Baselworld 2017 leaks/rumours

[dr35mm]

This is what I've been waiting for a while!

[handsfull]

My 0.02: Doubt the DJ prediction. Love the SD. If the HF movement is correct- I'm amped! The DSSD has run its course- it makes sense.

[behardt]

i think we'll maybe see:

1. continuing expansion of datejust 41 lines
2. either a TT or full RG sub or GMT (or platty sub or GMT?)
3. possibly a daytonaC TT (RG/SS or YG/SS) or full RG
4. might expand Cellini line to try to grab some of the recent Nautilus resurgence? (far fetched I know and low chance of success)

40mm Datejust is nonsensical now and I seriously doubt they'll expand on the YM line since there was already a lot of focus.

New guy could be a wildcard that makes it a cool year. He's had more time to influence on this release. Hopefully, they'll add something really neat to one of their core lines. Swiss watch sales are now declining for the first time in many years, so maybe they announce something completely new to add sales from current Rolex WIS or something to attract new Rolex fans from other brands. I doubt they can do anything (or should) to draw the new smart watch crowd that is gaining steam and changing overall watch sales...

My 2 cents.

[Afghanvet]

Originally Posted by GB-man

I understand but I'm pretty sure he predicted that SS YM last year and also the deep blue thing seems to be an annual prediction. Wasn't the two tone ceramic Daytona predicted by him a few years ago?

I don't believe the dssd blue will get discontinued and I don't believe the SDc will get blue text to mark the anniversary. He says blue is the new color for anniversary models....since when?

Here it is...

[WJGESQ]

Originally Posted by ap1

No must buys here

A stainless coke would be great.

[capote]

Originally Posted by GB-man

I have to be honest that report is rubbish in my opinion. Basically the same stuff he posted last year. I'd be shocked if anything there came true outside maybe the two tone Daytona.

I agree. Saw all those predictions last years. He also claimed the DSSD would retire.

[Kaedeh]

Wishful thinking but I want to see a SS coke GMT

[GradyPhilpott]

They certainly covered a lot of bases.

I don't see any must-haves for me.

[Psmith]

The D-Blue must surely be the most discontinued watch in history

[Etschell]

those tt daytonas are hideous.

[mikkemus23]

Originally Posted by Etschell

those tt daytonas are hideous.

Unfortunately I agree - the black bezel doesn`t mesh with TT imho.

Nothing there I`d have to have, but a SS Coke would of course have been nice

[mistermann]

Still hoping they make my creation.

[Etschell]

Originally Posted by mikkemus23

Unfortunately I agree - the black bezel doesn`t mesh with TT imho.

Nothing there I`d have to have, but a SS Coke would of course have been nice

ss coke would be a hot seller.

id like to see a platinum submariner.

[brandrea]

An annual calendar DD would be NICE!

[descartes]

If they make that Coke I'm all over it.... And I've only acquired one modern (non-vintage) Rolex in more than a decade... Been waiting for this.

[TheVTCGuy]

Originally Posted by Constantine

The 3235 movement was actually introduced in 2015 with the Pearlmaster which is 39mm. There is no reason why they can't put that movement in a 40mm Datejust.

You're absolutely right, it IS possible for that movement to be dropped in to a 40MM case; at a cost. I am no expert, but there would be retooling costs, maintenance adjustments, and which case will they use? All of this, while possible, comes at a significant cost. You can not convince me the sales of a DJ40 would increase that much over a DJ41 to justify such a cost. Will there ever be a 40DJ? Quite possibly, I hope not because I like the larger size, but definitely possible. NOT this year.

[904VT]

Some of these look to be recycled predictions from last year that didn't happen. I mean if I were to make 20 predictions, I'm pretty sure a few would be true. Just Kidding, kind of, sort of, not really. Just my opinion on the below:

-I don't think we'll see a new Coke SS. If anything that won't be happening until the introduction of Calibre 3286 or 7 and perhaps the discontinuation of the BLNR. IF it were to happen next year then it more likely would be a second WG GMT bi color bezel, replacement of one of the YG models, or if Rolex was really adventurous a new PM model such as RG. This would be unlikely though since it would give more metal offerings than the Submariner. Only the Daytona and Yachtmaster would offer more types of metal models.

-Day Date with Annual Calendar: I think a possibility, but a rather long shot. When Swiss watch sales are down, it would be much smarter to launch a more approachable SS shocker. Plus Calibre 3255 is new to the range, so I'm not sure about a whole series of high end pieces based on another calibre.

-I'm not sure blue is any more of an anniversary model color than green. I find the blue Sea Dweller 4000 highly unlikely. They have Tudor for that and the Smurf and TT versions of the Sub. If anything it would probably be very subtle dial markings or something on that line. Or perhaps it is the first professional model to receive the Calibre 3235

-TT Daytona C's were on the predictions last year. I think a WG C is way more likely. The TT C's would be too close to SS and erode their brand goodwill from the whole supply demand perspective of what they're trying to accomplish with the SS model. They want to drive sales further up the line. A TT with Ceramic would come in close to $19.5k USD IMO. Bridges the gap, but PM pricing territory. If they did offer this IMO it would more likely be a TT RG model with Ceramic. Maybe a few dials that are more dressy/jewelry like as well vs the utilitarian bland dials.

-YM Ceramic: Prediction from last year that didn't happen. No way they erode Ceramic Sub and GMT sales with this. The only rationale for the up charge on the SS YM was the PM Bezel. This would throw everything out of whack and doesn't make much sense. Perhaps a WG version with Ceramic on Oyster Flex is more probable. No way any SS model is ever put on anything but a SS bracelet. Why would Rolex break years upon years of precedent in straps only on PM models.

-Patents/Turnograph: I'm not sure Rolex needs another SS model added to the current line, unless they have tons of unused cases sitting around that they need to move post slow down. The technology may be too advanced to introduce in a SS model and not make sense with pricing. More likely is an additional variation of a current PM sports model.

-DayJust 40: No way Rolex revises the case size a year after introducing the TT models. It makes those current models way too rare if taken off market and/or for a sloppy model line of varying sizes. Not going to happen. Besides what sense would it make for your supposed sportier SS model to be smaller than your supposedly dressier TT models.

-DeepSea: This is the same prediction as last year. Doubt the model is going anywhere. D-Blue dial perhaps, but was that really even in "production" anyway

As a whole not super impressed by this year's predictions. Guess we'll see at Basel

[behardt]

I forgot one, WG sub w/ blue sunburst...

Originally Posted by behardt

i think we'll maybe see:

1. continuing expansion of datejust 41 lines
2. either a TT or full RG sub or GMT (or platty sub or GMT?)
3. possibly a daytonaC TT (RG/SS or YG/SS) or full RG
4. might expand Cellini line to try to grab some of the recent Nautilus resurgence? (far fetched I know and low chance of success)

40mm Datejust is nonsensical now and I seriously doubt they'll expand on the YM line since there was already a lot of focus.

New guy could be a wildcard that makes it a cool year. He's had more time to influence on this release. Hopefully, they'll add something really neat to one of their core lines. Swiss watch sales are now declining for the first time in many years, so maybe they announce something completely new to add sales from current Rolex WIS or something to attract new Rolex fans from other brands. I doubt they can do anything (or should) to draw the new smart watch crowd that is gaining steam and changing overall watch sales...

My 2 cents.

[michael6513]

I'm waiting in line at my local AD to sign up for a Coke SS GMT

[saskmh]

Originally Posted by 904VT

-YM Ceramic: Prediction from last year that didn't happen. No way they erode Ceramic Sub and GMT sales with this. The only rationale for the up charge on the SS YM was the PM Bezel. This would throw everything out of whack and doesn't make much sense. Perhaps a WG version with Ceramic on Oyster Flex is more probable. No way any SS model is ever put on anything but a SS bracelet. Why would Rolex break years upon years of precedent in straps only on PM models.

Interesting thought. Although the black ceramic insert on the stainless YM would look great I agree that it would take the PM status away from the model. The only model in the line that has the ceramic insert is of course the solid gold Rolesium version. Maybe we will see one on a solid WG or platinum version one day.

[Lordofrolex]

How reputable is this site?

Not overly impressed. Personally don't like two tone watches and was hopping they would come out with a YG Ceramic Daytona.

Also i personally think they come out with to many YM 1 variations. I know its popular but i barely see them in the wild.

SS Coke would be a huge seller. Im calling it for a WG model not a SS model.

[WAK4]

If SS coke happens, my order is already in place

['Andy']

Which is good as it means nothing to buy from me.
However Rolex are masters of everything they do actually produce so I'm sure something incedible will be released.

As for this guy's 'predictions' for last year.....who didn't want a new Daytona, hardly a mystic is he. I've been asking the head of Rolex UK for this for 5 years so does this make me a mystic....no it doesn't..!!

Let's just wait till March 2017

[HL65]

Originally Posted by Lordofrolex

How reputable is this site?

Not overly impressed. Personally don't like two tone watches and was hopping they would come out with a YG Ceramic Daytona.

Also i personally think they come out with to many YM 1 variations. I know its popular but i barely see them in the wild.

SS Coke would be a huge seller. Im calling it for a WG model not a SS model.

Philipp Stahl one of most respected and in the know w/ Rolex of anyone in vintage watch and Rolex world. He has predicted Basel releases in the past and nothing surprises me with him. Do a search on him and you can see. He also owns some the rarest and highest worth Rolex's in the world.

[Cru Jones]

If true, wow, to think how much people complain about Panerai mixing and matching the same design elements with no end in sight.... ;-)

[Roll the Lex]

Originally Posted by WAK4

If SS coke happens, my order is already in place

But why was it decided that the Pepsi was in wg and the coke in ss??? It's a mystery to me.

Yeah I might have to get that ss coke?


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[Speed]

Originally Posted by Roll the Lex

But why was it decided that the Pepsi was in wg and the coke in ss??? It's a mystery to me.

Yeah I might have to get that ss coke?


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Maybe the "Blue" / "Red" combo can only pass muster in very limited / small batches...so WG was the way to go.

[LuminousMaximus]

Originally Posted by ferrissteve11

If the SD gets red lettering I'm in trouble...well my wallet is anyway.

Yes i am waiting for this Too

SEA-DWELLER
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[AK797]

The CokeC wasn't there earlier today so maybe Philipp is not that confident in seeing it this time. Just to keep people from getting too expectant.

[JP Chestnut]

Many of these are pretty silly. The pointless 40mm DJ being tops.