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Sydney

RSC Sydney
Level 39, Tower Building, Australia Square,
264 George Street Sydney 2000.
New South Wales Australia. Tel: +61 2 9251 8988

MAX SCHWEIZER
SWISS WATCH SERVICE
Suite 313
375 George Street Sydney
Phone 9290 1469

CARL PARKER
PARKER TIME
Shop 1,
32 ferry Street,
Hunters Hill.
Phone 9816 1401

Expert Watch Repair
Suite 306, Level 3. 250 Pitt Street, Sydney, NSW 2000
p: (02) 9261 2229 f: (02) 9283 3405
http://www.watchrepair.com.au


Melbourne

RSC Melbourne
70 Collins Street Melbourne 3000.
Victoria Australia. Tel: +61 3 9654 3988.


Ferntree Gully Watch and Clock
117-119 Station Street, Ferntree Gully VIC 3156
PH: +61 3 9758 7740
http://http://www.ftgwatch.com.au/
Ask For Phil Gore

Canterbury Clocks & Watches
209 Canterbury Road, Canterbury VIC 3126
PH: +61 3 9830 1370
http://http://www.canterburycw.com.au/watches.html
Ask For Rory Macdonald



UK
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Steve Hale
Watch Restoration
33 St. George St.
London
W1S 2FL

Tel: 00 44 207 495 3439

http://www.watchrestoration.co.uk


William Rice
Woodmansey
Beverley
Hull
East Yorkshire

Tel: 00 44 1482 873425

http://www.williamricewatches.com



Sweden
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Kristoffer Polblad
Infinitum Jewelry & Watches
Kungsgatan 5
411 19 Gothenburg
Independent but Rolex certified.
Specialised in vintage Rolex.

http://infinitumsmycken.se/





Is your watchmaker certified?

Certification FAQ/Info, listed by contributor

Rikki

Question @rolexsport: What is the difference between cmw21 and cw21?
Answer @Rikki:A CW is Certified Watchmaker and a CMW is a Certified Master Watchmaker. Certifications have been around for a long time this is the newest. Those that had a previous CMW were semi grandfathered in and only had to take 2 parts of the test I took because their CMW from before was more complicated. The AWCI hasn't as of yet put together a completely new CMW21, but they are working on it and as soon as it is ready I will test for that as well, of course after more classes and study. Also to keep your CW or CMW21 you have to take continueing ed courses and accrue between 5 and 7 credits to keep your license current every 5 years. Pretty much like doctors nurses opticians and so forth. Hope that clears it up a bit. Rikki

Question @cruvon: What are the pre requisites to take it, for example number of years experience, etc.? Also would be interesting to know what the different subjects the exam covers. Also what's the duration of the Certified Master Watchmaker exam?
Answer @Rikki: The 5 disciplines are 4 hour essay written test, 7750 Chronograph, eta automatic, eta quartz, and lathe work cut out a balance fit new one poise and properly center hairspring and oil. The only timed part is the written you have 3 1/2 days to complete the rest. They can induce up to 100 errors in the watches for you to diagnose and repair as well as clean oil adjust and case up. There is no CMW 21 test as of yet just 2 parts of the full test written and the chronograph and I believe you get 2 days to complete. You have to have 3 to 5 years experience to take the test. People coming out of wostep taking the test pass rate is slightly higher maybe 45 percent. So much has changed in the last 5 years alone materials oils quantities that you really have to take the prerequsite courses in order to pass the test. That's about all I got. Best thing I have done for myself and my business. Rikki


Question @Cavediver: Hi RIk, Are there any restrictions on how a watchmaker advertises the certifications? For example, can a watchmaker that is certified cw21 or cmw21 have a staff of non certified watchmakers that do the majority of the services while the certified watchmaker mostly does the management part of the business? I figure that is how Rolex operates.
Thanks
Answer @Rikki: I believe the Rolex service center in Dallas has approximately 40 or so certified watchmakers and about 60 or so watch techs who do most of the grunt work and the certified guys do the final adjusting. I do everything soup to nuts. I believe that Rolex requires anyone who does mechanical work as an Independant be certified not so sure about detailing and case work. My actual title is Rik Dietel CW21 and can use my certification as I see fit for advertising or whatever. There are many stores or workshops where the owner is not even a watchmaker and subs the work out like most of the jewelry stores on the planet. Some of the subs are certified some are not it's up to the consumer to ask and because certifications started to be swept under the rug in the early 80's so jewelry stores didn't have to pay a watchmaker to change batteries lobbyied by the big jewelry store chains education for watchmakers went down the tubes. Now that more mechanical high grade watches are being produced than at anytime in history the need for qualified watchmakers is needed more than ever. If any of you out there have a genuine interest in becoming a watchmaker there's no better time, the amount of work out there is generational,and I mean really generational. Okay enough of the soapbox you'all have a nice evenning. Rikki


Question @cruvon: are there any certifications that especially cater to vintage watches and their restoration (do any of the above mentioned certifications include that?), that would be the icing to the cake since though you'll know how to, many watchmakers out there have no clue about how a vintage watch needs to be handled!
Answer @Rikki: That all comes with experience and trial and error hopefully more trial than error hehe. You see vintage to me and Bob are the watches we cut our teeth on. We both have serviced more vintage than probably the next 20 guys put together just because we have been around longer. We lost a local watchmaker and friend some months back and he was working full days at 84 years old imagine what he has seen and the advancement and changes in technolgy. I believe Wostep in switzerland has a highend vintage course where they give you 10 projects to complete in 9 months it's pretty intense you're making parts drawing them out lots of machining work.

Barbara/Bob Ridley

"In light of industry developments we..now require that all spare parts accounts maintain a membership in the American Watchmakers - Clockmakers Institute (AWCI)....AWCI is currently the only resource for obtaining the new industry-supported Watchmaker Certification, which will become mandatory for all existing Rolex spare parts accounts within the next three years."

Since January 2011, AWCI certification is required in order to be eligible for a spare parts accounts. Further requirements exist, involving on-site inspection and equipment specifications. Watchmakers must maintain premium qualifications and shop standards in order to be eligible for a spare parts account. Without this account, a watchmaker cannot purchase genuine Rolex parts directly from Rolex.

It is our understanding (in agreement with Rik) that an independent watchmaker with a Rolex account must have approval by Rolex (verified certifications) in order to perform mechanical services to a Rolex watch.


Question @cruvon: are there any certifications that especially cater to vintage watches and their restoration (do any of the above mentioned certifications include that?), that would be the icing to the cake since though you'll know how to, many watchmakers out there have no clue about how a vintage watch needs to be handled!
Answer @Barbara/Bob: Bob's perspective is that "most U.S. watchmaker curriculum focuses on current/modern watches (expected within a market-driven industry). This benefits vintage repair, given thoughtful and well-considered application of some newer techniques. Overall, though, vintage repair/restoration is as unique a niche as vintage collecting - both require passion for the watches, patient acquisition of the knowledge, and pursuit of the elusive. "





DISCLAIMER: While this list serves to collate all vintage watch repairers forumers have possibly dealt with (from fellow forumers comments in the various threads) in one place, it in no way is a measure of the quality/originality of the work they might perform. Please conduct your own due diligence before you send in your beloved watch in for repair by asking questions on the forum, posting pictures, getting references, etc. Also please notify us of any concerns and if the forumers agree I can take them off this list.
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Old 10 December 2018, 04:49 AM   #118
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210 Post Street, Suite 704-705
San Francisco, CA 94108
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ABC Watchworks
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Dominique Wieland hasn't been in operation for awhile. Too bad because there's no other recommended watchmaker around our area.
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