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View Poll Results: GMT 16710 with 3186 Movement. Worth it, Yes or No.
Yes 132 35.68%
No 203 54.86%
I'm not sure. 35 9.46%
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Old 5 April 2016, 05:27 AM   #31
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Thanks Travis.
Would have to agree - don't quite get why anyone would pay so much when the 3185 is so good to start off with?
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Old 5 April 2016, 05:47 AM   #32
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I rather get something else with that kind of money.
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Old 5 April 2016, 07:11 AM   #33
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Old 5 April 2016, 07:37 AM   #34
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Here's my 16710 with 3186 and sticky dial. I bought it new in 2007 and only discover how special it was several years later. I really like it, but I dont think I would pay $20000 for it if i was buying it today. However, I do think itīs worth some premium over the "regular" models. After all, isn't different dial and font changes that make prices higher in the vintage market??

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Old 5 April 2016, 07:42 AM   #35
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Simply solution is get an explorer 2 with the 3186. Plenty more of them out there and a bargain compared to the GMT 😃.


Why?

Do they keep better time? 😬
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Old 5 April 2016, 07:47 AM   #36
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The prices have held on 3186 for a number of years, and probably no one can argue it was a short production run and very few are ever offered for sale, and high demand for it.

Economics Would seem to point prices will hold or continue gaining.
I'm lucky I got mine m serial 3186 when I did!
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Old 5 April 2016, 07:59 AM   #37
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Here's my 16710 with 3186 and sticky dial. I bought it new in 2007 and only discover how special it was several years later. I really like it, but I dont think I would pay $20000 for it if i was buying it today. However, I do think itīs worth some premium over the "regular" models. After all, isn't different dial and font changes that make prices higher in the vintage market??

Very nice and yes that's correct. Small variations in the vintage market with limited supply will command a much higher price tag.
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Old 5 April 2016, 08:00 AM   #38
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I wouldn't. But I have interest in a "collector watch". They look the same, have basically the same movement. I'd rather save my money considering there's almost zero material difference. That being said, I understand the folks who are interested in the collector side of it.


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Old 5 April 2016, 08:02 AM   #39
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The prices have held on 3186 for a number of years, and probably no one can argue it was a short production run and very few are ever offered for sale, and high demand for it.

Economics Would seem to point prices will hold or continue gaining.
I'm lucky I got mine m serial 3186 when I did!
Pics or it didn't happen.
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Old 5 April 2016, 08:06 AM   #40
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Pics or it didn't happen.


I traded down a blnr
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Old 5 April 2016, 08:07 AM   #41
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Mine, M serie

With all accessories ...
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I have a late z series stick dial Pepsi, never been worn.

I bought it not knowing whether it's a 3185 or 3186 movement and I've still never had the back off to find out which it is, but I couldn't care less.

If anything, I would steer clear of paying a premium for something as daft as a stick dial print or the 3186 movement on this watch, unless of course, you want to pay me $20k for mine, then it's all yours!

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Old 5 April 2016, 10:28 AM   #43
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I traded down a blnr
Good move. You can always add it down the road if you really wanted to.
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Old 5 April 2016, 01:11 PM   #44
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Not if you're going to wear it.

Maybe if you're looking for a safe queen investment piece. It is considered to be better than the 3185, so there will always be wealthy people chasing it and driving the price up. There are plenty of people out there who don't care if something costs $5K or $20K. Just as long as it's "the best."
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Old 5 April 2016, 07:34 PM   #45
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Yes I saw that. Now that's a real crazy number. I don't think anyone in their right mind would pay that amount. At least not for awhile anyways.
Agreed it's crazy but the value of it is what someone is willing to pay. There are people that will pay that and more someday that will pay even more when the price rises.

It is what it is.
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I don't care I just wear my 3185 daily.

I have worn Rolex for 30 years now and it's not because of "WHAT IS IT WORTH"
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Old 5 April 2016, 11:34 PM   #47
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i don't care i just wear my 3185 daily.

I have worn rolex for 30 years now and it's not because of "what is it worth"


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There is no need to take the case back of in order to determine what movement you have...scroll down...
https://www.minus4plus6.com/paracromblu16710.php

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I have a late z series stick dial Pepsi, never been worn.

I bought it not knowing whether it's a 3185 or 3186 movement and I've still never had the back off to find out which it is, but I couldn't care less.

If anything, I would steer clear of paying a premium for something as daft as a stick dial print or the 3186 movement on this watch, unless of course, you want to pay me $20k for mine, then it's all yours!

Here's a pic of mine...
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Old 6 April 2016, 03:27 AM   #49
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I'd got with the 3175 and avoid the whole conundrum.

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I'd got with the 3175 and avoid the whole conumdrum.
A 16710 with a 3175 .... if I was you I would try re-contact the seller with my lawyers ...
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A 16710 with a 3175 .... if I was you I would try re-contact the seller with my lawyers ...
Who said it was a 16710? Must be voices in your head!!!!
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Who said it was a 16710? Must be voices in your head!!!!
You shoud (re)read the title of this post ...
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Old 6 April 2016, 06:38 AM   #53
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A 16710 with a 3175 .... if I was you I would try re-contact the seller with my lawyers ...
Now that's funny.
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Old 6 April 2016, 07:16 AM   #54
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Here is the earliest solid SOLD post I could find when the watch was roughly a year or two old, it listed then right here on TRF.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...ght=16710+3186

Current prices here on TRF are between 12k-20k when even avaliable. Show me a 16710 with a 3185 that has basically doubled/tripled in value? "Nay-Sayers" whether it's "hype" or not, the numbers don't lie, and you can't deny there is a collectible market for these watches! Read the classifieds right here on TRF. They sell quicker than 16710/3185s! For the last 8 years "collectors" have been saying it's all "hype", and they continue to get left behind, watching these watches sky-rocket in price....Now if I could only get my stock jock to triple my money
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Here is the earliest solid SOLD post I could find when the watch was roughly a year or two old, it listed then right here on TRF.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...ght=16710+3186

Current prices here on TRF are between 12k-20k when even avaliable. Show me a 16710 with a 3185 that has basically doubled/tripled in value? "Nay-Sayers" whether it's "hype" or not, the numbers don't lie, and you can't deny there is a collectible market for these watches! Read the classifieds right here on TRF. They sell quicker than 16710/3185s! For the last 8 years "collectors" have been saying it's all "hype", and they continue to get left behind, watching these watches sky-rocket in price....Now if I could only get my stock jock to triple my money
I think the majority of the 3186's don't even make it to the open market. Similar to a waiting list at the AD, there are waiting lists with grey market dealers so as soon as they get them, they are already spoken for. The ones that do, and from what I can see, are normally either in poor shape or without papers, which most people don't want. In life there will always be nay sayers and non believers and that's fine. If they are right about the hype they will say, 'I told you so," and if they are wrong, you won't here from them. Either way, it doesn't really matter. Buy what makes you happy and if it makes you a bit of extra money down the road, it's a bonus. Personally I feel they are worth the extra premium providing it's not a crazy amount. I'm into vintage as well so I see what some of the text variations sell for, especially when they are limited.
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Here is the earliest solid SOLD post I could find when the watch was roughly a year or two old, it listed then right here on TRF.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...ght=16710+3186

Current prices here on TRF are between 12k-20k when even avaliable. Show me a 16710 with a 3185 that has basically doubled/tripled in value? "Nay-Sayers" whether it's "hype" or not, the numbers don't lie, and you can't deny there is a collectible market for these watches! Read the classifieds right here on TRF. They sell quicker than 16710/3185s! For the last 8 years "collectors" have been saying it's all "hype", and they continue to get left behind, watching these watches sky-rocket in price....Now if I could only get my stock jock to triple my money
The one going for 20k has been listed here for about six weeks, and I imagine it will be here for a very long time at that price.
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Old 6 April 2016, 08:29 AM   #57
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Bad enough to pay a premium for a little touch of red in a sub or sd, but at least it's visible to the naked eye. And yes, I get the wallet out for that little extra splash of red.
Now on the stick dial, you have to get the loop out!!!
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I respect the movement...but wouldn't pay a premium to get it.
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